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30gut 09-05-2010 12:40 AM

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Practice Squad-
QBs that would be on my radar:
John David Booty, Levi Brown, Jarrett Brown, Kevin O'Connell, Zac Robinson
TE-Chase Coffman
Actual Roster:
Macho Harris, Matt Leinart

12thMan 09-05-2010 12:40 AM

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[quote=geichidanman;728379]What about Javon Walker? Dude has awesome hands and is a year younger than Housh...[/quote]

Garbage.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-05-2010 01:07 AM

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[quote=12thMan;728397]Garbage.[/quote]

Understatement.

diehardskin2982 09-05-2010 02:56 AM

Re: Other teams cuts - and the obvious should we get them question.
 
Derrick Burgess &TJ Houshmandzadeh

PHazard 09-05-2010 12:49 PM

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PS- Jarrett Brown

Roster - TJ Housmandzadeh & James Hardy

CRedskinsRule 09-05-2010 04:22 PM

Just curious, which teams cut the most serviceable players. Which coach would you least trust if he were ours to cut the right players.

Seattle cut julius jones, and a safety who started 16 last year. I don't know if the safety is any good, but should we look at him?

SFREDSKIN 09-05-2010 04:31 PM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;728493Seattle cut julius jones, and a safety who started 16 last year. I don't know if the safety is any good, but should we look at him?[/QUOTE]

jordan babineaux

DGreene28 09-05-2010 05:00 PM

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I'd rather bring in former Iggles Macho Harris or Quentin Demps to play Safety before Babineax.

vallin21 09-05-2010 07:23 PM

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[quote=DGreene28;728501]I'd rather bring in former Iggles [B]Macho Harris [/B]or Quentin Demps to play Safety before Babineax.[/quote]

Agreed I watched a couple of games of him at VT dude can play and is a true FS... which is what we need.

GTripp0012 09-05-2010 08:19 PM

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The one guy who was cut today that really intrigues me is FB Owen Schmitt, formerly of the Seahawks.

GTripp0012 09-05-2010 08:23 PM

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[quote=mooby;728265]Actually I kinda don't. Were they potentially career threatening? What a fall he's had, he's not even been in the league more than 6 years I think.[/quote]Vasher wasn't ever good. He just had a fluky high INT season.

He's as good now as he has ever been, so he may be worth a look, but all we would get is a poor man's Tryon. Would have been good in our scheme last year, but this one, he's just not physical enough.

tryfuhl 09-05-2010 09:22 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;728522]The one guy who was cut today that really intrigues me is FB Owen Schmitt, formerly of the Seahawks.[/quote]

guy's a tough SOB, has he stopped beating himself up with his helmet yet?

PHazard 09-05-2010 09:35 PM

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Donovan McNabb on easter weekend, Jammal Brown on Father's Day weekend, and here comes TJ Houshmandzadeh on Labor Day weekend!

From Twitter:

Former #Seahawks WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh's destination appears to be coming down to a choice between #Raiders and #Redskins.

SFREDSKIN 09-05-2010 09:50 PM

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[quote=PHazard;728532]Donovan McNabb on easter weekend, Jammal Brown on Father's Day weekend, and here comes TJ Houshmandzadeh on Labor Day weekend!

From Twitter:

Former #Seahawks WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh's destination appears to be coming down to a choice between #Raiders and #Redskins.[/quote]

Redskins could be a possibility for Houshmandzadeh

Although the Redskins opted to keep six wide receivers on their 53-man roster, they're apparently still considering other options. Put T.J. Houshmandzadeh near the top of that list.

Unable to broker a trade before the deadline for roster cuts, the Seattle Seahawks released Houshmandzadeh on Saturday. According to the Seattle Times, his top options now appear to be the Redskins and the Oakland Raiders.

Houshmandzadeh could be a good deal for some team. Though he has a guaranteed salary of $7 million this season, Seattle will pay the bulk of the contract. Houshmandzadeh will likely land somewhere for the veteran minimum.

Though the Redskins kept a half dozen receivers on the roster, only Santana Moss has a clear cut role. Joey Galloway appears to be the favorite to start opposite him but another receiver could easily come to Redskins Park and make a strong case for playing time. The team's other receivers include Anthony Armstrong, Devin Thomas, Roydell Williams and Brandon Banks, an undrafted rookie.

