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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;864175]Not say he's not. LOL Just don't think he's as great as yo think he is.[/quote]


we'll see my man.. I'm so hyped for the draft and its only November... F U redskins!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864177]we'll see my man.. I'm so hyped for the draft and its only November... F U redskins![/quote]

Yes, we will.

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Right now, I just hope the NFC East totally collapses. So long as the Eagles don't win it.

Someone asked Dan Graziano on Twitter yesterday who would win the NFC East if the Cowboys totally collapsed down the stretch. He was like, "Redskins? I don't know." The joys of a one game win streak.

I don't care that the Redskins cant win it, I just want the winner to post an 8 win record, be it the Cowboys or the Giants.

Eagles have no chance and I'd love to win out and win the East but again no chance. I'm sticking w NY @ 10-6 and sweep Dallas (10-6) to get in. Along w GB, NO, SF, CHI and ATL

1. GB
2. SF
3. NO
4. NYG
5. ATL
6. CHI or DET

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[quote=celts32;864049]I would like to see us target one or 2 upgrades to the starters and make the current starters the depth that you are talking about.[/quote]

I agree, this is what I could see them doing. Unlike most others on this board, I would not at all be shocked if the Skins dont draft a QB.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864174][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/960572-landing-spots-for-the-top-50-nfl-free-agents-in-2012]Landing Spots for the Top 50 NFL Free Agents in 2012 | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

This article would be a good starting point for a 2012 Free Agents thread. Would you do the honors of starting it? Then we can talk about which FA's we need to go after. :argue:

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[quote=irish;864187]Unlike most others on this board, I would not at all be shocked if the Skins dont draft a QB.[/quote]

Here's what will happen if they don't draft a QB: :hitfan:

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[quote=irish;864187]I agree, this is what I could see them doing. Unlike most others on this board, I would not at all be shocked if the Skins dont draft a QB.[/quote]

Count me in as one of the "others on this board." While we're at it, might want to count Danny Boy in w/us too! I'm not saying that Snyder is "meddling" but I could see a pre-draft mtg. between he & Shanny starting like this, "So Mike, who's your favorite QB in this draft?"

The pressure on Shanhan to draft & develop a QB is so high. I hope it doesn't affect his decisions

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;864216]Here's what will happen if they don't draft a QB: :hitfan:[/quote]

Amen

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864174][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/960572-landing-spots-for-the-top-50-nfl-free-agents-in-2012]Landing Spots for the Top 50 NFL Free Agents in 2012 | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

"42. Carlos Rogers (DB-49ers)—Rogers has given the green light for his agent to negotiate a long-term deal with the 49ers. San Francisco needs to step up on this deal. Pro Football Focus has Rogers as the No. 2 cornerback in the league behind Darrelle Revis. Arizona needs to swoop in if the 49ers balk at Rogers."

Really?!?! #2?!?!? WOW....

^ yeah I Lold when I saw that

Yeah KI I'll start one soon

As for Luck
[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/30/stanfords-coach-talks-up-andrew-luck-for-the-2012-nfl-draft/[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864243]Yeah KI I'll start one soon

As for Luck
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/30/stanfords-coach-talks-up-andrew-luck-for-the-2012-nfl-draft/]Stanford’s coach talks up Andrew Luck for the 2012 NFL draft | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Good, now if all the other prospects come out too we will have a shot to get one of them....

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[quote=freddyg12;864221]Count me in as one of the "others on this board." While we're at it, might want to count Danny Boy in w/us too! I'm not saying that Snyder is "meddling" but I could see a pre-draft mtg. between he & Shanny starting like this, "So Mike, who's your favorite QB in this draft?"

The pressure on Shanhan to draft & develop a QB is so high. I hope it doesn't affect his decisions[/quote]

The pressure is on Shanny to win not draft certain players.

