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[quote=tryfuhl;819571]400 lbs, nowhere near 1000mph lol[/quote]

Still man McNabb picked a terrible time to go to Minnesota. God knows who will be protecting his blind side, his number one receiver is Percy Harvin, half of that dominating D-Line is now gone. The only good things about that team are Leslie Frazier and AD.

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Well what was long expected is now official as LeRon McLain has signed with Kansas City. He had a pretty interesting little twitter battle yesterday with whoever runs the Baltimore Ravens account

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819574]Still man McNabb picked a terrible time to go to Minnesota. God knows who will be protecting his blind side, his number one receiver is Percy Harvin, half of that dominating D-Line is now gone. The only good things about that team are Leslie Frazier and AD.[/quote]

And he'll bitch and moan in his classic passive-aggressive manner when Ponder flat out gets the starting job from him come midseason. Watch, Ponder will suddenly "spark" the anemic offense "led" --more like hampered--, by McFlaky.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;819593]And he'll bitch and moan in his classic passive-aggressive manner when Ponder flat out gets the starting job from him come midseason. Watch, Ponder will suddenly "spark" the anemic offense "led" --more like hampered--, by McFlaky.[/quote]

Vikings will be in the top 10 next April and it won't be from a trade up, mark my words. I can forgive not having a game breaking receiver but an anemic line with an inacccurate QB learning a new system in a month or two? My God.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819576]Well what was long expected is now official as LeRon McLain has signed with Kansas City. He had a pretty interesting little twitter battle yesterday with whoever runs the Baltimore Ravens account[/quote]



[url=http://twitter.com/#!/LeRonMcClain33]Twitter[/url]


I must be missing it. :(

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[quote=SmootSmack;819576]Well what was long expected is now official as LeRon McLain has signed with Kansas City. He had a pretty interesting little twitter battle yesterday with whoever runs the Baltimore Ravens account[/quote]

what happened there?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819596]Vikings will be in the top 10 next April and it won't be from a trade up, mark my words. I can forgive not having a game breaking receiver but an anemic line with an inacccurate QB learning a new system in a month or two? My God.[/quote]


Seeing how Brett Favre got wrecked last year behind that line, I expect the same in the near future for McNabb. He's about 2 years too late to want to be on the Vikings. That window closed last year.

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Whoops wrong thread

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[quote=NC_Skins;819603]Seeing how Brett Favre got wrecked last year behind that line, I expect the same in the near future for McNabb. He's about 2 years too late to want to be on the Vikings. That window closed last year.[/quote]

I know right. Seems like the real reason they brought in McNabb was so they didn't have to put the fragile Ponder behind that O-Line.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;819602]what happened there?[/quote]

Ravens said "unlike LeRon McLain, Vontae Leach knows his role on the team and plans to block for Ray Rice" A subtle jab, it seems, at McLain's statement that he wants to be recognized for more than blocking and he wants carries. LM didn't take too kindly to that.

Seems like maybe some tweets are gone

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^^ it looks like he retweeted this

[QUOTE]@RavensInsider Aaron Wilson

Vonta Leach: 'I am a fullback. No, I don't want to be a running back. I know my job.'
2 Aug via web[/QUOTE]

He didn't even comment about it, just retweeted it. It was pretty lame by Aaron Wilson though.

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For the record though, it's not Aaron Wilson McLain was upset with. Wilson is just a reporter that's not the official Ravens account

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Reed doughty is coming back

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[quote=Lotus;819505]I've wondered why we didn't get Harris, too. Maybe a far better chance to start in Philly was persuasive to him.[/quote]

Is it [B]POSSIBLE [/B]that Ryan Harris might not want to play under Mike Shanahan again?

If he thought that he did not have a fair chance to start for the Skins given the state of their OL, he would definitely have gone wherever the biggest paycheck would have been.

The fact is that the Redskins image around the league as of August 2011 is not a good one - - unless all you are looking for is a big payday. I am not saying that is a "proper image" or that the "image will never change", but that is what is out there at the moment.

Bruce Allen and the Shanahans need to change that as quickly as possible and THE best way to do that is to win more games than they lose.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;819656]Is it [B]POSSIBLE [/B]that Ryan Harris might not want to play under Mike Shanahan again?
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I always thought Brown was the easier choice. the only advantage Harris had over Brown was age. He also has the all important familiarity with the Skins version of the Shanahan system as opposed to Harris who's two years removed.