Houshmandzadeh, who's 32 years old and entering his 10th season, has been a regular starter in the league and topped 900 yards each of the past six seasons. Though he has a strong roots in the West Coast, there's a chance he'd be able to compete with Galloway for the Redskins' No. 2 receiver spot. His best season came in 2007 when had 1,143 and 12 touchdowns on 112 receptions.

30gut 09-05-2010 10:32 PM

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I hope we pass on Housh

I view Housh as an over the middle type possension receiver and our combo of Cooley/Davis and Roydell Williams will be able to run the same routes and have the same type of production that Housh would.

I think Housh's skillset would not only be redundant but he would take valueable reps/targets playing time from other players (Anthony Armstrong, Devin Thomas) we should be developing long term.

Also if we sign Housh wouldn't that mean that the coaching staff's faith in our current WRs is all false bravado and bluster?

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-05-2010 10:37 PM

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[quote=30gut;728539]I hope we pass on Housh

I view Housh as an over the middle type possension receiver and our combo of Cooley/Davis and Roydell Williams will be able to run the same routes and have the same type of production that Housh would.

I think Housh's skillset would not only be redundant but he would take valueable reps/targets playing time from other players (Anthony Armstrong, Devin Thomas) we should be developing long term.

Also if we sign Housh wouldn't that mean that the coaching staff's faith in our current WRs is all false bravado and bluster?[/quote]

No Roydell Williams would not produce the same stats as Housh would.

GusFrerotte 09-05-2010 10:39 PM

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Tj would be productive.If we do get him I hope it isn't to a long term contract.

skinsfaninok 09-05-2010 10:45 PM

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I hope we can get him for a 1 year deal that's it.

SBXVII 09-05-2010 10:53 PM

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I don't know why some of you are an playing TJ's impact...
He has 900yrd+ for the last 5 seasons. I think we could use someone like that.

tryfuhl 09-05-2010 10:58 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;728535]Redskins could be a possibility for Houshmandzadeh

Although the Redskins opted to keep six wide receivers on their 53-man roster, they're apparently still considering other options. Put T.J. Houshmandzadeh near the top of that list.

Unable to broker a trade before the deadline for roster cuts, the Seattle Seahawks released Houshmandzadeh on Saturday. According to the Seattle Times, his top options now appear to be the Redskins and the Oakland Raiders.

Houshmandzadeh could be a good deal for some team. Though he has a guaranteed salary of $7 million this season, Seattle will pay the bulk of the contract. Houshmandzadeh will likely land somewhere for the veteran minimum.

Though the Redskins kept a half dozen receivers on the roster, only Santana Moss has a clear cut role. Joey Galloway appears to be the favorite to start opposite him but another receiver could easily come to Redskins Park and make a strong case for playing time. The team's other receivers include Anthony Armstrong, Devin Thomas, Roydell Williams and Brandon Banks, an undrafted rookie.

Houshmandzadeh, who's 32 years old and entering his 10th season, has been a regular starter in the league and topped 900 yards each of the past six seasons. Though he has a strong roots in the West Coast, there's a chance he'd be able to compete with Galloway for the Redskins' No. 2 receiver spot. His best season came in 2007 when had 1,143 and 12 touchdowns on 112 receptions.[/quote]

I think that he'd be a good addition honestly. Guys can't say that we can't give up what it will take to get VJ and still say that we shouldn't go after TJ as well. I am assuming that the reason that we still have a practice squad position open is due to something that we anticipated happening as far as bringing at least one guy in.

BigHairedAristocrat 09-05-2010 11:07 PM

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For the vet minimum why not? Houz would instantly be the 2nd best receiver on the team and possibly best. We have nothing to lose. Let's get it done.

vallin21 09-05-2010 11:23 PM

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Williams/Galloway need to go... Housh for a 1 yr incentive based deal is a steal, so FO make it happen! IMO we need another [B]true[/B] FS so i'd cut Horton and sign the local kid Harris.

SBXVII 09-05-2010 11:29 PM

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[quote=vallin21;728554]Williams/Galloway need to go... Housh for a 1 yr incentive based deal is a steal, so FO make it happen! IMO we need another [B]true[/B] FS so i'd cut Horton and sign the local kid Harris.[/quote]

I don't know that I'd cut Horton since he plays lights out when healthy. I'd put serious thought into cutting Landry though.

Dirtbag59 09-05-2010 11:32 PM

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[quote]T.J. Houshmandzadeh looking at Raiders, Redskins

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 5, 2010 10:04 PM ET
After getting cut by the Seahawks and spurned by the Vikings and Bengals, free agent wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh is now looking at the Raiders and Redskins.

Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times reports that Houshmandzadeh has not returned messages since being released, but a source who had spoken to Houshmandzadeh[B] said he appears to be narrowing down his destinations to either Oakland or Washington. [/B]

The 32-year-old Houshmandzadeh led the Seahawks in catches last year and has more than 900 receiving yards in each of the last five seasons.

O'Neill writes that Houshmandzadeh is likely to sign for the veteran minimum salary in 2010.
[/quote]

Man, I wonder which one he'll pick?

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-05-2010 11:53 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;728556]I don't know that I'd cut Horton since he plays lights out when healthy. I'd put serious thought into cutting Landry though.[/quote]

So you would cut our best safety??? Yeah that makes sense.

tryfuhl 09-06-2010 12:01 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;728556]I'd put serious thought into cutting Landry though.[/quote]

Go on....

Hail to the Redskins 09-06-2010 12:03 AM

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LeGarrette Blount cut by the Titans!

I'd say sign him for sure if Vinny was still around just to get him to punch him in the face! I mean he's going to punch SOMEONE in the face for every team he plays for...

Hey maybe we can sign him just for the Dallas game! Get him to run a pitch play when Jerry is on the sidelines at the end of the game! lmao... sorry... just rambling now... lol

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-06-2010 12:14 AM

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come on TJ!!

mooby 09-06-2010 12:27 AM

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[quote=SBXVII]
I don't know that I'd cut Horton since he plays lights out when healthy. [B]I'd put serious thought into cutting Landry though.[/B]
[/quote]

With a statement that will stir shit up like that, why didn't you elaborate? Do you really think with all the reports we hear about Haslett putting Landry in his natural spot, the one he excelled at when he had Taylor beside him back in 2007, that he still will play like shit? Let's face it Blatche put him at FS because Blatche was not a coach that plays players' to their individual strengths. He has a scheme and he will use his players anywhere he likes in that scheme, regardless of whether they are a good fit or not.

[quote=Dirtbag359]
Man, I wonder which one he'll pick?
[/quote]

Honestly it's probably closer than we would think. While Oakland was a model for disfunction, they are definitely on everybody's radar as a team that is improving. They've made great offseason choices, they already had a good defense last year, they're looking better with JC at qb (huge upgrade over JaMarcus "Purple Drank" Russell), and to a guy like Housh, they may not seem like a bad choice. So I won't be suprised if he goes there, but I also definitely wouldn't mind if he chose here, as I've been unimpressed and definitely not enthusiastic at the idea of having Galloway actually play the #2 spot.

tryfuhl 09-06-2010 12:56 AM

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[quote=mooby;728567]
Honestly it's probably closer than we would think. While Oakland was a model for disfunction, they are definitely on everybody's radar as a team that is improving. They've made great offseason choices, they already had a good defense last year, they're looking better with JC at qb (huge upgrade over JaMarcus "Purple Drank" Russell), and to a guy like Housh, they may not seem like a bad choice. So I won't be suprised if he goes there, but I also definitely wouldn't mind if he chose here, as I've been unimpressed and definitely not enthusiastic at the idea of having Galloway actually play the #2 spot.[/quote]

Not to mention more likely to extend/pay more in the future. The Raiders went 5-11 last year, we won 4. I see us making a better turnaround but who knows.

Plus OAK puts TJ back in his home state, even though he's much farther north than where he's from, but it's not like San Diego is blowing up his phone.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-06-2010 01:00 AM

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My god, I hope he makes a smart move and comes to D.C. Did the Raiders actually do anything to that Oline of thiers?

He has a beast of a QB here in DC that is proven and spreads the ball all over the field, and one of the best offensive coaches in the league. Plus we have the defense.

Seems like a no brainer for him!! :)

CultBrennan59 09-06-2010 01:09 AM

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If we get Houshmanzadeh, we got to cut Galloway, please he's not as fast as he used to be, and is 38 years old. The only 38 year old wideout I would have ever signed would be Jerry Rice.

