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[quote=The Goat;677044]Seriously? Do you watch Landry on the field? Against Atlanta Landry avoided contact almost the entire game. Very early he waited for a player to run out of bounce instead of creating contact (I think it was Turner). L8r he dove to the turf in terror when Turner ran up the gut and Landry had an open field shot. Personally I think that play is the most memorable of Landry's career rather than his getting trucked by Jacobs. He avoided Turner basically the entire game though, as he does whenever he faces a dangerous player.

I mean this stuff is on tape...

And it's another reason why the moving him to SS argument is nonsense. First of all he played a centerfield safety for LSU. He roamed deep in the backfield and picked off a hell of the lot of passes, until his senior year when offensive coordinators just stopped calling any deep passes against LSU's defense. He was a deep FS almost his entire college career. When we drafted him it was to compliment Sean in that we could have two guys roaming back there, not to keep a guy in the box. If Landry is put at SS I PROMISE our defense regresses because it only means more missed tackles and more penalties. As FS Landry rarely sees the RB get that far up-field (because we've got excellent tacklers mostly at LB and SS) but almost every time that happens Landry gives up a TD.[/quote]

I have watched LL just as much as you have. When he played against Dallas and New Orleans he was destroying everything that moved.

The whole team was terrible against Atlanta. I remember some bad angles against Turner, I do not remember him being afraid to take on any runningback.

Why would he be afraid of Turner but be frothing at the mouth to take on Jacobs? It doesn't add up.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677046]I don't see any reason that Landry cannot get better. What leads you to believe that he won't mature and become a better pro?

To judge a man's career after only 3 years just doesn't make sense to me.[/quote]

I'm judging his attitude after 3 years. You are right on one part, judging a player's skills after 3 years is not fair. And I honestly feel his problems are not skill or potential. But well, maybe he'll turn a corner...I'm a bit pessimistic about it...hopefully new coaching leadership will change this.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677047]I have watched LL just as much as you have. When he played against Dallas and New Orleans he was destroying everything that moved.

The whole team was terrible against Atlanta. I remember some bad angles against Turner, I do not remember him being afraid to take on any runningback.

Why would he be afraid of Turner but be frothing at the mouth to take on Jacobs? It doesn't add up.[/quote]

Is this the same Atlanta game where his late hit on Matt Ryan led to a penalty and an altercation on the sidelines?

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[quote=Ruhskins;677053]Is this the same Atlanta game where his late hit on Matt Ryan led to a penalty and an altercation on the sidelines?[/quote]


Yup. The Atlanta sideline, including the coach, were a bunch of tough guys until Godzilla showed up then they parted like the red sea...

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677055]Yup. The Atlanta sideline, including the coach, were a bunch of tough guys [B]until Godzilla showed up[/B] then they parted like the red sea...[/quote]

:laughing2

Good one.

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[QUOTE]Holmgren says Cleveland Browns will definitely draft a QB, but probably not in the first couple of rounds

...Holmgren likes Sam Bradford of Oklahoma, but believes St. Louis will make him the No. 1 pick of the draft. Although he said he would consider trading up for Bradford, he knows it's not realistic.

[B]As for the second-ranked quarterback in the draft, Jimmy Clausen of Notre Dame, Holmgren was characteristically honest.

"I wish I liked him more," he said.[/B] "You know how you have a type of player that you like? It's not scientific. People like him a lot. He'll go high. But it would be hard for me [to take him]."

Holmgren does like Tim Tebow of Florida, despite reservations about his throwing mechanics, and has invited him to a future private visit. He intends to do that with "four or five" quarterbacks before the draft.

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/03/holmgren_says_cleveland_browns.html]Holmgren says Cleveland Browns will definitely draft a QB, but probably not in the first couple of rounds | cleveland.com[/url][/QUOTE]

Interesting quote. The Browns currently have the 7th pick and it seems like they wouldn't consider Clausen. And yet people are talking about drafting him at #4? I know Kiper is high on him, but I hope we don't draft purely on need and overvalue this guy.. If he's truly worth it I'd be excited about it - but seeing experts disagree about his value makes me nervous..

