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[quote=Ruhskins;715890]I think MS has more than proven his point.[/quote]


It has been one day! Fat Al held the team and MS hostage for months.

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[quote=Ruhskins;715887]I don't think this has anything to do with feeling sorry for AH. It's all about how this is turning into a big media circus. In the end, it's AH's fault for now showing up when he was supposed to, we get it, the whole world gets it. But when it gets to the point where even some of the players are starting to question what is going, you know something is not right.

I have to believe that there is a way for MS to beat up on AH during practice. Shit, make him run laps after practice, keep him with the 3rd stringers, etc., etc. Anything but this media circus that is probably giving Mike Florio and Cowboys fans a huge boner.[/quote]
Again, it is reported on Redskins Insider by Tenorio that [B]Al himself[/B] wanted to take the freaking test from the beginning after the bathroom break. Ray Wright did give him the option to call it a day and take it the next day.

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[quote=Ruhskins;715890]I think MS has more than proven his point.[/quote]

I agree with this now after this morning. I like what Shanny did, but now enough is enough. I think Shanny gained the respect of the team and this is another step reminding everyone this bullsh*t of the past is over, you were 4-12 last season: change is here.

So point is proven, everyone is going to be treated equally and the expectations are set...Now its time to bring everyone together and get to work.

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[quote=GMScud;715881]Just because Albert won't win with MS, he can win back some teammates with all of this. I think MS is walking a fine line here. It's blatantly obvious he's making an example of him, which at this stage seems stupid. He showed up, he's 30 lbs lighter, and he's ready to work. Put him on the field and move on.

Apparently these conditioning tests are pretty brutal, and one defensive player said that few players would be able to pass the test that Albert has been taking, and [B]another D-lineman said they had to take that same test in the offseason, but they weren't timed. [/B]Others in the organization have acknowledged that he's clearly in shape and has dropped 35 lbs.

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/redskins-will-give-haynesworth.html"]Redskins Insider - Redskins will give Haynesworth a third chance to pass physical[/URL]

It's clearly a power struggle/pissing contest. We get it Mike. You're the boss. There's no need for this at this point. I'm no fan of Albert, but let's cut the distractions and get our best defensive player on the field.[/quote]

If this is the case then I could see the players union getting involved here. I don't have a problem with MS making an example of AH. But let's not take it too far. The reality is he only missed 2 mandatory practices. There are other ways to make him earn his keep.....putting him w/ the 2nd team, which they're already doing. Not starting him in the pre season games and so on.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;715880]You guys can't feel sorry for AL. Yea it's starting to get ugly with the media but [B]this is why Mike Shanahan has won 2 super bowls and has a great coaching record. [/B]The guy doesn't put up with BS. Albert brought this on him self when he asked for a trade and didn't show up for OTAs[/quote]

not to take anything away from MS cause he is a really good head coach, but i think john elway had a little something to do with that. let's not forget that this is the same guy that changed defensive coordinators every year and he drafted maurice clarett.

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I say, what Shanny says goes. Eff Al, crybaby bitch! Let him run till he blows, like he did last year on his back.

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[quote=skinsfan69;715896]If this is the case then I could see the players union getting involved here. I don't have a problem with MS making an example of AH. But let's not take it too far. The reality is he only missed 2 mandatory practices. There are other ways to make him earn his keep.....putting him w/ the 2nd team, which they're already doing. Not starting him in the pre season games and so on.[/quote]
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/more-on-albert-haynesworths-fa.html#more]Redskins Insider - More on Albert Haynesworth's failed conditioning tests[/url]
[quote]According to Wright, Haynesworth failed Thursday's test because he did not complete the runs in the allotted time after being forced to restart due to a long bathroom break.

"What happened the other day was he ran the first rep and then he had to use the restroom," Wright said. "You get three and a half minutes; he was gone close to 10. [B]So I gave Albert the option, 'Do you want to run this again?' My suggestion was, let's just wait until the morning. He wanted to run it again, so we ran it again.[/B] So you get three reps as opposed to the two that it normally takes."

Asked if he felt Haynesworth would have passed without the bathroom break, Wright said, "He might have." Wright also said Haynesworth would not have been required to start the test over if he had returned within three and a half minutes.

