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[quote=KI Skins Fan;873038][B]We draft 6th. How do you figure that Blackmon would get past Minnesota, Cleveland, and Tampa?[/B] I think we'd have to move up to get him but the teams ahead of us would have little incentive to trade down with great players on the board.

If I were Minnesota, I'd stay where I am in the draft and take Blackmon after St. Louis takes Kalil (who I also think would be a great pick for St. Louis). Ponder needs Blackmon.

I expect the Skins to try to sign either Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe in Free Agency.[/quote]

I don't figure anything. I'm just saying if those teams gobbled up Luck and RG III, maybe somehow the Redskins would get lucky and land Blackmon. There's a mock draft having us drafting him, but I also see mock drafts with us drafting RG III. I don't think the teams would necessarily have little incentives in trading down. As matter of fact, they probably wouldn't have to trade down very far to pick up extra draft picks AND still land their guy. Trust me, I have a feeling there's going to be plenty incentives in trading those picks down.

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[quote=44Deezel;873062]I agree. The Skins are a good QB and bonafide #1 WR away from being a serious threat on Offense. Don't forget the wide receiver talent available in free agency. I wouldn't mind seeing Dwayne Bowe in the maroon and black;). If Cleveland makes a run at Flynn, RGIII could drop to 6.[/quote]

LOL! I love it, maroon and black! ;)

This is one free agency where I don't mind the Redskins going a little crazy. If they don't somehow get lucky and draft someone like Blackmon, landing a guy like Dwayne Bowe would be great. I can't believe KC would be willing to give up someone like him though.

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I'm seeing a lot of mock drafts that have the Redskins picking Trent Richardson at #6. I understand he's a beast at RB, but I just don't get why the Redskins would use their top pick to draft yet another RB? I'm failing to see the logic in that!

I've seen some other mock drafts with the 'skins taking either Justin Blackmon or Alshon Jeffery. One that seems the most believable to me would the be the Redskins drafting DE Quinton Coples, although I think he comes from a 4-3 system from UNC.

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[quote=skinsguy;873102]I'm seeing a lot of mock drafts that have the [B]Redskins picking Trent Richardson at #6[/B]. I understand he's a beast at RB, but I just don't get why the Redskins would use their top pick to draft yet another RB? I'm failing to see the logic in that!

I've seen some other mock drafts with the 'skins taking either Justin Blackmon or Alshon Jeffery. One that seems the most believable to me would the be the Redskins drafting DE Quinton Coples, although I think he comes from a 4-3 system from UNC.[/quote]

Boy I hope we don't do that. We've got two young guys that have proven that they can get the job done. Besides some of the top teams with the best offenses...New Orleans, New England and Green Bay don't have a true stud at RB. They have great QB's and that's where the focus should be.

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We're not taking a RB at #6, that's just ridiculous

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Just throwing this out there, but if I am the Redskins looking to get a true #1 WR in the 1st round of the draft I would take Alshon Jeffery WR- South Carolina. This kid is a bonafide #1 with as many plakmaking abilities as ANY WR in the draft. He is also a good kid without any baggage. Just my 2cents.

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[quote=skinsguy;873102]I'm seeing a lot of mock drafts that have the Redskins picking Trent Richardson at #6. I understand he's a beast at RB, but I just don't get why the Redskins would use their top pick to draft yet another RB? I'm failing to see the logic in that!

I've seen some other mock drafts with the 'skins taking either Justin Blackmon or Alshon Jeffery. One that seems the most believable to me would the be the Redskins drafting DE Quinton Coples, although I think he comes from a 4-3 system from UNC.[/quote]

not going to happen, especially with the two young guys on our roster, and shannys tendency to turn gold out of complete shit in the draft, at least as far as later round RB prospects. Too many holes on this team to use our HIGHEST pick on a position where there is supposed young blood and strength already on the roster locked up. It will be used ON a quarterback, or in a deal to GET our quarterback. Sorry, but Mike Shanahan does not have 9 lives, and he needs to get the young guy in here and hitch his career to him. Time is running out for him to show promise at the QB position. He HAS to make a move.

