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^ It sounds good, but we haven't seen it as aproven comodity. I am with you in wanting them to succeed, but they haven't proven there ability and i am sure that is why they are/were giving Jackson a look. BUT I am all for one more shot for the 2 youngsters.

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[quote=ibleedburgandy;710668]I say leave VJ alone...The Skins don't need him! Just stick with Moss, Kelly and Thomas cause they'll have the ability of putting Cooley and Davis on the field at the same time. Imagine Moss, Cooley on one side with Davis and Thomas/Kelly on the other. Single back Portis/Johnson...[B]no need for lead blocker with the oline zone blocking and spreading the D out[/B]. Sounds great...Doesn't it?[/quote]

Still though, Shanahan likes to use the I Formation.
[YT]48HAiaY3vps[/YT]
By the same token I agree on not needing an elite reciever. I would rather do what the Chiefs did in the early part of the previous decade. The formula goes as follows

- Great running game with a line that makes virtually anyone look good
- Veteran Pro Bowl QB
- Elite TE
- Fast deep threat at reciever.

The Chiefs were among the leagues top offenses despite not having an elite receiver, unless you want to count Eddie Kenninson, who ironically has a similar skillset to Santana Moss.

[B][I]2002:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2002]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green:[/B] 3,690 yds/ 26 TD's 13 Int's/ 92.6 Rating

[B]Priest Holmes: [/B]1,615 yds 21 TD's 5.2 average 29 years old

[B]Tony Gonzalez:[/B] 773 yds 7 TD's
[B]Eddie Kenninson: [/B]906 yds 2 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank: [/B]4th 28.1 PPG


[B][I]2003:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2003]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green:[/B] 4,039 yds/ 24 TD's 12 Int's/ 92.6 Rating

[B]Priest Holmes: [/B]1,420 yds 27 TD's 4.4 average 30 years old

[B]Tony Gonzalez:[/B] 916 yds 10 TD's
[B]Eddie Kenninson: [/B]853 yds 5 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank: [/B]2nd 30.3 PPG

[B][I]2004:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2004]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green: [/B]4,591 yds/ 27 TD's 17 Int's/ 95.2 Rating

[B]Priest Holmes:[/B] 892 yds 14 TD's 4.6 YPC 31 years old
[B]Larry Johnson:[/B] 581 yds 9 TD's 4.8 YPC
[B]Derrick Blaylock:[/B] 539 yds 8 TD's 4.6 YPC

[B]Tony Gonzalez: [/B]1,258 yds 7 TD's
[B]Eddie Kenninson: [/B]1,086 yds 8 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank: [/B]1st 30.2 PPG

[B][I]2005:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2005]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green:[/B] 4,014 yds/ 17 TD's 10 Int's/ 90.1 Rating

[B]Larry Johnson: [/B]1,750 yds 20 TD's 5.2 YPC
[B]Priest Holmes: [/B]451 yds 6 TD's 3.8 YPC 32 years old

[B]Eddie Kenninson:[/B] 1,102 yds 5 TD's
[B]Tony Gonzalez:[/B] 905 yds 2 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank:[/B] 1st 25.2 PPG


Anway the point of all this is that you don't need an elite reciever to have the leagues best offense. I mean how many Super Bowls have the Pat's won with their God Like corps of receivers?

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

I know what your saying Dirtbag but some teams #1 WR are another teams 2nd, 3rd, or 4th WR. I can tell you our #1 Moss wouldn't be a #1 on many of teams, he'd be a #2 or #3 WR. He's our #1 cause he's the best the Skins have right now. I think many of you would say Moss is by far better then Thomas and Kelly right now.

and... you are correct in saying that teams don't always make it to a SB with their god like WR's. But what we are talking about is weapons. The Skins have one weapon who is often injured (Moss), then Cooley and now Davis. In the right scheme you might be able to mention Portis and the other RB's. What a team/HC I'm sure would like is several god like WR's, 2 god like TE's, 1 or 2 god like RB's, and a god like QB. Since according to many here we have the QB now, the TE's now, and hopefully RB's for a couple of yrs, can we look into possibly WR's with out someone complaining that we should just stay the course with the mediocrity we have had and look for any upgrades at that position which would cause other defenses to have to account for yet another threat?