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I wouldnt believe a thing Holmgren is saying about any players that are about to be drafted, for all we know he thinks Clausen is the best QB in this draft...this reaks of posturing..

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[quote=ethat001;677089]Interesting quote. The Browns currently have the 7th pick and it seems like they wouldn't consider Clausen. And yet people are talking about drafting him at #4? I know Kiper is high on him, but I hope we don't draft purely on need and overvalue this guy.. If he's truly worth it I'd be excited about it - but seeing experts disagree about his value makes me nervous..[/quote]


Dude, everyone has his own opinion about these QBs. I say draft a QB in one of the last two rounds. No matter who we get, the guy is going to be a project either way. Clausen, Lefevour, Stull, Kafka, McCoy, doesn't matter. We need our first two picks to be OL to help shore up the line.

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[quote=Ruhskins;677052]I'm judging his attitude after 3 years. You are right on one part, judging a player's skills after 3 years is not fair. And I honestly feel his problems are not skill or potential. But well, maybe he'll turn a corner...I'm a bit pessimistic about it...hopefully new coaching leadership will change this.[/quote]


I disagree, usually after the 3rd year a guy makes a name for himself in the league. I think Landry can be a great player though. He has what it takes. His mental game needs some coaching up though.

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[quote=Ruhskins;676948]Well why can't Landry be like Orakpo, show up with a good attitude and get the job done from the get go. Honestly, my issue with Landry is his attitude, ever since he was a rookie he had stupid late hit and taunting penalties. How long until he grows up?[/quote]

Landry did show up from the get go and played just as good if not better then a rookie Orakpo, especially at the end of the year when he switched to FS. The problem is he's slowly regressed since then, with this last year just being a complete and utter failure.

Personally I think it was a combination of his attitude and Blaches scheme. I'd also like to add that Jackson's coaching seems to have had a negative effect on him but then again Jackson was here for both Taylor and Landry (when he was good). Anyway look on the bright side, even though we missed out on Adrian Peterson we also passed up on Jamaal Anderson.

In the end hopefully Haslett's scheme will get Landry to pick up where he left off during his rookie year.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677047]I have watched LL just as much as you have. When he played against Dallas and New Orleans he was destroying everything that moved.

The whole team was terrible against Atlanta. I remember some bad angles against Turner, I do not remember him being afraid to take on any runningback.

Why would he be [B]afraid of Turner but be frothing at the mouth to take on Jacobs? It doesn't add up.[/quote][/B]

The Jacobs incident was opening night in 08. after that & the ensuing embarrassment (it was even mentioned on an episode of friday night lights) I do think LL was affected. On the Turner td play in question he tried to make the tackle by throwing his torsoe at Turner's feet, he didn't try to tackle him w/a hit & wrap.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677055]Yup. The Atlanta sideline, including the coach, were a bunch of tough guys until [B]Godzilla[/B] showed up then they parted like the red sea...[/quote]

Do we have a winner in the Haynesworth nickname contest?

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Painsworth? no, that sucks haha

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;677137]Do we have a winner in the Haynesworth nickname contest?[/quote]


I can't take credit for it. Doc Walker calls him, Godzilla.

It is the best nickname for the Big Fella, that I have heard.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;677097]Dude, everyone has his own opinion about these QBs. I say draft a QB in one of the last two rounds. No matter who we get, the guy is going to be a project either way. Clausen, Lefevour, Stull, Kafka, McCoy, doesn't matter. We need our first two picks to be OL to help shore up the line.[/quote]

Well lets look at the situation:

We drafted JC late in the first round and after 6yrs he's still a project.

We drafted Brennan in later rounds and he's a project, However he's looked better each year.

I guess my point is your talking about totally skipping the top ranked talent, who might see the field inside of a year to replace Campbell when the team decides to let him walk next year, and pick up a QB late in the draft who most likely wil take several years to develope which time is something we don't have.