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There are 4 guys I can see snapping the ball for us next year.

#1 - Sam Bradford
#2 - Nick Foles
#3 - R. Tannehill
#4 - M. Flynn

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I feel good about the options the team will have this offseason. I'm a bit unsure about the outcome of this offseason though.

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[quote=SkinzWin;873076]1 Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2 St. Louis Rams: Matt Kalil, OT, USC
3 Minnesota Vikings: Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State
4 Cleveland Browns: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6 Washington Redskins: Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
7 Jacksonville Jaguars: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina
8 Miami Dolphins: Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
9 Carolina Panthers: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
10 Buffalo Bills: Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
11 Kansas City Chiefs: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
12 Seattle Seahawks: Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
13 Arizona Cardinals: Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College
14 Dallas Cowboys: David DeCastro, G, Stanford
15 Philadelphia Eagles: Devon Still, DE/DT, Penn State
16 New York Jets: Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Alabama
17 Cincinnati Bengals: Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
18 San Diego Chargers: Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC
19 Chicago Bears: Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
20 Tennessee Titans: Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
21 Denver Broncos: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
22 Cincinnati Bengals: Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia
23 Cleveland Browns: Kendall Wright, WR/KR, Baylor
24 Detroit Lions: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
25 New York Giants: Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
26 Houston Texans: Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
27 Pittsburgh Steelers: Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
28 San Francisco 49ers: Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
29 Baltimore Ravens: Vontaze Burfict, ILB, Arizona State
30 New England Patriots: Whitney Mercilus, DE/OLB, Illinois
31 New England Patriots: Jerel Worthy, DE/DT, Michigan State
32 Green Bay Packers: Fletcher Cox, DE/DT, Mississippi State[/quote]

Nice job, Skinzwin! If there are no trades in the Top 6, I can envision the picks going just as you have them.

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[quote=Mechanix544;873136]There are 4 guys I can see snapping the ball for us next year.

#1 - Sam Bradford
#2 - Nick Foles
#3 - R. Tannehill
#4 - M. Flynn[/quote]

2-4 are very likely 1, RG3 less likely. Luck sadly isn't going to happen.

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[quote=Mechanix544;873136]There are 4 guys I can see snapping the ball for us next year.

#1 - Sam Bradford
#2 - Nick Foles
#3 - R. Tannehill
#4 - M. Flynn[/quote]

Add jones to that list.

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If Claiborne or even more so Blackmon falls to #6 and RG3 is off the board, I could see the Bengals trading their two first round picks to us to get either of them. They would instantly have the best outside tandem on Offense or defense.

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[quote=musicmaster45;873145]Add jones to that list.[/quote]

I doubt Jones is comes out. He had a bad year.

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Guys, can we use our brains? Sam Bradford will not be traded. That offense is about to lose Lloyd and will eventually have nobody to throw too, RG3 is going to go through the same problems. Oh, and if they don't get a tackle, even a guy like Big Ben wouldn't last through it.

They have a franchise quarterback until proven otherwise, they have NO RECEIVERS, and have NO TACKLES. Rodger Saffold had his career year as a rookie, this guy was essentially welcoming anyone to his quarterback this season.

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Don't count us out of the Andrew Luck running just yet

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1001915-washington-redskins-andrew-luck-is-worth-three-first-round-draft-picks]Washington Redskins: Andrew Luck Is Worth 3 First-Round Draft Picks | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;873157]Don't count us out of the Andrew Luck running just yet

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1001915-washington-redskins-andrew-luck-is-worth-three-first-round-draft-picks]Washington Redskins: Andrew Luck Is Worth 3 First-Round Draft Picks | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

I see you found my article. I'd still give up 3 first rounders for him. I just don't think Indy wants to give up Andrew Luck though...