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;710641]Nice read nyc, i wonder how MS felt about our 2 WR two years ago when he drafted eddie royal for Denver? If he didnt feel that these 2 had something for him maybe thats why he isn't really giving him a fair shot now. Of course BA could be the one trying to push for VJ with mike not putting up much of a fight becuase he did like vj coming out college. I dont know time will tell how this goes down.[/quote]

I don't see BA really trying to overstep Shanny on personnel. I think it'd be more Shanny wanting him and telling Bruce to see what it will take.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;710652]

Maybe Smith has decided to keep his distance in order to avoid ever making dispassionate decisions based on anything other than the best football interests of the franchise. Maybe he's trying to avoid being perceived as soft.

Or maybe he's simply a big jerk.
[/quote]

"As of June 15, the Chargers had the right to reduce the offer dramatically -- and so they did."

That's them being bitter and/or cheap. That's one of those things where it's "just because you can... doesn't mean that you should.."

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[quote=Dirtbag359;710684]Still though, Shanahan likes to use the I Formation.
[YT]48HAiaY3vps[/YT]
By the same token I agree on not needing an elite reciever. I would rather do what the Chiefs did in the early part of the previous decade. The formula goes as follows

- Great running game with a line that makes virtually anyone look good
- Veteran Pro Bowl QB
- Elite TE
- Fast deep threat at reciever.

The Chiefs were among the leagues top offenses despite not having an elite receiver, unless you want to count Eddie Kenninson, who ironically has a similar skillset to Santana Moss.

[B][I]2002:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2002]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green:[/B] 3,690 yds/ 26 TD's 13 Int's/ 92.6 Rating

[B]Priest Holmes: [/B]1,615 yds 21 TD's 5.2 average 29 years old

[B]Tony Gonzalez:[/B] 773 yds 7 TD's
[B]Eddie Kenninson: [/B]906 yds 2 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank: [/B]4th 28.1 PPG


[B][I]2003:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2003]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green:[/B] 4,039 yds/ 24 TD's 12 Int's/ 92.6 Rating

[B]Priest Holmes: [/B]1,420 yds 27 TD's 4.4 average 30 years old

[B]Tony Gonzalez:[/B] 916 yds 10 TD's
[B]Eddie Kenninson: [/B]853 yds 5 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank: [/B]2nd 30.3 PPG

[B][I]2004:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2004]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green: [/B]4,591 yds/ 27 TD's 17 Int's/ 95.2 Rating

[B]Priest Holmes:[/B] 892 yds 14 TD's 4.6 YPC 31 years old
[B]Larry Johnson:[/B] 581 yds 9 TD's 4.8 YPC
[B]Derrick Blaylock:[/B] 539 yds 8 TD's 4.6 YPC

[B]Tony Gonzalez: [/B]1,258 yds 7 TD's
[B]Eddie Kenninson: [/B]1,086 yds 8 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank: [/B]1st 30.2 PPG

[B][I]2005:[/I][/B] [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/stats?team=kan&year=2005]Kansas City Chiefs Statistics - NFL Football - ESPN[/url]
[B]Trent Green:[/B] 4,014 yds/ 17 TD's 10 Int's/ 90.1 Rating

[B]Larry Johnson: [/B]1,750 yds 20 TD's 5.2 YPC
[B]Priest Holmes: [/B]451 yds 6 TD's 3.8 YPC 32 years old

[B]Eddie Kenninson:[/B] 1,102 yds 5 TD's
[B]Tony Gonzalez:[/B] 905 yds 2 TD's

[B]Offensive Rank:[/B] 1st 25.2 PPG


Anway the point of all this is that you don't need an elite reciever to have the leagues best offense. I mean how many Super Bowls have the Pat's won with their God Like corps of receivers?[/quote]The Chiefs accomplished a lot with...I don't want to say very little, because they had an all-generation offensive line, Trent Green with a hall-of-fame performance through four years (you can adjust for context all you want, and John Elway never comes close to posting a three year span where he was as good as Green was for four years), a legit number one in Eddie Kennison, and Tony Gonzalez in his prime, not to mention Holmes and Johnson. That's not scraps.

But what's unique about the Chiefs is that even though they had all that talent, they relied heavily on journeymen and scrubs to come up with big catches on second and third downs, and those players like Dante Hall, Marc Boerigter, Jason Dunn, Samie Parker, and Chris Horn all had their share of big games on those teams.

We can't get enough (i.e. more than one) big games from second round draft choices, let alone UDFAs.

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[url=http://redskinshogheaven.com/2010-articles/july/fox-sports-vincent-jackson-is-practically-a-redskin.html]FOX Sports: Vincent Jackson Is Practically A Redskin[/url]

Could be true don't know what to think about this I guess I'll just role with whatever the FO thinks.