#1- Any new HC is going to want a QB that he feels fits his scheme and has not been brainwashed to utilize certain techniques that he does not like.

#2- We all know JC most likely won't be here next year. The front office/owner was ready to get rid of him last year so this year he is simply insurance. So if JC is not going to be here next year when he's a FA then we need to pick up a QB who will be able to take over the reigns either sometime this year or next year. It would be nice to stick him in games when we are ahead by a large margin in order to give him expierence to take over the reigns.

#3- a later round QB will take longer to develope because their talent level is a lot lower and needs to be developed.

I'd rather take a QB at #4 whoever that might be cause at this point Bradford and Clausen both look decent.

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Not to nitpick but JC has been here for 5 yrs, this season coming up will be #6.

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Would you trade for Justin Smiley?

[url=http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/03/22/source-miami-dolphins-looking-to-trade-guard-justin-smiley/]Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog » Blog Archive » Miami Dolphins looking to trade guard Justin Smiley[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;677163]Would you trade for Justin Smiley?

[URL="http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/03/22/source-miami-dolphins-looking-to-trade-guard-justin-smiley/"]Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog » Blog Archive » Miami Dolphins looking to trade guard Justin Smiley[/URL][/quote]
No. Every time the Redskins go to the bargaining table with Parcells, he finds a way to bend us over..

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[quote=GTripp0012;676956]Agreed.

The common solution to the Landry dilemma, among fans, appears to be to push Horton and Doughty into backup roles while we play him at the non-premium strong safety position.

This would be taking the easy road out, I think, as we can scrap two of the players on the team we have the least investment in while trying to salvage a third. But to me, it's questionable whether Landry can even outplay either Horton or Doughty in the box.

So I say: he's physically gifted enough, let's keep him back there as a traditional coverage safety and just change the way he's supposed to be reading the offense. Whatever Blache/Gray/Jackson were doing, let's change it. If he can adapt and reach his potential, great. If not, I'd rather release him a year from now as opposed to try to work an extension with him as a strong safety.[/quote]
exactly my thoughts

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[quote=SmootSmack;677163]Would you trade for Justin Smiley?

[url=http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/03/22/source-miami-dolphins-looking-to-trade-guard-justin-smiley/]Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog » Blog Archive » Miami Dolphins looking to trade guard Justin Smiley[/url][/quote]

If I were another team probably

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[quote=SmootSmack;677163]Would you trade for Justin Smiley?

[url=http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/03/22/source-miami-dolphins-looking-to-trade-guard-justin-smiley/]Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog » Blog Archive » Miami Dolphins looking to trade guard Justin Smiley[/url][/quote]

Only for a cheap price.

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No to justin Smiley, he's been injured too much.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;677164]No. Every time the Redskins go to the bargaining table with Parcells, he finds a way to bend us over..[/quote]

Well the way Vinny Cerrato negotiated, I could have robbed him blind too.

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im happy with our guard situation for 2010. what we need are two starting offensive tackles and a young, promising center to groom

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[quote=SmootSmack;677163]Would you trade for Justin Smiley?

[url=http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/03/22/source-miami-dolphins-looking-to-trade-guard-justin-smiley/]Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog » Blog Archive » Miami Dolphins looking to trade guard Justin Smiley[/url][/quote]

Only if they are interested in the players we are looking to trade. I would not trade a draft pick for him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;677163]Would you trade for Justin Smiley?

[URL="http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/03/22/source-miami-dolphins-looking-to-trade-guard-justin-smiley/"]Miami Dolphins news, training updates, injury reports, trades & more – The Daily Dolphin blog » Blog Archive » Miami Dolphins looking to trade guard Justin Smiley[/URL][/quote]

I would trade Carter, Pineapple Je5us, a 7th or a 6th for him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;677176]Well the way Vinny Cerrato negotiated, I could have robbed him blind too.[/quote]
LOL! Yeah, you have a point there.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;677195]I would trade Carter, Pineapple Je5us, a 7th or a 6th for him.[/quote]

Why would the Dolphins want Carter? They're a true 3-4 team.

