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LOL....we just lost the Locker/Mallet sweepstakes.

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Well this is Gano job and its good

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[quote=Alvin Walton;772587]LOL....we just lost the Locker/Mallet sweepstakes.[/quote]
We got SEXY REXY

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skins win! skins win!

very impressed with the defense today, got lots of pressure even without orakpo. thought rob jackson was excellent as was our linebacking play today as a whole.

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Pukes choke, we win. Montreal just has to win and I'm totally happy.

And yes, I predicted we would win. I'm a realist, not a pessimist. :D

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Great game now beat the G Men

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Good Win.. I know people want a draft pick, but I wanna see this team with younger players, and we did just that today!!!!

Defense looked good, offense looked okay, but good enough to win!

Good win... HTTR

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Good win for the Redskins Nation they earned this victory today

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Screw it, I know it messes our draft pick, but it was nice to see them win today. This was one they desreved.

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[quote=Gmanc711;772595]Screw it, I know it messes our draft pick, but it was nice to see them win today. This was one they desreved.[/quote]

Yeah, Jacksonville was half-assing it all game like we deserved no respect. F' the Jags.

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[quote=Gmanc711;772595]Screw it, I know it messes our draft pick, but it was nice to see them win today. This was one they desreved.[/quote]

people can say what they want about draft picks but a win feel good

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Our coaches have to feel great winning without the two Cancers DM & AH

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Nobody on that roster, in the front office, nor the organization cares about draft picks -- only fans do.

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[quote=Bigreds77;772599]Our coaches have to feel great winning without the two Cancers DM & AH[/quote]

Since when is Donovan McNabb a cancer?

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[quote=Beemnseven;772600]Nobody on that roster, in the front office, nor the organization cares about draft picks -- only fans do.[/quote]
Absolutely!
It drives me crazy when "fans" complain that a team winning causes them to lose a couple spots in the draft. Isn't it better to see guys step up and win?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;772602]Since when is Donovan McNabb a cancer.[/quote]

Like others he came to the Skins to retire a millionaire.Maybe you should watch more games.He does have a nice smile after a bad pass though.

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I chose them to win 6 games this year; I want them to prove me wrong and play spoiler to the Giants too.

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Grossman leaves something to be desired but, it was kind of refreshing seeing a bunch of guys willing to put in work during the week then play together on Sunday.

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Good win, but they still need to go all in for Luck. A qb like that will make average wr's and linemen look better. Trade the 1st, 2nd, and next year 1st for this guy.

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No one player is worth that much Michaelt31. Our line still needs to be revamped or this kid is going to get killed, then you gave away the bank for a busted up QB.

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^^ luck is no Bradford man chill out a little

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[quote=Michaelt31;772611]Good win, but they still need to go all in for Luck. A qb like that will make average wr's and linemen look better. Trade the 1st, 2nd, and next year 1st for this guy.[/quote]


hell no that is what is wrong with this team and what we always do. we need to change the culture here. stop trading the picks. damn even if the experts say he is a sure thing, still not worth 3 high draft picks

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[quote=GusFrerotte;772613]No one player is worth that much Michaelt31. Our line still needs to be revamped or this kid is going to get killed, then you gave away the bank for a busted up QB.[/quote]

I agree

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[quote=Michaelt31;772611]Good win, but they still need to go all in for Luck. A qb like that will make average wr's and linemen look better. Trade the 1st, 2nd, and next year 1st for this guy.[/quote]

That strategy has worked well for us in years past hasn't it?

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[quote=Michaelt31;772611]Good win, but they still need to go all in for Luck. A qb like that will make average wr's and linemen look better. Trade the 1st, 2nd, and next year 1st for this guy.[/quote]

How are we going to replace the guys who leave by retiring or FA? UDFA isn't going to solve everything.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772611]Good win, [B]but they still need to go all in for Luck. A qb like that will make average wr's and linemen look better.[/B] Trade the 1st, 2nd, and next year 1st for this guy.[/quote]
Uhhhhhhhh.............NO
It does not work like that. Ask Peyton
We need the lineman to make the QB and the skill guys look good.

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Forget the experts, watch him play. This guy is playing with below average wr's. He is better than any qb we have right now. Until we fix this qb thing, we always going to be a middle of the road team. We should be able to get some form of draft picks for guys like Hall, Carter, AH, and DM. This guy is made for this system.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772611]Good win, but they still need to go all in for Luck. A qb like that will make average wr's and linemen look better. Trade the 1st, 2nd, and next year 1st for this guy.[/quote]

That presupposes that Carolina or Buffalo doesn't want him as much as you do. There might not be an offer sweet enough to relinquish the chance at Luck.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772620]Forget the experts, watch him play. This guy is playing with below average wr's. He is better than any qb we have right now. Until we fix this qb thing, we always going to be a middle of the road team. We should be able to get some form of draft picks for guys like Hall, Carter, AH, and DM. This guy is made for this system.[/quote]

Yeah sure we will. 5th, 6th, and 7th round picks. Which as you saw last year did well enough to land on our practice squad. You don't find a lot of starting caliber talent in the last three rounds. You find projects who once in awhile can get you a diamond in the rough. We don't have the ammo in the draft to pull something like this off. Other teams might be able to, but not us IMO.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772620]Forget the experts, watch him play. This guy is playing with below average wr's. He is better than any qb we have right now. Until we fix this qb thing, we always going to be a middle of the road team. We should be able to get some form of draft picks for guys like Hall, Carter, AH, and DM. This guy is made for this system.[/quote]

None of the guys you suggested will fetch high rounders. A 3rd at most. And Sonny couldn't win a ring because his supporting cast wasn't enough. Having only a 5th rounder or worse next year is lol.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;772618]How are we going to replace the guys who leave by retiring or FA? UDFA isn't going to solve everything.[/quote]