HTTR.

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I'm on board

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;711734][url=http://redskinshogheaven.com/2010-articles/july/fox-sports-vincent-jackson-is-practically-a-redskin.html]FOX Sports: Vincent Jackson Is Practically A Redskin[/url]

Could be true don't know what to think about this I guess I'll just role with whatever the FO thinks.

HTTR.[/quote]

You should watch the video, it's just Schein's opinion

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I am no longer on board. I want my draft picks. This would leave us with about the same amount of picks we had last year. 1st, 5th, 6th, 7th. Really makes watching the NFL draft pretty lame.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;711786]I am no longer on board. I want my draft picks. This would leave us with about the same amount of picks we had last year. 1st, 5th, 6th, 7th. Really makes watching the NFL draft pretty lame.[/quote]

But what if we can pull off a 2nd and 3rd for Haynesworth??

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

Since where bringing in every other WR what about the WR who was with GB & went to the Raiders but got injured, he's out there why not try him out i can't remember his name.

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Answered my own ? Javon Walker final answer.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;711790]Answered my mine ? Javon Walker final answer.[/quote]

[IMG]http://ericyang.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/slumdog-millionaire-fl-02.jpg[/IMG]

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^^ Thankyou, had to edit my post my english is so bad when i try to type fast.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

eh, i'd be cool either way...but there are some top notch WR's in this draft class coming up. If we are a 8-8 team I can see us getting Baldwin from Pitt who is a STUD. 6'5 WR. Kind of like AJ Green and Julio Jones. or Perhaps a micheal floyd from notre dame who I think will make a decent pro as well.

also shouldn't give up on DT just yet.

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[quote=SkinzWin;711788]But what if we can pull off a 2nd and 3rd for Haynesworth??[/quote]


yes I would be cool with that

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I would be very happy to try and find a team to trade Haynesworth to for 2nd and 3rd round picks. If we could do this I think it would solve two problems. The Albert Haynesworthless controversy would be over and we could easily spend a 2nd rounder to trade for Vincent Jackson. However, finding a team to give us a 2nd and 3rd is the challenge. Wishful thinking I guess. Shanny is slick. Maybe he can pull it off. I hope...

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Well I think the only way we trade AH is for a deal like that. It may be conditional though as, a 2nd in 2011 and a 3rd in 2012. I doubt that we would let AH go for much less. As I am sure Mike thinks that he is at least that valuable for two reasons.

1. He is a dominant player in the NFL ( take all the bitching aside )

2. His value to our team is yet of an unknown, he may come into camp and be ready to play. Learn the system for a few weeeks and realize how he will be used and that he would be able to make plays, because that is all he cares about.

Now the reasons why it may be far fetched to think we may be able to get a deal like that though are the same reasons why some of us don't want him here anymore.

1. He is a proven malcontent.

2. He is a fat lazy guy at times, and for all the plays he made last year he took a more off then he made.

My feeling would be him going to the Seahawks, but would they rather have AH or VJ? All the other suitors out there would not give the Redskins that kind of compensation, but the Seahawks might. They can't get both players.

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Get AH for picks is the main thing. I wonder if we can still sneak in getting a first rounder for AH or at least a couple second rounders. I have a feeling the FO is going to shed some of these newbie WRs ASAP. I don't think they are going to cut it. At least one of them anyway.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;711786]I am no longer on board. I want my draft picks. This would leave us with about the same amount of picks we had last year. 1st, 5th, 6th, 7th. Really makes watching the NFL draft pretty lame.[/quote]

I'll take a lame draft in exchange for an exciting passing game

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[quote=tryfuhl;711812]I'll take a lame draft in exchange for an exciting passing game[/quote]I kind of think we shouldn't do the Jackson trade, just because we need the picks badly.

On the other hand, getting a competent receiver -- in VJ's case, a star -- is probably the move we need to take us from contenders to favorites in the NFC East. It would be consistent with all of our other trades this offseason, which means that if the plan is to win now, we shouldn't hold off on doing this trade.

With all of those sides presented, I'm not really sure what the plan is. The reason this trade hasn't happened yet is that the Redskins are still finding a way they can unload Haynesworth to soften the draft pick compensation on Jackson, but there's just no historical comparable as to how to value Haynesworth's contract in a trade. For the entire salary cap era, a contract like that was untradeable.

