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[quote=SFREDSKIN;777004]Played for Gibbs and was a standout Special teams player.[/quote]

Did SF run a 3-4?

EDIT: NM I see that they did

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777003]Dallas close to hiring Greg Manusky from SF, Didn't he coach in WSH?[/quote]

So I guess Fangio is the guy in SF then

Ron Rivera could be Panthers coach by today, wonder who will replace him in San Diego

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777003]Dallas close to hiring Greg Manusky from SF, Didn't he coach in WSH?[/quote]
Link? Last I read, Manusky was not interviewing until tomorrow.
[url=http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/01/cowboys-will-interview-dc-cand.html]Cowboys will interview DC candidate Greg Manusky on Wednesday | Dallas Cowboys Blog | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | The Dallas Morning News[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;777022]So I guess Fangio is the guy in SF then

Ron Rivera could be Panthers coach by today, wonder who will replace him in San Diego[/quote]

You called it...

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6011884]Sources: Ron Rivera agrees to be Carolina Panthers' coach - ESPN[/url]

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I didn't call it, it's been in the news for a couple of days. I had thought it would be Perry Fewell or Rob Ryan.

But I guess the story for Skins fans is...Grimm passed up again? I don't even know if he interviewed

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[quote=SmootSmack;777052]I didn't call it, it's been in the news for a couple of days. I had thought it would be Perry Fewell or Rob Ryan.

But I guess the story for Skins fans is...Grimm passed up again? I don't even know if he interviewed[/quote]

Apparently the good people of Arizona aren't to fond of Grimm these days.
[url=http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=54436]Dump Russ Grimm - Arizona Cardinals Forums[/url]

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Maybe Rob Ryan ends up in Denver?

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/11/niners-g-m-says-quarterback-of-the-future-isnt-presenntly-on-the-roster/]Niners G.M. says quarterback of the future isn’t presently on the roster | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777074][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/11/niners-g-m-says-quarterback-of-the-future-isnt-presenntly-on-the-roster/]Niners G.M. says quarterback of the future isn’t presently on the roster | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Well Nate Davis was cut last week and I believe the Seahawks picked him up

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Wade Phillips is going to make the Texans defense a lot better next year. Maybe enough for them to finally live up to their talent level.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;777080]Wade Phillips is going to make the Texans defense a lot better next year. Maybe enough for them to finally live up to their talent level.[/quote]

Wade is the best D Coord in football outside of Capers

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;777004]Played for Gibbs and was a standout Special teams player.[/quote]

I loved him as a Skin. Such a high motor.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777090]Wade is the best D Coord in football outside of Capers[/quote]



......................please, expand .

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well we know its not perry fewell

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6012246]Sources: Dave Wannstedt a wanted man for NFL jobs - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777103][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6012246]Sources: Dave Wannstedt a wanted man for NFL jobs - ESPN[/url][/quote]



[img]http://www.adhurl.com/uploads/Captain%20Obvious.jpg[/img]

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[quote=SmootSmack;777052]I didn't call it, it's been in the news for a couple of days. I had thought it would be Perry Fewell or Rob Ryan.

But I guess the story for Skins fans is...Grimm passed up again? I don't even know if he interviewed[/quote]


As I said on another thread, it may not be fair but Russ Grimm's stock fell this year becuse the Cardinals' offense stunk in spades - - and it fell by quite a bit.

That was not Grimm's fault; the talent level dropped by a mile when Warner retired and Boldin went to Baltimore. But he is the OC and it happened on his watch.

He got more credit than he deserved when Warner was there throwing to Fitzgerald/Boldin/Beaston and now he gets more blame than he deserves when he has to go with John Skelton, Max Hall and Derek Anderson throwing the ball to Fitzgerald who is double and triple teamed most of the time.

Fairness has nothing to do with it. That is the way of the NFL...

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Or the same reasons Grimm hasn't been hired in the past continue

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/12/vernon-davis-id-love-to-catch-passes-from-donovan-mcnabb/]Vernon Davis: “I’d love to catch passes from Donovan McNabb” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777276][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/12/vernon-davis-id-love-to-catch-passes-from-donovan-mcnabb/"]Vernon Davis: “I’d love to catch passes from Donovan McNabb” | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]
Sure, bring in Vernon.

We'll do a trips formation with 3 TEs.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777276][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/12/vernon-davis-id-love-to-catch-passes-from-donovan-mcnabb/]Vernon Davis: “I’d love to catch passes from Donovan McNabb” | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

The worms at Candlestick Park are currently in the process of executing a mass migration.

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[quote=Buster;777287]Sure, bring in Vernon.

We'll do a trips formation with 3 TEs.[/quote]
I think Vernon Davis was referring to the recent speculation of McNabb leaving Washington for San Francisco.

Or were you kidding?

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[quote=sandtrapjack;777318]I think Vernon Davis was referring to the recent speculation of McNabb leaving Washington for San Francisco.