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[quote=skinsfaninok;873157]Don't count us out of the Andrew Luck running just yet

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1001915-washington-redskins-andrew-luck-is-worth-three-first-round-draft-picks]Washington Redskins: Andrew Luck Is Worth 3 First-Round Draft Picks | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Really? An article stating that we should be willing to move up to take Andrew Luck? I thought it was gonna be evidence stating that the Redskins might be willing to move up to grab him. :doh:

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[quote=mooby;873183]Really? An article stating that we should be willing to move up to take Andrew Luck? I thought it was gonna be evidence stating that the Redskins might be willing to move up to grab him. :doh:[/quote]

Oh Bleacher report, you try so hard.

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[quote=NM Redskin;873199]Oh Bleacher report, you try so hard.[/quote]

That was just about my reaction when I noticed it was from bleacher report. I was all excited and then within an instant entirely crushed.

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[quote=Mattyk;872945]Agreed. Developing a rookie QB buys Shanahan more time.[/quote]I would have thought that [I]last[/I] year.

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Unless 2012 is a complete disaster, I just don't think Snyder wants to go that route again just yet, and I don't think most fans want that either.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;873157]Don't count us out of the Andrew Luck running just yet

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1001915-washington-redskins-andrew-luck-is-worth-three-first-round-draft-picks"]Washington Redskins: Andrew Luck Is Worth 3 First-Round Draft Picks | Bleacher Report[/URL][/quote]

No thanks. Too steep of a price. These guys that we have in the FO and scouting need to find some diamonds in the rough. We need to find the next Drew Brees. Or Tom Brady. Or Kurt Warner.

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[quote=skinsfan69;873204]No thanks. Too steep of a price. These guys that we have in the FO and scouting need to find some diamonds in the rough. We need to find the next Drew Brees. Or Tom Brady. Or Kurt Warner.[/quote]
I think that's what they will think as well and I agree.......

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Trent Richardson is impossible to take down. Look at these high schoolers as they fail time after time.
[YT]L0HWgNWsd38[/YT]

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Brees was a top round pick. Not exactly a diamond in the rough :)

I'll give you Brady and Warner. Those guys dont come around often though and I see more as dumb luck then great scouting. Warner was cut before he got the starting nod when Green went down for the Rams.

Just give me a playmaker at 6 and I will be happy or turn the pick into a playmaker and someone else, just keep building the team.

BTW I don't want MS gone till we have given him all the time HE needs to get it right.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;873206]Trent Richardson is impossible to take down. Look at these high schoolers as they fail time after time.
[YT]L0HWgNWsd38[/YT][/quote]

Seen that video before. Obviously they need to use a sledgehammer HHH style.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;873211]Brees was a top round pick. Not exactly a diamond in the rough :)

I'll give you Brady and Warner. Those guys dont come around often though and I see more as dumb luck then great scouting. Warner was cut before he got the starting nod when Green went down for the Rams.

Just give me a playmaker at 6 and I will be happy or turn the pick into a playmaker and someone else, just keep building the team.

BTW I don't want MS gone till we have given him all the time HE needs to get it right.[/quote]

Wasn't Brees a second rounder? Or late first? Either way, he's going into the hall of fame and wasn't the first QB taken in the draft. San Diego even gave up on him and drafted Rivers. Dumbasses!

I'll never forget the day we lost the Drew Brews sweepstakes to New Orleans. Oh wait, we never even tried. I forgot.

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[quote=Mechanix544;872124]So, since the order has been decided, what are we going to do? Drop in the first, pick up picks, grab a cb in the first, foles in the second and try to stockpile?

Move up to number 3 and snag RG3?

Trade a 3rd and a TE for Sanchez, and use the first pick on Blackmon, and the second rounder on BPA?

Trade down a couple times, stockpile picks, and then start filling needs with BPA with our stockpile? (we know shanahan can do this, and can evaluate talent pretty well......)