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i say luck is coming out and only either RGIII or Barkley, not both. and im not interested in landry jones regardless. we need RGII or Barkley

Even though I'm a OU fan I'm very shaky about Landry jones he's a cool ass dude and a class act but on the field his decision making is crazy at times.. I want us to try hard to trade up to 1.. I really think Luck would make us a 9 win team next yr

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[quote=skinsfaninok;864254]Even though I'm a OU fan I'm very shaky about Landry jones he's a cool ass dude and a class act but on the field his decision making is crazy at times.. I want us to try hard to trade up to 1.. I really think Luck would make us a 9 win team next yr[/quote]

Do yourself a favor and stop hoping that we'll somehow be able to trade for Luck. You'll be greatly disappointed.

The Colts have been secretly (if obviously) "sucking for Luck" for most of the season. He is the perfect successor to Peyton Manning, either now or later. It's a damned disgrace, if you ask me. They are just now making the change from Painter to Orlovsky (as if that will help any). When the Colts passed on picking up Orton on waivers, that should have told you all you needed to know about their intentions.

I'm sure you know more about Landry than I do, but I like him as a prospect. He may be inconsistent at times, but he has big-time talent. Sometimes I think that the reason OU fans knock him is because he's not Sam Bradford. Well, he can't help that - but he can work to improve once he gets to the pros.

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I know KI but theres always HOPE lol

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If I had to guess right now, RGIII would be the QB for Washington come next fall.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;864286]If I had to guess right now, RGIII would be the QB for Washington come next fall.[/quote]

Barkley. USC. Trade up over Miami to get him. Watch. Money in the bank.

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I think the Colts strategy is genius. Sure Manning may come back for awhile and perform at a high level, and he will be able to mentor Luck during that time and ready him for the big stage.

It's too bad our coaching staff doesn't have this kind of foresight. It seems like we're "reactive" to circumstances rather than proactive...

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[quote=SkinzWin;864288]Barkley. USC. Trade up over Miami to get him. Watch. Money in the bank.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind having either one, but as of right now, I think RGIII is the guy.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;864286]If I had to guess right now, RGIII would be the QB for Washington come next fall.[/quote]


I'd take any of the 3 honestly, I just think Luck is the safest bet

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The more i watch barkley play, the more I want the skins to do whatever it takes to draft him. I hope we can snag him just with our pick, but we might have to give up a pick to move up. The guy is as good as any i have seen come out in 7 or 8 years, imho.

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I dont ever think there is a safe bet but I would be happy with either of the 3 also.

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I say if P. Manning is released, we sign him and draft a QB he can teach. Just my 2 cents. As far as drafting a QB I do not know enough about what qualities MS wants in a QB to even speculate as to where or who we should draft at that position.

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No chance Manning is cut

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The problem with both Barkley and RGIII is that either or both of them may stay in school one more year.

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Ya never know bud. I am not staking my claim that it will happen just throwing out the possibility. It is the NFL you never know what the hell these guys are going to do. If I were the owner/gm of the Colts, I don't cut him or even trade him till he retires.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;864300]I say if P. Manning is released, we sign him and draft a QB he can teach. Just my 2 cents. As far as drafting a QB I do not know enough about what qualities MS wants in a QB to even speculate as to where or who we should draft at that position.[/quote]
Well i am all for signing him, even if he has to play with a cane. As far as teaching, he looks like a bad teacher, just look at Curtis Painter.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;864304]Well i am all for signing him, even if he has to play with a cane. As far as teaching, he looks like a bad teacher, just look at Curtis Painter.[/quote]

Wisdom of teaching can only go as far as physical ability can take you. A 1st round QB draftee will have a much higher physical skill set than Curtis Painter.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;864267]Do yourself a favor and stop hoping that we'll somehow be able to trade for Luck. You'll be greatly disappointed.

[B]The Colts have been secretly (if obviously) "sucking for Luck" for most of the season.[/B] He is the perfect successor to Peyton Manning, either now or later. It's a damned disgrace, if you ask me. They are just now making the change from Painter to Orlovsky (as if that will help any). When the Colts passed on picking up Orton on waivers, that should have told you all you needed to know about their intentions.