"No, he could've gone and ate a hamburger if he came back in three and a half minutes, he was ready to run," Wright said.

Haynesworth is the only player on the team that had to take the test, according to both Wright and Coach Mike Shanahan. Wright said it was not a Haynesworth-specific test, but that he was the only player who did not meet a 50-percent attendance mark during the offseason.

[B]"The guys that were under 50-percent [attendance] were notified, 'You got to get over 50 percent or there's going to be a test,'" Wright said. "Andre Carter was close, Rocky McIntosh was close, so we let them know. They're over 50 percent [attendance]. Our team was so high, we're 90.4 as a team, so no one was in danger of having to do a test."[/B][/quote]

So, from the bolded text, one can definitely conclude that Shanahan did NOT "force" Albert to take the test again, that Albert did three times due to him choosing the option of taking it again, and that this test could have been stuffed on ANYONE with less than 50% attendance rate in the offseason workouts and that they did notify the players. It's just that Albert was the only one who attended less than 50% of the offseason workouts.

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[quote=Ruhskins;715887]I don't think this has anything to do with feeling sorry for AH. [B]It's all about how this is turning into a big media circus[/B]. In the end, it's AH's fault for now showing up when he was supposed to, we get it, the whole world gets it. But when it gets to the point where even some of the players are starting to question what is going, you know something is not right.

I have to believe that there is a way for MS to beat up on AH during practice. Shit, make him run laps after practice, keep him with the 3rd stringers, etc., etc. Anything but this media circus that is probably giving Mike Florio and Cowboys fans a huge boner.[/quote]

The media can talk it up all they want but it's really not that big of a distration with on the field stuff.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;715899][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/more-on-albert-haynesworths-fa.html#more"]Redskins Insider - More on Albert Haynesworth's failed conditioning tests[/URL]


So, from the bolded text, one can definitely conclude that Shanahan did NOT "force" Albert to take the test again, that Albert did three times due to him choosing the option of taking it again, and that this test could have been stuffed on ANYONE with less than 50% attendance rate in the offseason workouts and that they did notify the players. It's just that Albert was the only one who attended less than 50% of the offseason workouts.[/quote]

thanks for posting.

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[quote=mredskins;715893]It has been one day! Fat Al held the team and MS hostage for months.[/quote]

Held hostage for months? Lol. He missed like 2 mandatory practices. For the record I think he should have been here for everything in the offseason, but this needs to stop now. MS is perpetuating this already stupid circus.

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[quote=GMScud;715907]Held hostage for months? Lol. He missed like 2 mandatory practices. For the record I think he should have been here for everything in the offseason, but this needs to stop now. MS is perpetuating this already stupid circus.[/quote]

This is turning into a polarizing topic. If Haynesworth is the clown, then i say keep the circus tents up. He is a lazy asshole. And this doesn't distract the team, they are too busy sweating, bonding, and learning. It's just fodder for us.

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[quote=GMScud;715907]Held hostage for months? Lol. He missed like 2 mandatory practices. For the record I think he should have been here for everything in the offseason, but this needs to stop now. MS is perpetuating this already stupid circus.[/quote]

There wouldn't have been such a backlash from his teammates if it was as paltry as you're making it out to be. Sacrificing team chemistry by not attending even [B]one[/B] meeting as one of the most important guys on the defense, if not the team, while getting paid the most in the organization is akin to holding the team hostage.

And this circus you're talking about, I'm pretty sure that it only appears that way to us on the outside. Within the team, this is building up Shanahan's credibility even more and putting AH, who is essentially a child, in line -- exactly what a child needs.

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[quote=skinsfan69;715897]not to take anything away from MS cause he is a really good head coach, but i think john elway had a little something to do with that. let's not forget that this is the same guy that changed defensive coordinators every year and he drafted maurice clarett.[/quote]

Clarett was at one time an upcoming star RB. They took a chance and failed it happens. All I'm saying is this whole organization hasn't had a HARD ASS coach in years. I love Joe Gibbs but he was more laid back in his 2nd stint. MS is rebuilding this franchise, we could always have JZ back instead.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;715913]There wouldn't have been such a backlash from his teammates if it was as paltry as you're making it out to be. Sacrificing team chemistry by not attending even [B]one[/B] meeting as one of the most important guys on the defense, if not the team, while getting paid the most in the organization is akin to holding the team hostage.