So........since the order is set in stone, and kids are declaring, and the NFL wheels keep on rollin', what do you want to happen, or what do you think will happen?[/quote]

I see Mike Shanahan proceeding one of two ways: he can either trade up to draft RG3 assuming that the Colts draft Luck, or draft Luck if the Colts draft RG3. Or Shanahan and Bruce Allen can sign Matt Flynn in free agency and keep all of their draft picks. They can use their picks to stockpile like they did during last April's draft, or just stay put in each round and draft out according to team needs.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;873230]I see Mike Shanahan proceeding one of two ways: he can either trade up to draft RG3 assuming that the Colts draft Luck, or draft Luck if the Colts draft RG3. Or Shanahan and Bruce Allen can sign Matt Flynn in free agency and keep all of their draft picks. They can use their picks to stockpile like they did during last April's draft, or just stay put in each round and draft out according to team needs.[/quote]

I like the idea of grabbing Flynn and trading back for more picks. Even with Flynn, I wouldn't rule out grabbing another QB in the draft, even in the early rounds. Going into next year with Flynn, Grossman and a rookie QB drafted in the first or second round sounds good to me.

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Hot off the presses. I know it's Bleacher Report, but I can't get enough of the speculation on what the Skins will do in the off-season:

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1009246-2012-nfl-mock-draft-washington-redskins-7-round-predictions]2012 NFL Mock Draft: Washington Redskins 7-Round Predictions | Bleacher Report[/url]

Anyone know anything about WR Damarlo Belcher from Indiana? Pre-season Biletnikoff watch list, but then got dismissed from the team? Dude is 6'5 213 LBS. Could be available in the late rounds or in free agency?

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Never heard of him, but if the 'skins could land him as an undrafted free agent, I would definitely be on board.

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[quote=44Deezel;873279]Hot off the presses. I know it's Bleacher Report, but I can't get enough of the speculation on what the Skins will do in the off-season:

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1009246-2012-nfl-mock-draft-washington-redskins-7-round-predictions]2012 NFL Mock Draft: Washington Redskins 7-Round Predictions | Bleacher Report[/url]

Anyone know anything about WR Damarlo Belcher from Indiana? Pre-season Biletnikoff watch list, but then got dismissed from the team? Dude is 6'5 213 LBS. Could be available in the late rounds or in free agency?[/quote]

The author says that the Skins will trade their 2nd and 4th round picks this year to move up and then he makes picks for those rounds. How is that possible?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;873290]The author says that the Skins will trade their 2nd and 4th round picks this year to move up and then he makes picks for those rounds. How is that possible?[/quote]

Not sure about the 2nd but we do have two 4th round picks this year.

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[quote=skinster;872536]For any team that is need of a qb, the qb is always the number 1 need.[/quote]

That is the most awesome thing I have ever read. Im actually crying right now.........

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;873290]The author says that the Skins will trade their 2nd and 4th round picks this year to move up and then he makes picks for those rounds. How is that possible?[/quote]

It's magic! :oink:

Re: And with the 6th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the redskins select...........
 

[quote=44Deezel;873279]Hot off the presses. I know it's Bleacher Report, but I can't get enough of the speculation on what the Skins will do in the off-season:

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1009246-2012-nfl-mock-draft-washington-redskins-7-round-predictions]2012 NFL Mock Draft: Washington Redskins 7-Round Predictions | Bleacher Report[/url]

Anyone know anything about WR Damarlo Belcher from Indiana? Pre-season Biletnikoff watch list, but then got dismissed from the team? Dude is 6'5 213 LBS. Could be available in the late rounds or in free agency?[/quote]

This is actually one of the better (one of the good?) BR columnists in my opinion.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;873290]The author says that the Skins will trade their 2nd and 4th round picks this year to move up and then he makes picks for those rounds. How is that possible?[/quote]

I think he ment this years 1st and 4th round & next years 2nd round.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;873313]I think he ment this years 1st and 4th round & next years 2nd round.[/quote]

Just using ye olde NFL Draft Pick Value Chart tells me that to move from #6 to #2 would cost 1,000 points. That would require the Skins to pay their 2nd round and one of their 4th round picks this year plus a 2nd round pick next year. That would be the best case scenario for the Skins.

But I think the Skins would be in a bidding war to select RGIII with the #2 pick and so it would cost more than that to move up.

Bottom line: I don't think the author's draft scenario is realistic regarding the number of picks we would have after moving up. I also think that he assumed too much about good players falling to us in later rounds. He should try again.

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You are right, if you go by the point scale then we would have to give up more picks.