I'm sure you know more about Landry than I do, but I like him as a prospect. He may be inconsistent at times, but he has big-time talent. Sometimes I think that the reason OU fans knock him is because he's not Sam Bradford. Well, he can't help that - but he can work to improve once he gets to the pros.[/quote]

I'm sure Jim Caldwell will be asked that as he is sitting at home during the nfl draft w/out a job.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;864148]I would not give that up, IMO Barkley will be just as good as Luck. Luck is just more athletic. I say stay where we end up. If Barkley or RGIII falls to us pull the trigger, if not, Mo Claiborne or Trent Richardson would look good in a Skins jersey.[/quote]

I don't want the Redskins to trade up in the Draft. We have other holes to fill and it will be nice having 2 extra picks this year.

I am with you on this. If when we pick Luck, Barkley, or RGIII is not availaible Claiborne is at the top of my list. He would be # 1, Hall # 2, Wilson # 3, that would be a solid group of cb's. I also agree you on Richardson too, I believe I have him at 9th on my top 10 Redskins big board. He can fit any system he is a beast. Helu is looking awesome but in this day and age a lot of teams have 2 good rbs that rotate in and Richardson is talented.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;864308]I don't want the Redskins to trade up in the Draft. We have other holes to fill and it will be nice having 2 extra picks this year.

I am with you on this. If when we pick Luck, Barkley, or RGIII is not availaible Claiborne is at the top of my list. He would be # 1, Hall # 2, Wilson # 3, that would be a solid group of cb's. I also agree you on Richardson too, I believe I have him at 9th on my top 10 Redskins big board. He can fit any system he is a beast. Helu is looking awesome but in this day and age a lot of teams have 2 good rbs that rotate in and Richardson is talented.[/quote]
We have had alot of holes for 20 years. We need a Qb. When you have a good QB holes become miraculously filled. We need to fill holes with mid level free agents, like Ozzy Newsome does every year, so he can go into the draft and do what he wants.

[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;864325]We have had alot of holes for 20 years. We need a Qb. When you have a good QB holes become miraculously filled. We need to fill holes with mid level free agents, like Ozzy Newsome does every year, so he can go into the draft and do what he wants.[/QUOTE]

Agree 100% I'm tired of hearing of all the holes we need to fill Before we take a QB. Time is now

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I do want a quarterback. I said draft Luck, Barkley or RGIII if they are availaible.

But to trade into the top 3 would take a lot of draft choices, and I hate when teams trade away their next year's first round draft choice. This QB class is pretty deep and we could get a guy like Foles, Tanehill, etc. etc. in the 2nd round without giving away tons of our picks.

[QUOTE=The Goat;864289]I think the Colts strategy is genius. Sure Manning may come back for awhile and perform at a high level, and he will be able to mentor Luck during that time and ready him for the big stage.

It's too bad our coaching staff doesn't have this kind of foresight. It seems like we're "reactive" to circumstances rather than proactive...[/QUOTE]

What foresight is that?

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[quote=SmootSmack;864355]What foresight is that?[/quote]

The foresight to plan Peyton Manning's neck injury to occur right before the season in which the best pro-prospect (who could have gone pro a year ago, after Manning's neck issue was already present) since Elway is going to be #1 overall. Come on Smoot. 2 days away from ESPN and you're already behind on this stuff? ;)

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I'm such an outsider now :(

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;864340]I do want a quarterback. I said draft Luck, Barkley or RGIII if they are availaible.

But to trade into the top 3 would take a lot of draft choices, and I hate when teams trade away their next year's first round draft choice. This QB class is pretty deep and we could get a guy like Foles, Tanehill, etc. etc. in the 2nd round without giving away tons of our picks.[/quote]
My guess would be next years first and this years second to move from 6 to 2. It would be worth it to get Barkely. We will be fine, if he pans out. Just look at the Bears, with Cutler. NFC championship and gave a kings ranson for him. Our team right now would have been 10-6 if we had a real QB. We have a 1,2,3,4,4,5,6,6,7, for 2012 and for 2013 we have 1,2,3,4,5,5,6,6,7. Not sure if we have to give the Cardinals anything for Hightower. We would still be able to add a bunch of quality rookies. They would be able to help plenty if they keep drafting like they have the last two years. Riley, Williams(very underrated by Redskins fans), Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, Paul, Gomes, Nield and Hurt. I give them a A plus. So I say get us a QB. Get us Barkley, he is 21.