And this circus you're talking about, I'm pretty sure that it only appears that way to us on the outside. Within the team, this is building up Shanahan's credibility even more and putting AH, who is essentially a child, in line -- exactly what a child needs.[/quote]


Exactly! Thank you!

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I think I'm gonna go up to my old high school tommarow and see if I can pass the test....

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[quote=Gmanc711;715921]I think I'm gonna go up to my old high school tommarow and see if I can pass the test....[/quote]

While you're there, you should stop by your old English teacher's room and punch him/her in the face.

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[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/shortly-after-strength-coach-r.html"]Redskins Insider - Shanahan is done commenting on Haynesworth's condition[/URL]

"He'll pass the test," Shanahan said. "He's just going to have to be in a little bit better shape. I don't know when he's going to pass it. But he's going to work extremely hard... He was on the treadmill this morning and hopefully, in the near future, he'll be ready to practice some football."
For the second straight day, Haynesworth worked briefly after practice with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett and defensive line coach Jacob Burney. Haslett and Haynesworth walked off the field together, talking and smiling.

"When Albert does pass the test, he'll be out on that football field going 100 mph," Shanahan said. "I just think it's the best thing for him to be in the best football shape he could possibly be in...so when he's healthy, he can contribute to our football team.

"But I don't want to put a guy out there before he's ready, before I know he's in shape. I know it's the best thing for him. He may not know it at this time, but I guarantee you, the big linemen I've been with, the guys who are in the trenches, they still need to be in shape.
"This test, it's a very minimal test, and we've used it as part of our workout program for a long time."

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Hmmm.. So 300 yards is about 3 football fields, or 0.1705 miles.

With some simple math, that is like running at 8.77 mph for 70 seconds on your treadmill at home, taking a 3 1/2 minute break and then doing it again.

Doesn't sound that hard, even doing it with 85 degree temperatures. Then again, I don't weigh 300 pounds. Perhaps we could take a poll to see how many of us can do this..

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I honestly think I could do it with ease. I'm gonna leigtamtley try this weekend just to see how hard it really is... then again, I am about 120 pounds less than he is.

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[quote=mlmpetert;715926][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/albert-haynesworth/shortly-after-strength-coach-r.html"]Redskins Insider - Shanahan is done commenting on Haynesworth's condition[/URL]

"He'll pass the test," Shanahan said. "He's just going to have to be in a little bit better shape. I don't know when he's going to pass it. But he's going to work extremely hard... He was on the treadmill this morning and hopefully, in the near future, he'll be ready to practice some football."
For the second straight day, Haynesworth worked briefly after practice with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett and defensive line coach Jacob Burney. Haslett and Haynesworth walked off the field together, talking and smiling.

"When Albert does pass the test, he'll be out on that football field going 100 mph," Shanahan said. "I just think it's the best thing for him to be in the best football shape he could possibly be in...so when he's healthy, he can contribute to our football team.

"But I don't want to put a guy out there before he's ready, before I know he's in shape. I know it's the best thing for him. He may not know it at this time, but I guarantee you, the big linemen I've been with, the guys who are in the trenches, they still need to be in shape.
"This test, it's a very minimal test, and we've used it as part of our workout program for a long time."[/quote]

I think we should follow MS' lead and stop commenting on it too. Glad to see that AH and Haslett are developing a working relationship.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;715915]Clarett was at one time an upcoming star RB. They took a chance and failed it happens. All I'm saying is this whole organization hasn't had a HARD ASS coach in years. I love Joe Gibbs but he was more laid back in his 2nd stint. MS is rebuilding this franchise, we could always have JZ back instead.[/quote]

yeah i dont get how drafting clarett in the last pick of the 3rd round is a big knock on shanny. he took a chance on the guy who stock had dropped due to him being out of football for a year and some weight issues.

after a month of being on the broncos, shanny cut him before the reg season even started.