You talking about amaybe 5 or 6 guys. Even if we use the picks, we not going to strike a diamond with all of them. All the good teams have 5 or 6 udfa. This is one position u got to fix.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772620]Forget the experts, watch him play. This guy is playing with below average wr's. He is better than any qb we have right now. Until we fix this qb thing, we always going to be a middle of the road team. We should be able to get some form of draft picks for guys like Hall, Carter, AH, and DM. This guy is made for this system.[/quote]


Its one thing to draft a QB high in the 1st round but another to give up a entire draft and a 1st pick the next year to get him. not worth the risk IMO, if we dont get him its not like we are the team who passed on him

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[quote=Michaelt31;772624]You talking about amaybe 5 or 6 guys. Even if we use the picks, we not going to strike a diamond with all of them. All the good teams have 5 or 6 udfa. This is one position u got to fix.[/quote]


true it is a position that needs to be addressed but not at the expense of all the positions that need help too.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772620]Forget the experts, watch him play. This guy is playing with below average wr's. He is better than any qb we have right now. Until we fix this qb thing, we always going to be a middle of the road team. We should be able to get some form of draft picks for guys like Hall, Carter, AH, and DM. This guy is made for this system.[/quote]

I hear that, but we can win the SB without Superior QB talent...ergo Theisman, Williams and Rypien. They simply had Superior O-lines.

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[quote=redskins5044;772627]Its one thing to draft a QB high in the 1st round but another to give up a entire draft and a 1st pick the next year to get him. not worth the risk IMO, if we dont get him its not like we are the team who passed on him[/quote]

I'm talking about three picks, hell we draft 2 wr's and a te and none of them will be a star. This is the year to do it. This draft is a waste without a 3rd and 4th round pick. With a elite qb and a stud at LT, we will on our way to a elite team. This team has a lot over paid or over rate players. It's time to cut the payroll and start over. This is the guy to do it with. I don't know if teams will be willing to trade with us. But I know one thing, the guys we have now won't cut it on winning teams.

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[quote=Hog1;772630]I hear that, but we can win the SB without Superior QB talent...ergo Theisman, Williams and Rypien. They simply had Superior O-lines.[/quote]

How many of those linemen were first round picks.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772631]I'm talking about three picks, hell we draft 2 wr's and a te and none of them will be a star. This is the year to do it. This draft is a waste without a 3rd and 4th round pick. With a elite qb and a stud at LT, we will on our way to a elite team. This team has a lot over paid or over rate players. It's time to cut the payroll and start over. This is the guy to do it with. I don't know if teams will be willing to trade with us. But I know one thing, the guys we have now won't cut it on winning teams.[/quote]

This team will still be nothing with only an elite QB and stud LT. We still need to address virtually every position on the roster with the exception of TE right now. We have very little depth and very few picks to start with. I can't believe you can say we would be on our way to an elite team with only those two positions accounted for.

Sure Luck looks like the QB of the decade. But what if he's not? What if he is only average, or a bust? Then you've set the team back years as we will have zero good draft picks and nothing to show for it going forward. This is the oldest team in the NFL. You are right it is time to cut the payroll and start over. But the way to do that is through the draft. You can't trade all your high picks like you are having a fire sale and then sit there and say AND we have to cut payroll and start over. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Impossible. Your position is like Communism. Great in theory, a terrible disaster in real world application.

Re: Week 16: Redskins vs. Jaguars Gameday thread
 

[quote=Michaelt31;772631]I'm talking about three picks, hell we draft 2 wr's and a te and none of them will be a star. This is the year to do it. This draft is a waste without a 3rd and 4th round pick. With a elite qb and a stud at LT, we will on our way to a elite team. This team has a lot over paid or over rate players. It's time to cut the payroll and start over. This is the guy to do it with. I don't know if teams will be willing to trade with us. But I know one thing, the guys we have now won't cut it on winning teams.[/quote]

yeah 3 high picks. no more wasting them. i saw some good things out of the young guys today. bryant looks like he can be serviceable NT. Rob Jackson played good, Perry Riley too, and we still have Henson who was a beast in the preseason ( i know the preseason doesnt mean anything). lets try to stock pile some picks maybe trade davis or cooley who ever garners more interest, paulsen is a decent backup TE. lets build with a good quanity of draft picks. let this front office and coach build there team it has only been one year. if after 3 years we are still a 5-11 or 6-10 team then lets freak out.

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[quote=Michaelt31;772632]How many of those linemen were first round picks.[/quote]
I don't know?
BUT I can tell you regardless of who plays behind this line, we have no chance at success...UNTIL that changes. We do not need to mortgage our future. We need to build the Hogs2 and we will have a running and passing game to contend with.
A QB....ANY qb cannot do that alone

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[quote=SkinzWin;772633]This team will still be nothing with only an elite QB and stud LT. We still need to address virtually every position on the roster with the exception of TE right now. We have very little depth and very few picks to start with. I can't believe you can say we would be on our way to an elite team with only those two positions accounted for.

Sure Luck looks like the QB of the decade. But what if he's not? What if he is only average, or a bust? Then you've set the team back years as we will have zero good draft picks and nothing to show for it going forward. This is the oldest team in the NFL. You are right it is time to cut the payroll and start over. But the way to do that is through the draft. You can't trade all your high picks like you are having a fire sale and then sit there and say AND we have to cut payroll and start over. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Impossible. Your position is like Communism. Great in theory, a terrible disaster in real world application.[/quote]


totally agree if he is there when we pick then i dont have a problem picking him, but not giving up so much to get a guy who could be a bust.