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[quote=NC_Skins;922179]Insanity. Doing the same crap over and over expecting different results. Still after all these years of stupid trades and pissing away our draft picks, it amazes me how Skin fans can even mention "trade" anymore without having a flashback to all the stupid crap our organization has done the past decade.


So without any first rounders the next 2 years, you want to also give up 2 second rounders as well. :doh: Between you and The Goat, I don't know which of you I want to knee in the nuts more.[/quote]

Before you give me the soccer kick to the family jewels, let me catch you offguard by saying I agree!

Seriously, I hate as much as you all do when people mention ridiculous trade ideas or FA signings that you know won't pan out cause of many factors (old, was in a contract year, etc, )


The reason why I mentioned Percy is he is a very, very good slot WR, something which we don't have. He is very young (24). He is very fast and physical. He can also run the ball which gives us another demention. I feel like for a first..NO. For a second, thats one that would sting, but pay off. For a 3rd, I'd do it without hesitation. It was a good thought earlier about having him on our team.

EDIT: After I posted that I read that Percy threw a weight at Brad Childress. So now I wouldn't give up anything more than a 3rd which isn't much for a player of his caliber. The Childress thing is wishy washy and every player seemed to hate him... but yeah.

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[quote=mbedner3420;922105]Percy Harvin is seeking a trade out of Minnesota... I kinda wonder how much it would cost? (Presumably too much for us, anyway.)[/quote]

If he's traded, he may be playing against us.

[url=http://www.rantsports.com/dallas-cowboys/2012/06/20/nfl-rumors-dallas-cowboys-could-trade-for-minnesota-vikings-percy-harvin/]NFL Rumors: Dallas Cowboys Interested in Trading for Percy Harvin : Dallas Cowboys[/url]

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Nice being on the outside looking in at overall dysfunction
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/20/fights-break-out-at-dolphins-minicamp/]Fights break out at Dolphins’ minicamp | ProFootballTalk[/url]


[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;922248]If he's traded, he may be playing against us.

[url=http://www.rantsports.com/dallas-cowboys/2012/06/20/nfl-rumors-dallas-cowboys-could-trade-for-minnesota-vikings-percy-harvin/]NFL Rumors: Dallas Cowboys Interested in Trading for Percy Harvin : Dallas Cowboys[/url][/QUOTE]


Because theres no better way to shore up your (Dallas) secondary then trading for a gadget player on offense?

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;922248]If he's traded, he may be playing against us.

[url=http://www.rantsports.com/dallas-cowboys/2012/06/20/nfl-rumors-dallas-cowboys-could-trade-for-minnesota-vikings-percy-harvin/]NFL Rumors: Dallas Cowboys Interested in Trading for Percy Harvin : Dallas Cowboys[/url][/QUOTE]

Why would Dallas?? They are loaded at wr

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[quote=skinsfaninok;922258]Why would Dallas?? They are loaded at wr[/quote]

Maybe they are upset about losing Laurent Robinson... Not that I think Percy is as good as Laurent. Because he's not.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;922258]Why would Dallas?? They are loaded at wr[/quote]

Because Jerrah is obsessed with offensive skill players to the detriment of the rest of the team?

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What I've been told, Vikings aren't going to trade him.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;922248]If he's traded, he may be playing against us.

[url=http://www.rantsports.com/dallas-cowboys/2012/06/20/nfl-rumors-dallas-cowboys-could-trade-for-minnesota-vikings-percy-harvin/]NFL Rumors: Dallas Cowboys Interested in Trading for Percy Harvin : Dallas Cowboys[/url][/quote]

The Vikings would be smart to just give Harvin a new contract. To trade him away to Dallas wouldn't be wise because Dallas would get the better of that trade regardless of what they gave Minnesota in return.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;922302]The Vikings would be smart to just give Harvin a new contract. To trade him away to Dallas wouldn't be wise because Dallas would get the better of that trade regardless of what they gave Minnesota in return.[/quote]

So if Dallas gave Minny 3 first round picks, Miles Austin, and Morris Claiborne for Percy Harvin it'd be safe to declare them the winners of that trade?

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[quote=mooby;922307]So if Dallas gave Minny 3 first round picks, Miles Austin, and Morris Claiborne for Percy Harvin it'd be safe to declare them the winners of that trade?[/quote]

That would be an insane trade. Minnesota does need help at CB, so they could trade Percy Harvin to the Cowboys for Michael Jenkins and maybe a second or 3rd round draft pick. I'm just speculating here. I doubt seriously if the Cowboys would part with this years first round draftee Morris Claiborne.

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As said before, don't see it happening, but would Minnesota actually make a trade with Dallas after the Herschel Walker Trade? LOL.

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[quote=InsaneBoost;922433]As said before, don't see it happening, but would Minnesota actually make a trade with Dallas after the Herschel Walker Trade? LOL.[/quote]

That was so long ago. I forgot about that trade. I think the Vikings and Cowboys making a deal to exchange Percy Harvin for Mike Jenkins is an even trade.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;922434]That was so long ago. I forgot about that trade. [B]I think the Vikings and Cowboys making a deal to exchange Percy Harvin for Mike Jenkins is an even trade.[/B][/quote]

No chance. The Boys would have to sweeten the deal with more than Jenkins.