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[quote=Mattyk;677162]Not to nitpick but JC has been here for 5 yrs, this season coming up will be #6.[/quote]

I apologize I thought he had signed a 6 yr deal and last year was his sixth year.

I guess your right, 2 yrs of Zorn, 2 yrs playing under Gibbs, and 1 year sitting on the bench. Still it doesn't matter to me. He was allowed a year to get up to NFL speed and pick up good habits and 4 years to impliment them.

Some only want to give the WR's 3 yrs but give JC 6 yrs or more. No different then the WR's he either has it or doesn't. I'm ready to move on.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;677189]im happy with our guard situation for 2010. what we need are two starting offensive tackles and a young, promising center to groom[/quote]

I thought we picked up a young talented Center last year? Williams? Whoever the guy we picked up from Maryland.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;677204]Why would the Dolphins want Carter? They're a true 3-4 team.[/quote]


I didn't say it made sense for them. I just said that is what I would trade for the guy.

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No to Justin Smiley. He remind me of Randy Thomas too much as far as injured too much. Decent talent. But you gonna trade for him to compete with Dockery, arguably are best lineman last year? no thanks, keep the players/ picks you would use to get him and draft young talent.

Question: What do you guys think of a Carter and 2nd round pick for the the Saints 31st pick if we wanted to move up, would you do it?

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If we could pick up some top-level interior players, I'd be all for it. But we are a lot closer to acceptable on the interior than we are at the tackles, so at this point, even the flyer type of OT that the 5th round pick would bring is more valuable than a veteran established RG.

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So according to Adam schefter the redskins will not receive any compensatory picks. Bummer...

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According to the always-reliable PFT, Sims has decided against signing with the Skins
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/22/sims-returns-to-the-49ers/]Sims returns to the 49ers | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

I would post a more reliable link if I had one.

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49ers re-signed OT Barry Sims to a one-year contract.

Sims, 35, can make up to $2.1M, likely through start-based incentives. The 49ers, of course, would prefer he not see first-team action in 2010 despite a solid showing in seven starts last season. San Francisco will likely draft a right tackle of the future this April and keep Sims on as a "swing" reserve.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

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I'm glad he isn't a skin, he's old and holds.

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[quote=Lotus;677293]According to the always-reliable PFT, Sims has decided against signing with the Skins
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/22/sims-returns-to-the-49ers/]Sims returns to the 49ers | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

I would post a more reliable link if I had one.[/quote]

Thank god!!

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[quote=Lotus;677293]According to the always-reliable PFT, Sims has decided against signing with the Skins
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/22/sims-returns-to-the-49ers/]Sims returns to the 49ers | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

I would post a more reliable link if I had one.[/quote]

PFT is plenty reliable for signings and stuff

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I think this basically tells me we will be going after an OT with our 1st round pick, the Clausen talk is a smoke screen.

From Jason Reid:

Redskins miss out on offensive lineman Sims

The Redskins lost another free-agent battle Monday when offensive tackle Barry Sims decided to remain with the San Francisco 49ers.

Sims agreed to a one-year contract that could be worth as much as approximately $2.1 million to return to the 49ers for this season, his agent Kenneth Vierra informed Rick Maese in a text message. Sims's visit with the team apparently went well last week, and it was believed the 11-year veteran was choosing between joining the Redskins and returning to the 49ers -- for whom he played 16 games, and started seven, last season. He played the past two seasons under Chris Foerster, the Redskins' new line coach who came to Washington from San Francisco.

If you're scoring at home, the Redskins have failed to sign several second-tier free agents whom they've pursued, including at least three offensive linemen. The Redskins are in need of major help at tackle with the retirement of Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels and the lack of effectiveness Stephon Heyer often exhibited after beginning the 2009 season as the team's top right tackle.