Like others have said, I feel confident in the new front office. I don't think MS and BA will trade away haynesworth unless we get fair compensation, or make a trade for Jackson if we have to give up more than he's worth.

When you compare our off-season to the rest of the NFL, its crazy how much the skins have changed. In April we were willing to sell our souls so that we'd be able to fix our qb and ol situation, and now that we have (just go with it), it seems we've just gone on a roll to keep making as many changes as we can, just for the sake of change. I would be much more inclined to see how all the pieces we've assembled fit together before assuming more of our existing players are inadequate.


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[quote=tryfuhl;711812]I'll take a lame draft in exchange for an exciting passing game[/quote]


My response to this is how do we know we don't already have the pieces to have an exciting passing game?

With the 2 TEs, Santana, Thomas, and a RB IE Parker or Portis.

I think we may have the makings of something potent already. We haven't seen any of them in KS's system.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;711825]My response to this is how do we know we don't already have the pieces to have an exciting passing game?

With the 2 TEs, Santana, Thomas, and a RB IE Parker or Portis.

I think we may have the makings of something potent already. We haven't seen any of them in KS's system.[/quote]

You are right. We haven't seen them in KS system, but the coaches have and if they are trying to get Vincent Jackson what does that tell you about what they have seen so far. I really would like to see Haynesworthless traded to Seattle for two 2nds or a 2nd and 3rd and trade a 2nd for Jackson. But I also want six winning numbers and a lot of other things I probably will never get either.

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[quote=tryfuhl;711812]I'll take a lame draft in exchange for an exciting passing game[/quote]

Not sure if I would want another daft like this past one. One reason I am skeptical that things at Redskin Park have really changed all that much is the continued one sidedness of how the new FO seems intent on improving the team. Like the bad ole days of the Danny being soley in charge, our new FO had basically sabotaged its first draft to get McNabb, then hurt next years to get Brown. THe new FO hasn't been in "power" for a year, and it is business as usual. IF we get Jackson our next draft or two will be stunted even more. I am all for using free agency to build a team, but in conjunction with the draft. Thus far, it is still a one sided affair. Trent Williams and the other lineman were the only guys that we
drafted that really answered our needs. The TE, WR, etc we drafted were pretty much wastes. At least draft a CB for depth.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;711825]My response to this is how do we know we don't already have the pieces to have an exciting passing game?

With the 2 TEs, Santana, Thomas, and a RB IE Parker or Portis.

I think we may have the makings of something potent already. We haven't seen any of them in KS's system.[/quote]


IF Jackson is a hot commodity on Shanny and Allen's list it tells me that Thomas and/or Kelly were not very impressive in the OTAs. Remember how quickly they got rid of MR Wonderful from Nevada? Half the people in here were enchanted with him, but not the new HC and GM. That action in itself not only tells me how screwed things were under Vinny, but how shitty we ourselves are as talent evaluaters.

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Often it's all about timing, and the timing may not be so great to get VJ. Shanny is being smart and holding onto AH for the time being. All it takes is a major preseason injury to any dominant DT in a 4-3 system and we're looking at possibly a 1st rd pick for AH (we'll take a big hit cash wise as part of the deal but what else is new). Shanny may not want to give away our 2nd rd pick till he's gotten what he wants from AH.

If VJ goes sooner that AH leaving...then I could see TO signed afterward.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;711901]IF Jackson is a hot commodity on Shanny and Allen's list it tells me that Thomas and/or Kelly were not very impressive in the OTAs. Remember how quickly they got rid of MR Wonderful from Nevada? Half the people in here were enchanted with him, but not the new HC and GM.[B] That action in itself not only tells me how screwed things were under Vinny, but how shitty we ourselves are as talent evaluaters.[/quote][/B]

Mr wonderful and I are facebook frineds! LoL I agree bud. I am not trying to be a talent evauluater.

What if we are wrong though and Tana is the one they want to move to the slot? There is a chance for that to be the case.

Another thing is, and we have all known this for years. We do not have a bonafide NFL caliber #1 WR. Vincent is that guy, and they see a chance to make a move to change that.

I am not saying I want to trade the farm for VJ, I am just bringing up points as you did, and I like bringing questions to the board even though they often go unanswered!