But like I've said before, Vincent Jackson is the best you could possibly get right now, and Houshmanzadeh is the second best option, but both receivers, are probably better than oh, I'd probably say our whole receiving core.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-06-2010 01:21 AM

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Keep Galloway and dump roydel williams... that guy is worthless. galloway is better than RW

Dirtbag59 09-06-2010 02:53 AM

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[quote=mooby;728567]
Honestly it's probably closer than we would think. While Oakland was a model for disfunction, they are definitely on everybody's radar as a team that is improving. They've made great offseason choices, they already had a good defense last year, they're looking better with JC at qb (huge upgrade over JaMarcus "Purple Drank" Russell), and to a guy like Housh, they may not seem like a bad choice. So I won't be suprised if he goes there, but I also definitely wouldn't mind if he chose here, as I've been unimpressed and definitely not enthusiastic at the idea of having Galloway actually play the #2 spot.[/quote]

I get what your saying but when it boils down to it TJ is a competitor. Right now the Raiders are definitely improved however right now their goal is to make it to the playoffs in the next year or two. The Redskins, however ambitious it may be, are gearing up for a Super Bowl run in that same time frame and if McNabb stays healthy they have a reasonable chance provided they get hot at the right time.

Tom Cable or Mike Shanahan isn't that difficult of a decision. Hue Jackson or Kyle Shanahan is even easier. Right now the Redskins look much better on paper and coming off a year where both teams had top 10 picks thats all you can really go on.

Plus more important then anything else is the fact that we have the QB edge, and in the NFL, receivers are dependent on quality QB play than anything else. If Bruce Allen can put together teams that saw guys like McCardell, Galloway, and Bryant go through a career resurgence then we should be more then fine with TJ.

mooby 09-06-2010 04:22 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;728585]I get what your saying but when it boils down to it TJ is a competitor. Right now the Raiders are definitely improved however right now their goal is to make it to the playoffs in the next year or two. The Redskins, however ambitious it may be, are gearing up for a Super Bowl run in that same time frame and if McNabb stays healthy they have a reasonable chance provided they get hot at the right time.

Tom Cable or Mike Shanahan isn't that difficult of a decision. Hue Jackson or Kyle Shanahan is even easier. Right now the Redskins look much better on paper and coming off a year where both teams had top 10 picks thats all you can really go on.

Plus more important then anything else is the fact that we have the QB edge, and in the NFL, [B]receivers are dependent on quality QB play than anything else.[/B] If Bruce Allen can put together teams that saw guys like McCardell, Galloway, and Bryant go through a career resurgence then we should be more then fine with TJ.[/quote]

Goodcall. I forgot to think about what QB each team has might have an impact on Housh's decision. If the deciding factor is playing with McNabb or JC under center than we would probably win. While I like JC and hope he'll do well in Oakland if I was a receiver I'd probably play with McNabb because of his pedigree. Also if there is one question mark with Oakland it'd have to be its' offensive line, I don't think their tackles are that good, especially Mario Henderson on the left side.

aceinthehouse 09-06-2010 07:30 AM

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Well...It looks like T.J. is deciding between the Raiders and the Redskins guys...
I'm thinking we will probably hear something by today...

Could we possibly be getting our #2 WR?
We shall see...

skinsfaninok 09-06-2010 08:50 AM

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^ if so we should move AA to the slot. Devin Thomas is still screwed

ethat001 09-06-2010 10:14 AM

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Again, if we sign Hoosh, we'd continue the trend of stockpiling the best throwback roster for 2006-2007. Four years ago if you told me we'd have Portis, Larry Johnson, McNabb, Hoosh, Galloway, Moss, and even Willie Parker at one point...

Hoosh (2007) - 112 rec - 1143yds - 12tds
Moss (2005-6) - 84 rec - 1483yds - 9tds
Galloway (2005-6) - 83rec - 1287yds - 10tds
Portis (2005-6) - 352car - 1516yds - 11tds
Johnson (2005-6) - 336car - 1750yds - 20tds


And to the prev point -- we'd definitely be a better pick for Hoosh. As I understand it, he's getting 7 million no matter what this year from Seattle. In DC, he gets one of the largest fan bases in the world - lots of endorsement possibilities, and a Pro-Bowl QB throwing to him, a young offensive mind calling plays, and a SB-winning coach. Oakland would be a longer term turn-around, and Hoosh doesn't have that much gas left.

Beemnseven 09-06-2010 10:39 AM

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I'm a little surprised at all the hate directed toward Roydell Williams. I believe he caught the first pass of the preseason, and put a move on the DB that gained some nice yardage after the catch.

Is he the best around? No. Is he absolute garbage? No. He's a guy that Shanahan liked enough to make to the final roster. I don't get what the rub is with this guy.

CRedskinsRule 09-06-2010 10:45 AM

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Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: Matt Leinart has reached agreement with the Texans on a one-year deal. about 1 hour ago via web


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