Or were you kidding?[/quote]

:doh:


Dallas fan...I should not be surprised.

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Childress interviewing for the Dolphins OC job...could be a step closer to my earlier prediction of McNabb in Miami next year

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6017674]Miami Dolphins to talk to Brad Childress about coaching O - ESPN[/url]

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Miami certainly doesnt have a starting-caliber incumbent QB on the roster and Childress is likely the only coach who would consider giving up anything for McNabb. I would be thrilled if we got a 4th for McNabb, but doubt we could get more than a 5th.

Strangely enough, we were all excited after the McNabb extension because it would give us the right to trade him if things didnt work out. Hoewver, if we had just let McNabb walk away after this season under the terms of his previous contract, we likely would have gotten a 3rd or 4th round compesnatory pick in 2012. By signing him to an extension, publically humiliating, and letting the entire league know he was not part of our future plans, we dramatically REDUCED the compensation we would receive when we let him go.

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Per ESPN, more importantly - as discussed in the sam bradford thread, Pat Shurmur is the new Browns head coach.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;777573]Miami certainly doesnt have a starting-caliber incumbent QB on the roster and Childress is likely the only coach who would consider giving up anything for McNabb. I would be thrilled if we got a 4th for McNabb, but doubt we could get more than a 5th.

Strangely enough, we were all excited after the McNabb extension because it would give us the right to trade him if things didnt work out. Hoewver, if we had just let McNabb walk away after this season under the terms of his previous contract, [B]we likely would have gotten a 3rd or 4th round compesnatory pick in 2012[/B]. By signing him to an extension, publically humiliating, and letting the entire league know he was not part of our future plans, we dramatically REDUCED the compensation we would receive when we let him go.[/quote]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no compensatory picks for players traded for. You only get comp. picks for players you drafted that later left as free agents. Again, I'm not positive, someone set it straight if you know.

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[quote=SmootSmack;777522]Childress interviewing for the Dolphins OC job...could be a step closer to my earlier prediction of McNabb in Miami next year

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6017674"]Miami Dolphins to talk to Brad Childress about coaching O - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

I missed that prediciton. I would've been shocked, but now if Childress goes there it of course makes sense. The Tuna is in some backseat consulting role there right? His presence will make it harder to get value for DM. We need some payback from the JT trade. One 34 year old for a 2nd & 6th deserves the same in return!

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McNabb in Miami? Makes sense.

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[quote=freddyg12;777578]Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no compensatory picks for players traded for. You only get comp. picks for players you drafted that later left as free agents. Again, I'm not positive, someone set it straight if you know.[/quote]

We did get a comp. pick for Brunell. I think we used it to fetch Marko Mitchell.

[quote]Compensatory picks

In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as "compensatory picks," are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as "supplemental compensatory selections").

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.[/quote][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft]National Football League Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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Well, first that assumes similar constructs in the new CBA, and no one is sure how that will be handled. 2nd, I think we will be active in the FA market, so we will probably sign as many FA's as we don't. It comes down to having control over a player's rights vs not. If McNabb had lit it up in the 2nd half of the season the discussion would be completely different.

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[quote=freddyg12;777581]I missed that prediciton. I would've been shocked, but now if Childress goes there it of course makes sense. The Tuna is in some backseat consulting role there right? His presence will make it harder to get value for DM. We need some payback from the JT trade. One 34 year old for a 2nd & 6th deserves the same in return![/quote]

Well, to be fair I think it was someone else (Giantone?) who said the Dolphins could be a place he'll land and I said I agreed with him. I never really saw Minnesota or Arizona as options. San Fran and Miami yes

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Is there anybody who left the Skins after '09 that we might possibly get awarded a comp pick for?

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[quote=mooby;777594]Is there anybody who left the Skins after '09 that we might possibly get awarded a comp pick for?[/quote]

B Lloyd? Lol.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;777588]We did get a comp. pick for Brunell. I think we used it to fetch Marko Mitchell.

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft"]National Football League Draft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL][/quote]

I remember that now, thanks.

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We should have kept Brunell. He's still playing.

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[quote=SmootSmack;777593]Well, to be fair I think it was someone else (Giantone?) who said the Dolphins could be a place he'll land and I said I agreed with him. I never really saw Minnesota or Arizona as options. San Fran and Miami yes[/quote]

Well, whomever said it is a friggin' [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/773255-post47.html"]genius[/URL].

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[quote=Buster;777625]We should have kept Brunell. He's still playing.[/quote]

Dude is a tank

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[quote=skinsfaninok;777638]Dude is a tank[/quote]

Plus he needs the money. :D



Marko didn't get picked up after the Vikings cut him, did he?


Funny that Brunell had more game action than Marko this year.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;777633]Well, whomever said it is a friggin' [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/773255-post47.html"]genius[/URL].[/quote]

LOL. Yeah. We've got a few geniuses here

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/758089-post105.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/758107-post106.html[/url]

Unless he doesn't go to Miami, in which case we can all just deny we ever said anything