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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;952919]Whoever decided to let RGIII play just one week after a concussion should be fired. Sure, independant doctors cleared him to play, but he shouldnt have played. He had a concussion, and letting him play was reckless and irresponsible. They should have let him sit for an undisclosed number of weeks, just to be sure he's ok. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but its just common sense.[/quote]

LOL! sarcasm at it's finest! I'll have another glass kind sir!

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[quote=calia;952905]RGIII seems to me such a clear choice for MVP at this point (realizing that there's a lot of the season left and anything can happen). Matt Ryan is having a great season, to be sure, but that team has a number of weapons (two great receivers, a very good running back), whereas RGIII is really single-handedly keeping us in games (and winning them). I don't see how there can be a credible case for anyone else -- at least, at this point in the season.[/quote]

If RG3 wins the NFL MVP award as a rookie, that would be so excellent! But there's still 10 games left to go. Matt Ryan is having a great year too. But those people who vote on these things at season's end always look at other factors like team win/loss record and so forth. But RG3 should be considered for MVP if he keeps playing at the level that he's playing at.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;952931]If RG3 wins the NFL MVP award as a rookie, that would be so excellent! But there's still 10 games left to go. Matt Ryan is having a great year too. But those people who vote on these things at season's end always look at other factors like team win/loss record and so forth. But RG3 should be considered for MVP if he keeps playing at the level that he's playing at.[/quote]

Has a rookie qb ever won league mvp before? Rg3 is without a doubt league MVP right now. We'd be 0-6 without him. We were in all 5 games where he played the whole game solely because of him. No player is more valuable to his team right now than rg3 is to the skins.

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One week ago we're headed for another doomed season and our foolish coaching staff is ruining RG3 by playing him against the Vikings...and now he's the MVP!...Awesome

One thing I've noticed with RG3 that I'm sure may come across the wrong way is that he's missing on so many opportunities. And that's a good thing. Because I'm sure he'll capitalize on them soon enough. What I mean is, part of is designed plays and part of is he's simply not seeing some open receivers. I know that the Shanahans are trying to ease him into the NFL to an extent. But when you look at the opportunities he's leaving on the field...his numbers could be even more staggering

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[quote=SmootSmack;953044][B]One week ago we're headed for another doomed season and our foolish coaching staff is ruining RG3 by playing him against the Vikings...and now he's the MVP!...Awesome[/B]

One thing I've noticed with RG3 that I'm sure may come across the wrong way is that he's missing on so many opportunities. And that's a good thing. Because I'm sure he'll capitalize on them soon enough. What I mean is, part of is designed plays and part of is he's simply not seeing some open receivers. I know that the Shanahans are trying to ease him into the NFL to an extent. But when you look at the opportunities he's leaving on the field...his numbers could be even more staggering[/quote]

The mood swings of a redskins fan haha very true

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[quote=SmootSmack;953044]One week ago we're headed for another doomed season and our foolish coaching staff is ruining RG3 by playing him against the Vikings...and now he's the MVP!...Awesome

One thing I've noticed with RG3 that I'm sure may come across the wrong way is that he's missing on so many opportunities. And that's a good thing. Because I'm sure he'll capitalize on them soon enough. What I mean is, part of is designed plays and part of is he's simply not seeing some open receivers. I know that the Shanahans are trying to ease him into the NFL to an extent. But when you look at the opportunities he's leaving on the field...his numbers could be even more staggering[/quote]

I have seen open receivers on some plays and he starts scrambling instead of passing. I was having a conversation with a friend of mine about RG3. We were both gushing about him and I told him that RG3 doesnt even know how to read NFL defenses yet. We both went silent and let that sink in for a minute. He still has a lot of room to improve. Hes already playing great football, and still has plenty to learn.

The good thing is he is learning. I dont know if any of you heard Moss talking about him after this game. He made the comment that his 30 yarder was actually his second window, and that RG3 had never made a second window throw to him before. For those that dont know what second window means. It is when a receiver crosses a zone into an open window but doesnt receive the pass. He then continues his route past some defenders and into a second open window.

IE.. Using a simple crossing pattern as the route. First window would be between the ROLB and the MLB. First window is when he clears the ROLB but before he gets to the MLB. Second window is when he clears the MLB and the new window (the second window) is between the MLB and the LOLB.

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[quote=Skinzman;953050]I have seen open receivers on some plays and he starts scrambling instead of passing. I was having a conversation with a friend of mine about RG3. We were both gushing about him and I told him that RG3 doesnt even know how to read NFL defenses yet. We both went silent and let that sink in for a minute. He still has a lot of room to improve. Hes already playing great football, and still has plenty to learn.