I dont mind when calculated risk vs reward decisions dont pan out.

ethat - lol i know if i didnt have abdominal surgery last week i would be running the sprint when i got home tonight. if anyone does it, let us know your time. lol all over the dc metro area there is going to be a bunch of middle aged guys running high school football fields this weekend with stop watches in the wife's hands.

edit - if enough people do it we could make a thread on everyones results?

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[quote=Gmanc711;715928]I honestly think I could do it with ease. I'm gonna leigtamtley try this weekend just to see how hard it really is... then again, I am about 120 pounds less than he is.[/quote]

120 pounds less than Haynesworth still sounds overweight. ;)

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I couldn’t be more behind what Shanahan is doing. Im cool with players doing their offseason conditioning at home or in their college city or wherever, except when you have a new coach or regime coming. If Al’s most important thing was winning he would have been at the Park for all the workouts voluntary or not.

I am a guy that is cool with taking chances on players. I like taking the chance with Larry Johnson. I would say let’s bring Shawn Andrews into camp. Santinio Holmes for a 5th rounder, sure. Mike Vick (last year), yeah let’s give him a chance. Even Tony “never have I ever had sex with my sister” Washington, hey we all make mistakes. My point is you cant have malcontents on your team if youre gonna let them police themselves. You cant be laissez-faire with guys that have the chance to be disruptive. Even if you side with Al on him not thinking we would switch to the 3-4 (I partially do) you cant let him walk all over you and your team. Not just to put him in line but to keep everyone else in line. Al made his point clear to the coaching staff AND the players. Now Shanahan is doing the same, and at the end of the day Al will be a better player for it as will the team. Unless he quits but that could ruin his career and he could lose money, so I doubt that happens.

Also everyone was there for at least 50% of the workouts and team togather averaged over 90% complete attendance. Shanahan apparently said if youre not here for 50% of activates there will be a test. What is he supposed to do back out on his word? Blow off everyone who worked hard at the Park because Al gets paid more? Not hold players accountable or have standards when you insist on private conditioning when there are major changes at the helm taking place?

I played JV football for 1 year (then found funner things to do after school) and our QB kept fumbling the snap in practice, again and again. Our coach said if you fumble one more time youre running for the rest of practice. Our qb fumbled the next play, so he took off running. About 10 minutes later our coach said you can stop and return to practice. Guess what. The OB kept fumbling. If you say something you stick to your guns. I hope Sanny does in this case.

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[quote=ethat001;715927]Hmmm.. So 300 yards is about 3 football fields, or 0.1705 miles.

With some simple math, that is like running at 8.77 mph for 70 seconds on your treadmill at home, taking a 3 1/2 minute break and then doing it again.

Doesn't sound that hard, even doing it with 85 degree temperatures. Then again, I don't weigh 300 pounds. Perhaps we could take a poll to see how many of us can do this..[/quote]

I just talked to my buddy who played C for UNC a few years back and said 2 300 yard shuttles should be "cake" even for a lineman. He is going to look into his old conditioning program but said they had a 1000yard shuttle followed by 3 300s for [B]part[/B] of their conditioning test.

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[quote=JWsleep;715886]Here's an idea for AH: show up to 50% of the OTAs. Then you won't have to run suicides in the broiling summer sun while everyone watches.

[/quote]

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

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[quote=Player_HTTR;715953]I just talked to my buddy who played C for UNC a few years back and said 2 300 yard shuttles should be "cake" even for a lineman. He is going to look into his old conditioning program but said they had a 1000yard shuttle followed by 3 300s for [B]part[/B] of their conditioning test.[/quote]

That is pretty brutal.

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[quote=Buster;715940]120 pounds less than Haynesworth still sounds overweight. ;)[/quote]

Ha, trust me it is. I did just drop 15 though, so I'm working on it lol.

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[quote=GMScud;715861]IMO this is snowballing into a public pissing contest between Shanny and Albert. I don't like it one bit.[/quote]

i feel exactly the same... Shanny needs to just cut the crap and and stop dragging this thing on, he's not going to get hurt because he can't run 300 yards at a full sprint. the most he'll sprint this year is 5 yards. Yes i get that Shanny is trying to make a point and "teach him a lesson" but at this point the last thing we need is this whole circus in town. He, and his $21 mil, are more important to us on the field then running shuttle drills. It seems like AH is making the effort to get back and has changed his attitude somewhat, and i think Shanny should do the same. Let him practice, but just make him pass it by the end of camp.