[B][I]"The Goat"[/I][/B]
[B][/B]
[B][I]"All it takes is a major preseason injury to any dominant DT in a 4-3 system and we're looking at possibly a 1st rd pick for AH (we'll take a big hit cash wise as part of the deal but what else is new). Shanny may not want to give away our 2nd rd pick till he's gotten what he wants from AH."
[/I][/B]
Agreed, but the guy could come in and all could be forgotten. If he comes in shape and open to learning this D then he is here.

That is the best case scenario, I think your side is another side of being a good scenario.

You can apply the training camp injury to the Vincent Jackson trade situation as well. One injury to a top guy could get the Chargers more in terms of picks. That may be what is holding the Chargers from pulling the trigger on some sort of deal now.

I think they are asking a bit much. VJ isn't in the Brandon Marshall trade range for 2 2s or even a first right now. He is a step between Marshall and Santonio Holmes range. A ?? character guy, who has a suspension on the looming at the begining of the season. I would have taken SH over VJ for a fifth choice this year.



[SIZE=3][B]**SMOOT**[/B][/SIZE]

Can a player be fined daily for missing days in training camp? Or does that not apply to Mcniel or Jackson because they have not signed thier RFA tendered deals?

Also : Has Carlos signed his tender?

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;711825]My response to this is how do we know we don't already have the pieces to have an exciting passing game?

With the 2 TEs, Santana, Thomas, and a RB IE Parker or Portis.

I think we may have the makings of something potent already. We haven't seen any of them in KS's system.[/quote]
We might.. but we might not. This would be certifiable and maybe open up a trade for Haynesworth and a receiver for a 2nd or a 3rd and 4th or something

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Why is anyone opposed to trading a 2nd rounder for Jackson? Would you rather have a 2nd round receiver in next years draft? We've already got two of those on our team and if either of them were anything special, we wouldn't even be talking about Jackson. I'd gladly give up next years second and a lower 2012 pick for Jackson. The 2011 draft is going to be one of the weakest in recent memory. Guys will go in the late first next year who would have gone in the third this year. Screw 2011 draft picks if we can land young proven players now.

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^ But it would be nice to use the secondround pick on something other than a WR. We are going to have to get younger at other positions as well. MLB, CB, QB these are all positions that could use an influx of youth next April.

Of course Vincent is a nice piece to have, but I just can't get behind trading away the middle of the draft anymore. Show me that this stuff works for a couple of years and I might change my mind. I do trust BA and MS though. If they want him, and feel he is nessecesary I will cheer my ass off come September for him. Well the end of September that is.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;712220[B]Why is anyone opposed to trading a 2nd rounder for Jackson? Would you rather have a 2nd round receiver in next years draft[/B]? We've already got two of those on our team and if either of them were anything special, we wouldn't even be talking about Jackson. I'd gladly give up next years second and a lower 2012 pick for Jackson. The 2011 draft is going to be one of the weakest in recent memory. Guys will go in the late first next year who would have gone in the third this year. Screw 2011 draft picks if we can land young proven players now.[/quote]


Exactly,
I don't want to give up a second...although I have NO logical reason why..... other than I would like to draft.....someone in that spot

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[url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/07/report-chargers-vincent-jackson-suspended-by-nfl-for-three-games-/1]Chargers' Vincent Jackson suspended by NFL for three games - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com[/url]

A 3-gamer. So we can all agree this devalues him assuredly right? It may even take him of our radar if we really are in win now mode.

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If this indicative of his.....personality, he is...leaving my radar
EDIT...2nd DUI. May well be another problem is showing its ugly face?

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I mentioned this in an earlier post and people blew by it.

Why is his value so much higher than Santonio Holmes? Problem child, play maker...

2nd DUI and a driving under suspension ( on his way to the playoff game the chargers lost ) to dumb to get a ride to the biggest game of the year?

So here we are talking about giving up a 2nd round pick when just 2 months ago a WR was traded with a similar skill set and off the field issues for a fifth rounder. Seems as though the Chargers are asking a little much if a 2nd is what it takes. He isnt Brandon Marshall.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

whatever...I say grab him....he'd help us out big time. hime tana, and DT would be a pretty good trio i'd say...maybe a little MK in the mix.

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but I don't think we will...I think we've had enough low character guys on our team to last us the next 2 decades.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=tootergray34;712248]but I don't think we will...I think we've had enough low character guys on our team to last us the next 2 decades.[/quote]

Shanahan tolerated Brandon Marshall quite well and the duo gave Larry Johnson a chance here.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;712239] Seems as though the Chargers are asking a little much if a 2nd is what it takes. He isnt Brandon Marshall.[/quote]

You're right. He's better.