The good thing is he is learning. I dont know if any of you heard Moss talking about him after this game. He made the comment that his 30 yarder was actually his second window, and that RG3 had never made a second window throw to him before. For those that dont know what second window means. It is when a receiver crosses a zone into an open window but doesnt receive the pass. He then continues his route past some defenders and into a second open window.

IE.. Using a simple crossing pattern as the route. First window would be between the ROLB and the MLB. First window is when he clears the ROLB but before he gets to the MLB. Second window is when he clears the MLB and the new window (the second window) is between the MLB and the LOLB.[/quote]

I love theoretical football just as much as the next man. The simple fact is you can't teach speed, heart, nor rapid fire neuron synaptic transversals. He saw an opening, he took it, he scored. 7 points. A receiver was open, but........he is faster than the receiver, he already has the ball (no pass needed). He escorts the ball across the plane....FOOTBALL in it's purest form.. Nerds figured out how to talk their way on to the football field, wahhh, wahhh.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;953051]I love theoretical football just as much as the next man. The simple fact is you can't teach speed, heart, nor rapid fire neuron synaptic transversals. He saw an opening, he took it, he scored. 7 points. A receiver was open, but........he is faster than the receiver, he already has the ball (no pass needed). He escorts the ball across the plane....FOOTBALL in it's purest form.. Nerds figured out how to talk their way on to the football field, wahhh, wahhh.[/quote]

Its in English but I still have to ask.... What?

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76 yard TD run by RG3. The longest run since Kordell Stewart ran 80 yards way back when. Rg3 is the truth.

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I made a bet with a Cowboys fan who had to sit in my living room as I clicked rewind and then play during RG3's 76 yard TD run on my DVR 25 times while I paused the run several times for long-winded narration. My losing option was to go to a bar with a Romo jersey and cheer the Cowboys on when they play the Skins. So glad I won.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;953041]Has a rookie qb ever won league mvp before? Rg3 is without a doubt league MVP right now. We'd be 0-6 without him. We were in all 5 games where he played the whole game solely because of him. No player is more valuable to his team right now than rg3 is to the skins.[/quote]

No. He's not. Matt Ryan would be a MVP winner right now more than anybody. Also, this is the one thing that bothered me about getting RGIII. Fans will overlook anything and put them on a pedestal. RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.

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[quote=SKINS73;953066]I made a bet with a Cowboys fan who had to sit in my living room as I clicked rewind and then play during RG3's 76 yard TD run on my DVR 25 times while I paused the run several times for long-winded narration. My losing option was to go to a bar with a Romo jersey and cheer the Cowboys on when they play the Skins. So glad I won.[/quote]

lol...i think you let the cowboy fan off kinda easy if you had to go down to a bar with a Romeo jersey on. httr

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I see a lot of room for improvement with RGIII - but that's a scary thing to consider since what I have seen from RGIII, so far, has been nothing short of awesome! Once reading defenses become second nature to Griffin, you're going to see this team scoring at will.

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[quote=SKINS73;953066]I made a bet with a Cowboys fan who had to sit in my living room as I clicked rewind and then play during RG3's 76 yard TD run on my DVR 25 times while I paused the run several times for long-winded narration. My losing option was to go to a bar with a Romo jersey and cheer the Cowboys on when they play the Skins. So glad I won.[/quote]

you would have to wear an RG3 jersey under homo and rip it off to reveal ur true self like superman!

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[quote=Meks;953074]you would have to wear an RG3 jersey under homo and rip it off to reveal ur true self like superman![/quote]

Had I lost the Viking's game bet I planned to solicit suggestions from here. All I could come up with was exposing myself to Ebola.

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[quote=NC_Skins;953067]RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.[/quote]

I would add that there are WR drops that can be attributed to poor 3rd down conversion as well as poor blocking on runs.

RGIII is that great. Just wait until the rest of the team catches up.

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He just put up a 97.5 QBR in week 6 (the best in the league for a single game all year) and ranks sixth his total QBR through six games. Guess who is number 7.... Andrew Luck.

RGIII is who this team needed. Thanks Colts for drafting Luck, because this is our guy.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;953067]No. He's not. Matt Ryan would be a MVP winner right now more than anybody. Also, this is the one thing that bothered me about getting RGIII. Fans will overlook anything and put them on a pedestal. [B]RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I for one don't think he has earned a MVP award, though he should be considered, and as far as that third down rating I want you to look at how many third downs he is trying to convert beyond 3rd and 5. That is where we are having problems, is getting a dumb penalty or having a bad run and getting stuck with 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 15. We shoot our selves in foot more often than not at times, and asking a guy to convert something that long on a consistent basis can be difficult.