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[quote=mooby;922307]So if Dallas gave Minny 3 first round picks, Miles Austin, and Morris Claiborne for Percy Harvin it'd be safe to declare them the winners of that trade?[/quote]

I think he meant a reasonable, actual trade that could happen in real life. Not your Madden trades! ;)

But on second thought, you probably should throw in Mike Jenkins and Brandon Carr just to be safe. :Smoker:

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[quote=SkinzWin;922461]I think he meant a reasonable, actual trade that could happen in real life. Not your Madden trades! ;)

But on second thought, you probably should throw in [B]Mike Jenkins and Brandon Carr [/B]just to be safe. :Smoker:[/quote]

No way, I want those two overrated players to remain in Dallas. I would hate to see a talent like Percy on that team.

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[quote=SkinzWin;922461]I think he meant a reasonable, actual trade that could happen in real life. Not your Madden trades! ;)

But on second thought, you probably should throw in Mike Jenkins and Brandon Carr just to be safe. :Smoker:[/quote]

Hey, he's the one who said no matter what the Cowboys gave up to get Harvin, they'd be the winners of that trade. I was just providing an example of what that could mean.

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Sounds like Rex Ryan doesn't plan on Landry starting this season. Might be able to if he pushes hard, but he won't last. That HGH ruined him. Think he would have learned by now.

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Really looking forward to the Redskins season this year. Cant wait for the fun to begin. I have faith in the team. RGIII is a great addition and future looks bright. Looking for like minded Redskins fans to follow me and I can follow back too @Yackinonabone.

Keep up the good work Warpath and HTTR to all the Redskins fans out there

Mucho respect from the UK!!!!!

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[quote=yackinonabone;922642]Really looking forward to the Redskins season this year. Cant wait for the fun to begin. I have faith in the team. RGIII is a great addition and future looks bright. Looking for like minded Redskins fans to follow me and I can follow back too @Yackinonabone.

Keep up the good work Warpath and HTTR to all the Redskins fans out there

Mucho respect from the UK!!!!![/quote]

Best user name ever.

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[quote=mooby;922485]Hey, he's the one who said no matter what the Cowboys gave up to get Harvin, they'd be the winners of that trade. I was just providing an example of what that could mean.[/quote]

I know. Just messin'....

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It's cool.

Anyways...

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/miami-dolphins-ipad-playbooks-to-fine-players-for-unauthorized-website-surfing-062412]Report: Dolphins to fine players for 'unauthorized' iPad surfing - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

Since the Dolphins are transitioning to using Ipads for playbooks, shouldn't they just install a filter to block any unauthorized websites instead of asking players to refrain from visiting websites?

Also can anybody in the know tell me if the Redskins have transitioned to using Ipads for playbooks yet? That seems like a smart idea, it would eliminate a lot of paper, and I think it would make it easier on the players to study diagrams, learn individual details, etc. better than looking at plays on paper would.

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I don't know, though Snyder is the co-chair of the NFL digital media committee so it's possible

Meanwhile,....

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/hiestand-tv/story/2012-06-24/new-nfl-network-morning-show-roll-out/55801496/1]Hiestand: NFL Network show for early birds – USATODAY.com[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;922643]Best user name ever.[/quote]

Be careful, in the UK, it could mean something totally different.

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[quote=SmootSmack;922654]I don't know, though Snyder is the co-chair of the NFL digital media committee so it's possible

Meanwhile,....

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/hiestand-tv/story/2012-06-24/new-nfl-network-morning-show-roll-out/55801496/1]Hiestand: NFL Network show for early birds – USATODAY.com[/url][/quote]

Morning talk show, huh... I hear Ann Curry is available.

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[quote=mbedner3420;922697]Morning talk show, huh... I hear Ann Curry is available.[/quote]

That would be just as horrible an idea as putting Keith Olbermann on SNF pre-game. Politics and football do not mix.

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[quote=mooby;922710]That would be just as horrible an idea as putting Keith Olbermann on SNF pre-game. Politics and football do not mix.[/quote]

I agree. I just think it is funny they are firing her and blaming her for all of their problems. NBC is clearly looking for a scapegoat for their slumping ratings.

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[quote=mbedner3420;922711]I agree. I just think it is funny they are firing her and blaming her for all of their problems. NBC is clearly looking for a scapegoat for their slumping ratings.[/quote]

Yeah. Ann Curry rulz. Foolish move by NBC.

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[quote=mbedner3420;922711]I agree. I just think it is funny they are firing her and blaming her for all of their problems. [B]NBC is clearly looking for a scapegoat for their slumping ratings[/B].[/quote]

Yet they give Matt Lauer $20-$30 some million a year...ridiculous

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This is why I'm continually reminded that my stance of "the NFL owners are greedy douche bags" will continue to be valid.