Also lets not forget, Harris hasn't played at least 15 games in a season since 2008. Brown did it last year while hurt. I maintain that Harris is a good fit for the Eagles but part of that is due to having Winston Justice backing him up. If Harris went down for us we'd be pretty screwed.

To put it simply virtually every scout will tell you that Brown is better then Harris in terms of run blocking, pass blocking, durability, versatility, and leadership. And to top it off Brown came back at a reasonable price. Either way we're talking about comparing a pro bowl caliber player to a very solid but oft injured player.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;819656]Is it [B]POSSIBLE [/B]that Ryan Harris might not want to play under Mike Shanahan again?

If he thought that he did not have a fair chance to start for the Skins given the state of their OL, he would definitely have gone wherever the biggest paycheck would have been.

The fact is that the Redskins image around the league as of August 2011 is not a good one - - unless all you are looking for is a big payday. I am not saying that is a "proper image" or that the "image will never change", but that is what is out there at the moment.

Bruce Allen and the Shanahans need to change that as quickly as possible and THE best way to do that is to win more games than they lose.[/quote]

For what it is worth, I read [URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2011/jul/20/right-tackle-ryan-harris-warm-redskins-reunion-sha/"]an article[/URL] in which Harris seemed to be very positive about coming to work with Shanny again but was concerned about an opportunity to start, as he was targeting teams clearly in the market for a tackle.

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Dirtbag59:

You may be absolutely correct - - but let's not pass off Jammal Brown's injury history as some minor trivial matter here. HIs injury history is quite significant in and of itself.

And there is no reason that the Skins could not have had both Harris and Brown; it isn't as if there are HoF quality players lining up at the other OL positions...

Oh, and with regard to the Eagles' OL, one of the main reasons - - if not THE main reason - - the Eagles needed to get a RT to protect Vick's blind side is because Winston Justice remains on the PUP List. King Dunlop was running with the first team in practice and that might not be the permanent answer for a team that hopes to make a run in the playoffs...

Philly fans translate the words "King Dunlop" to mean "Stephon Heyer" at RT...

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;819656]Is it [B]POSSIBLE [/B]that Ryan Harris might not want to play under Mike Shanahan again?

If he thought that he did not have a fair chance to start for the Skins given the state of their OL, he would definitely have gone wherever the biggest paycheck would have been.

The fact is that the Redskins image around the league as of August 2011 is not a good one - - unless all you are looking for is a big payday. I am not saying that is a "proper image" or that the "image will never change", but that is what is out there at the moment.

Bruce Allen and the Shanahans need to change that as quickly as possible and THE best way to do that is to win more games than they lose.[/quote]

He would have signed with us in less than 5 seconds if we hadn't chosen Brown first

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[quote=ragin98;819638]Reed doughty is coming back[/quote]

But I thought Rogers said we don't like to bring our own guys back. Except this offseason we've re-signed Moss, Blades, Grossman, Golston, Doughty, Brown,

Carlos must have dropped math too.

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Rams sign Cadillac Williams

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[quote=SmootSmack;819676][B]But I thought Rogers said we don't like to bring our own guys back[/B]. Except this offseason we've re-signed Moss, Blades, Grossman, Golston, Doughty, Brown,

Carlos must have dropped math too.[/quote]

No Carlos we don't like to bring you back LOL.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819677]Rams sign Cadillac Williams[/quote]

Can we even call him Cadillac anymore??

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;819682]Can we even call him Cadillac anymore??[/quote]

His new nickname should be Ford Pinto Williams.

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[quote=mooby;819697]His new nickname should be Ford Pinto Williams.[/quote]

Cadichevette Williams

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[quote=SkinzWin;819707]Cadichevette Williams[/quote]

Gremlin Williams

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Good read here

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1188944/index.htm]On the wildest first week in - 08.08.11 - SI Vault[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;819676]But I thought Rogers said we don't like to bring our own guys back. Except this offseason we've re-signed Moss, Blades, Grossman, Golston, Doughty, Brown,

Carlos must have dropped math too.[/quote]

Speaking of re-signings, it looks like Rocky is back.