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[quote=Kindoy;715986]i feel exactly the same... Shanny needs to just cut the crap and and stop dragging this thing on, he's not going to get hurt because he can't run 300 yards at a full sprint. the most he'll sprint this year is 5 yards. Yes i get that Shanny is trying to make a point and "teach him a lesson" but at this point the last thing we need is this whole circus in town. He, and his $21 mil, are more important to us on the field then running shuttle drills. It seems like AH is making the effort to get back and has changed his attitude somewhat, and i think Shanny should do the same. Let him practice, but just make him pass it by the end of camp.[/quote]
Shanahan's did not just make up these terms just to spite Haynesworth. Any player who missed 50% of the workouts would have to be subject to this test. The thing is, only Haynesworth missed more than 50% of the workouts.

Shanahan also didn't force Haynesworth to run it again after his bathroom break episode, Ray Wright gave Albert the option of waiting until the next morning on Thursday, but Haynesworth wanted to take it again on Thursday, which seems to me means that Al also just wants to get back to football as well.

So, I don't think Shanahan and Haynesworth are even in conflict with each other.

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Jeff Fisher talks to Dan Patrick of SI today in reference to different conditioning programs and addresses Fat Al specifically.

[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/122181/index.html?eref=sihp"]DP Show Daily: Jeff Fisher explains why he's upset with Lane Kiffin - Dan Patrick.com[/URL]


DP: What is the conditioning test that players keep failing? Is it different for specific teams?
JF: Yeah, it is different. Different clubs require different things when players report. We're doing the same thing that the Redskins do, based on some of the reports I read. The players come in, and they'll be required to run a 300-yard shuttle from the goal line to the 25-yard line and back. You do that six times, and you have a time in which you have to finish it, based on positions. For example, the skill guys will be right around 60 or 65 seconds. The bigger and the heavier they get, the more time you have to finish it. Then you have a rest and recovery period, and then you go out and you do it again. That particular test is something we've been doing for years. We have a baseline. The players are ready for it. They come in and it's not a big deal. We will allow players that have participated in a [good] percentage of the offseason program—say they make 80 percent of the workouts—they don't have to test, because we assume they're in good shape. But teams do different things. I remember some of the clubs I was with had the players run an 880. That's an interesting test, because when are you going to run an 880 on the football field? What happens there is that players start training for the 880, and they stop training for football and they start running in a straight line and around tracks. The day the 880 is over, you come out to practice and you pull hamstrings and groins, because you're not in football shape. There are all different types of tests that have taken place over the years.

DP: Could you pass the conditioning test today?
JF: Absolutely. I need a little bit more time.

DP: What happened to Albert Haynesworth's desire?
JF: It's hard to say. Albert had some productive years here. He had some difficulty early in his career adjusting. He did not make an adequate commitment to our offseason program early in his career. As he matured and came on and became a better teammate, he understood it, he had fun and he enjoyed working here. I can't comment on [what happened in Washington]. Only those that were a part of [the Redskins'] locker room or that organization know what happened last year. Certainly, he's off to a rough start this year.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;715987]Shanahan's did not just make up these terms just to spite Haynesworth. Any player who missed 50% of the workouts would have to be subject to this test. The thing is, only Haynesworth missed more than 50% of the workouts.

Shanahan also didn't force Haynesworth to run it again after his bathroom break episode, Ray Wright gave Albert the option of waiting until the next morning on Thursday, but Haynesworth wanted to take it again on Thursday, which seems to me means that Al also just wants to get back to football as well.

So, I don't think Shanahan and Haynesworth are even in conflict with each other.[/quote]

I agree that they're not at a conflict and that this test wasn't created ONLY to spite Al, but i still think Shanny is trying to send a message with this test... and i think Al gets the picture. Bottom line, I just want Al on the field, i think it was John Clayton from ESPN who reported he was only off by 1 second so its not that he's not in shape... I just think that Shanny is being a little stubborn and isn't gonna let up til he does pass it. But i guess there's nothing wrong with that, i just wish this never got to being such a big deal...