[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/19405052/report-colts-andrew-luck-hung-up-on-contract-over-marketing-opportunities]Report: Colts, Andrew Luck hung up on contract over marketing opportunities - CBSSports.com[/url]



[quote]Instead, it's about how much Luck can make with marketing deals. As Pasquarelli writes, “One of the stumbling blocks in negotiations between Indianapolis and the top overall choice in the draft ... is the proposed inclusion of marketing language that Luck and his representatives, at least so far, regard as strident. One source with knowledge of the talks even suggested that Luck would ‘have to clear' marketing proposals with the club.”[/quote]


..and NO, I don't believe Jim Irsay's tweets denying this. You'd think the owners would just sign the ****ing contract once they were absolved from having to pay these huge sums of money to rookies. Now that they got that, they want MORE. They are going to run this game into the ground.

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[quote=NC_Skins;922875]This is why I'm continually reminded that my stance of "the NFL owners are greedy douche bags" will continue to be valid.



[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/19405052/report-colts-andrew-luck-hung-up-on-contract-over-marketing-opportunities]Report: Colts, Andrew Luck hung up on contract over marketing opportunities - CBSSports.com[/url]






..and NO, I don't believe Jim Irsay's tweets denying this. You'd think the owners would just sign the ****ing contract once they were absolved from having to pay these huge sums of money to rookies. Now that they got that, they want MORE. They are going to run this game into the ground.[/quote] what kind of say do owners and the league have with any player endorsements and marketing?

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[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/6/28/3123267/nfl-kickoff-times-afternoon]Afternoon NFL Kickoff Times Will Be Moved Back - From Our Editors - SBNation.com[/url]

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Heres my life story...[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/06/26/colt-brennan/index.html?sct=nfl_t12_a0]Colt Brennan's holding onto NFL dream despite rollercoaster ride - NFL - SI.com[/url]

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Not an addiction you hear about too often

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8108006/quinn-pitcock-video-game-addiction-masked-deeper-issues]Quinn Pitcock's video game addiction masked deeper issues - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=HailGreen28;922893]what kind of say do owners and the league have with any player endorsements and marketing?[/quote]whatever they can negotiate into the player's contract. Luck has good representation, he won't sign with that language in the deal.

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Not sure if it matters for Luck -- doesn't look like he has much personality anyway. No matter how much Luck wins, I'd bet RG3 makes 10 times as much in endorsements. Kind of like Brady / Manning. Brady has played in more Super Bowls, but Manning has been in more Super Bowl commercials.

Personality:
RG3 >> Luck
P.Manning >> Brady

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[quote=SmootSmack;923095]Not an addiction you hear about too often

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8108006/quinn-pitcock-video-game-addiction-masked-deeper-issues]Quinn Pitcock's video game addiction masked deeper issues - ESPN[/url][/quote]

You don't hear about it often, but I would say that it's probably a bigger issue than many think.

Glad he got help.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;923095]Not an addiction you hear about too often

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8108006/quinn-pitcock-video-game-addiction-masked-deeper-issues]Quinn Pitcock's video game addiction masked deeper issues - ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]

Honestly there are many gamers out there that will risk a whole lot to keep that fix. Online gaming has really changed our culture

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[quote=CultBrennan59;923086]Heres my life story...[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/06/26/colt-brennan/index.html?sct=nfl_t12_a0]Colt Brennan's holding onto NFL dream despite rollercoaster ride - NFL - SI.com[/url][/quote]

Many felt Colt Brennan was a steal in the 6th round of the 2008 draft for the Redskins. But he ended as another failed prospect draft pick of Vinny Cerratto. Not saying that he still can't make it, but if he was going to amount to something he would be at least a 3rd string QB on an NFL team by now. He came from a WAC conference that didn't have many good defenses. Although his stats were off the charts, it's the lack of competition that he faced that contributed to his success in college. In those regards, Brennan is similar to Case Keenum.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;923144]Many felt Colt Brennan was a steal in the 6th round of the 2008 draft for the Redskins. But he ended as another failed prospect draft pick of Vinny Cerratto. Not saying that he still can't make it, but if he was going to amount to something he would be at least a 3rd string QB on an NFL team by now. He came from a WAC conference that didn't have many good defenses. Although his stats were off the charts, it's the lack of competition that he faced that contributed to his success in college. In those regards, Brennan is similar to Case Keenum.[/quote]

The article said he's 28..same age as Brandon Weeden!

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8111276/nfl-donovan-mcnabb-says-chances-return-80-90-percent]NFL -- Donovan McNabb says chances of return 80-90 percent - ESPN[/url]

[quote]Quarterback Donovan McNabb says there's "an 80 to 90 percent chance" he'll play this season.

"I do want to play," McNabb told "NBC SportsTalk" on Thursday. "The most important thing is I have about three teams I'm looking at. ... We won't name those three teams."[/quote]


I say there is a 99.99999% chance he doesn't end up on a NFL team. Why won't this asshat just go away? I'd rather hear Favre drama than him.