[URL="https://twitter.com/#!/Rich_Campbell/status/98943431681912832"]https://twitter.com/#!/Rich_Campbell/status/98943431681912832[/URL]

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[quote=SmootSmack;819758]Good read here

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1188944/index.htm]On the wildest first week in - 08.08.11 - SI Vault[/url][/quote]
great read

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So I guess the train of thought with Rocky is that "well we added Bowen, Cofield, Jenkins, Neild and we also got good play out of Carriker and Bryant so now with a D-Line we can protect Rocky and give him more room to make plays. Plus he knows the system in a shortened offseason."

So much for that degenerate knee condition. I wonder if Los still feels like the Skins don't try and resign their own.

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rocky is probably a one year deal, but we needed a vet body and a lot of the guys i would have preferred took 3mill deals elsewhere, so, at this point, its a reasonable move.

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Tiki working out for the Dolphins.

Derrick Mason with the Jets.

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Jets and Eagles are the winners in the big name free agency game.

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Eagles made a lot of huge-name signings but also lost some good players and still have some holes.

They lost Stewart Bradley, Quinton Mikell, Ernie Sims, Omar Gaither, Rocca, Akers. Now huge names but they're lost starters.

Now Mike Patterson and Jeremy Maclin could have serious health issues that could keep them out for a while. Winston Justice just visited Dr. James Andrews because his rehab is taking longer than expected...never a good sign. DeSean Jackson...who knows with him...holding out, always an injury risk, will be behave himself?


Plus if Vick goes down...there goes the season. Vince Young will not take them to the playoffs even.

When looking at the FA additions, sure, they "win" on paper like we usually do. When looking at their roster in its entirety and accounting for losses too, they're not as invincible as the past week's media buzz might lead you to believe.

Yeah, they'll probably win the division but they're nowhere near SB favorites to me. Green Bay, Atlanta and New Orleans are all superior.


Bad news for Patterson - needs brain surgery.

[url=http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/99098254586806272]Twitter[/url]

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Looks like the Jets may be signing Derrick Mason and letting Cotchery go. Plax and Mason..that's a curious move

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[quote=SmootSmack;819979]Looks like the Jets may be signing Derrick Mason and [B]letting Cotchery g[/B]o. Plax and Mason..that's a curious move[/quote]

That would be a stupid move, I feel.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;819574]Still man McNabb picked a terrible time to go to Minnesota. God knows who will be protecting his blind side, his number one receiver is Percy Harvin, half of that dominating D-Line is now gone. The only good things about that team are Leslie Frazier and AD.[/quote]

Maybe Phil "False Start" Loadholt.

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[quote=Lotus;819669]For what it is worth, I read [URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2011/jul/20/right-tackle-ryan-harris-warm-redskins-reunion-sha/"]an article[/URL] in which Harris seemed to be very positive about coming to work with Shanny again but was concerned about an opportunity to start, as he was targeting teams clearly in the market for a tackle.[/quote]

I'm not disappointed about missing out on Harris. I wanted him as our fallback option when it looked like Jammal Brown would get paid by another team, but with Brown returning, we do not need Harris. He's also a big injury risk. He knew Mike Shanahan's offense, but he'd be a downgrade from Jammal.

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[quote=Monkeydad;819988]I'm not disappointed about missing out on Harris. I wanted him as our fallback option when it looked like Jammal Brown would get paid by another team, but with Brown returning, we do not need Harris. He's also a big injury risk. He knew Mike Shanahan's offense, but he'd be a downgrade from Jammal.[/quote]

Yeah, I know, I don't think not getting Harris is a major miss. But he would have made good depth. If he's just a backup, his troublesome injury history is less important.

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[QUOTE] AdamSchefter Adam Schefter

RT @DonteWhitner: Who Dey!!!!
12 minutes ago[/QUOTE]

Looks like Bengals for Whitner.

[QUOTE] AdamSchefter Adam Schefter

As of this morning, there are five teams over the salary cap: OAK $15.25 mil; PITT $8.5m; DET $7.8m; DALLAS $6.7m: HOUSTON $3.25m.

4 hours ago[/QUOTE]

hahaha...Dallas is over.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819979]Looks like the Jets may be signing Derrick Mason and letting Cotchery go. Plax and Mason..that's a curious move[/quote]

I wonder if we'll give cotchery a look...


[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jerricho-cotchery-its-time-to-move-on-from-jets/]Jerricho Cotchery: “It’s time to move on” from Jets | ProFootballTalk[/url]