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Another great article by Ross Tucker on the specifics of team condition test.
[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ross_tucker/07/30/haynesworth.conditioning/index.html#ixzz0vE9FF96]Albert Haynesworth, Terrence Cody bring conditioning to forefront - Ross Tucker - SI.com[/url]
[quote]
Albert Haynesworth failed a conditioning again on Friday. He won't be allowed to practice with the team until he passes.
AP

The NFL really is amazing. Seemingly without fail, every couple weeks a new incident crops up that opens the eyes of the fans to a facet of the NFL that they don't know very much about. I consider it my job, in part, to fill in the blanks when such a situation arises, and this has been the week of the conditioning test.

First, Ravens rookie nose tackle Terrence Cody failed his test. Then he passed it, supposedly, but more on that later. Later, veteran Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth failed his -- twice -- albeit amidst some controversy.


Read more: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ross_tucker/07/30/haynesworth.conditioning/index.html#ixzz0vE9FF96t]Albert Haynesworth, Terrence Cody bring conditioning to forefront - Ross Tucker - SI.com[/url][/quote]

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[quote=over the mountain;715930]yeah i dont get how drafting clarett in the last pick of the 3rd round is a big knock on shanny. he took a chance on the guy who stock had dropped due to him being out of football for a year and some weight issues.
[/quote]
I'm with you man, there are plenty of guys in skill positions as well as blue collar positions that don't make it from the 3rd round.. we might have a few on the roster

3rd round is the 1st round to start taking real chances IMO.. if you can hold till the 4th great, but whatever

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[QUOTE]Video of a 300 yard shuttle (done in 60 seconds)
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRncMfIkcSU&feature=related]YouTube - Conditioning- 300 yd shuttle (25 yds x 12)[/url][/QUOTE]

Doesn't look that bad to me, the guy looks like he was jogging. I guess the hard part is the starting and stopping, so you have to do it with 25 yards x 6 round trips. The treadmill wouldn't be the same test.

[disclaimer: got this link from extremeskins]

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[quote=ethat001;716062]Doesn't look that bad to me, the guy looks like he was jogging. I guess the hard part is the starting and stopping, so you have to do it with 25 yards x 6 round trips. The treadmill wouldn't be the same test.

[disclaimer: got this link from extremeskins][/quote]

we just don't know Al's time limit (or atleast i don't)

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[quote=ethat001;716062]Doesn't look that bad to me, the guy looks like he was jogging. I guess the hard part is the starting and stopping, so you have to do it with 25 yards x 6 round trips. The treadmill wouldn't be the same test.

[disclaimer: got this link from extremeskins][/quote]

That doesn't look hard at all. An in shape athlete should be able to pass this no problem. Wonder if Haynesworth trainer was more focused on making his client look good on the beach rather then getting him ready to play football. Either way this seems like an equivalent of being able to run a mile in 10 minutes or less (7 minutes here lol).

[quote=Kindoy;716063]we just don't know Al's time limit (or atleast i don't)[/quote]

70 Seconds

[quote]ASHBURN - Early yesterday morning, the cones were lined up 25 yards apart on the field for Albert Haynesworth's conditioning test. He needed to complete the first part in 70 seconds or less to have a chance to pass.

[/quote]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;716064]That doesn't look hard at all. An in shape athlete should be able to pass this no problem. Wonder if Haynesworth trainer was more focused on making his client look good on the beach rather then getting him ready to play football. Either way this seems like an equivalent of being able to run a mile in 10 minutes or less (7 minutes here lol).



70 Seconds[/quote]

thanks. and just to play the devil's advocate here.. we don't REALLY know how far the cones were apart from eachother in that vid. but it should only take him like 4 seconds each way with about a second in between each sprint to change direction... and according to my calculations thats more or less give some take some roughly about 1 minute. so yeah... he shoulda been able to do it.... seems like some muscle went with those pounds

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This one has a two minute rest in between sets. Times of 55 seconds and 59 seconds.
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So when is todays "ADVENTURES IN CONDITIONING" taking place?

Just got my answer:
RT @Rich_Campbell I'm hearing that Albert Haynesworth did not run this morning. Apparently he's resting.

I think this is a good choice. After military PT tests there was a day to recuperate for your body, and in the football season, the day after the game is usually a recuperate type day.