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His last 40 yards of the 76-yard run was timed at exactly 4.0 seconds...sure he had a running start but he was looking back, slowing down and high-stepping. Amazing.


Source:
[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/oct/15/initial-thoughts-redskins-38-vikings-26/]Initial Thoughts: Redskins 38, Vikings 26 - Washington Times[/url]
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Griffin’s 76-yard touchdown is the stuff of legends. (Read Griffin's description of how he experienced the play.) Such game-changing, explosive plays are why you trade three first-round picks and a second-rounder to move up to draft him. It was special for so many reasons.

First, the speed. Griffin planted his back foot at the Redskins’ 15-yard line. He reached the end zone 10.8 seconds later. That’s a 40-yard dash pace of 4.89 seconds, and he ran laterally to the sideline after breaking the line of scrimmage and then slowed down in the final five yards. But even with the slowdown at the end of the run, [B]he ran the last 60 yards in a straight line in 6.1 seconds and the last 40 yards in 4.0. [/B]That is unreal. “Speed kills” is a cliché because it’s true. With the Redskins teetering on the brink of collapse, Griffin’s speed put the Vikings to the sword.


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[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;953121][QUOTE=NC_Skins;953067]No. He's not. Matt Ryan would be a MVP winner right now more than anybody. Also, this is the one thing that bothered me about getting RGIII. Fans will overlook anything and put them on a pedestal. [B]RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I for one don't think he has earned a MVP award, though he should be considered, and as far as that third down rating I want you to look at how many third downs he is trying to convert beyond 3rd and 5. That is where we are having problems, is getting a dumb penalty or having a bad run and getting stuck with 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 15. We shoot our selves in foot more often than not at times, and asking a guy to convert something that long on a consistent basis can be difficult.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Matt Ryan isnt relegated to the third and longs all the time. Its like how everyone wants to say eli is a great come from behind - fourth quarter qb. Well eli and the gints put themselves in those come from behind positions in the first place. Lol. Also if i could have matt ryan (as a rookie) or rg3 i would take rg3 in a heartbeat. Matt ryan has two of the best wr's and a hell of a team around him.


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[quote=Monkeydad;953136]His last 40 yards of the 76-yard run was timed at exactly 4.0 seconds...sure he had a running start but he was looking back, slowing down and high-stepping. Amazing.


Source:
[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/oct/15/initial-thoughts-redskins-38-vikings-26/"]Initial Thoughts: Redskins 38, Vikings 26 - Washington Times[/URL][/quote]

All while he had a smile from ear to ear. I actually think while RGIII puts in the hard work he still goes out and has fun playing the game of football. I think that helps his play at this point as much as anything. When a QB starts to think too much and starts trying to make plays is when they have more problems. To me it seem RGIII is having the time of his life while also performing on the field.

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Good read.

[url=http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/robert-griffin-touchdown-speed/]Robert Griffin's Speed On Vikings TD Run | SportsGrid[/url]

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;953047]The mood swings of a redskins fan haha very true[/QUOTE]
Every fan base in the world is concerned when their star player gets injured. Every fanbase in the world is elated when their star player wins a game for them. The only thing i notice that is different about redskins fans is that their number one concern seems to be to say "haha i told you so".


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[quote=punch it in;953137][QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;953121]

Exactly. Matt Ryan isnt relegated to the third and longs all the time. Its like how everyone wants to say eli is a great come from behind - fourth quarter qb. Well eli and the gints put themselves in those come from behind positions in the first place. Lol. Also if i could have matt ryan (as a rookie) or rg3 i would take rg3 in a heartbeat. Matt ryan has two of the best wr's and a hell of a team around him.


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I said in another thread talking to Giantone that I would honestly take RG III over any qb in the league to build a team around. He is that good and will be even better in years 5-10 than the rest of the current qb's in the nfl.

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;953180][quote=punch it in;953137]

I said in another thread talking to Giantone that I would honestly take RG III over any qb in the league to build a team around. He is that good and will be even better in years 5-10 than the rest of the current qb's in the nfl.[/QUOTE]

Yup. Never thought last year with rex n beck or for that matter jc, brunell, ramsey, etc etc that i would say it. But i wouldnt trade rg3 for any other qb in the league. No way.
Edit: i mean i never thought i would say i think we have the best qb in football. I still have trouble wrapping my head around it. Lol.

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figured this may be the place for it since this is griff-inspired:

is griff the fastest player on the redskins? do they ever measure them like they measured darrell green in his 40s (get it?)? do they ever race like portis and landry?

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Armstrong WAS our fastest I think.

I'd like to see him and Banks race. I wouldn't bet against RGIII against ANYONE in a race.

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i'm sorry if the term offends anyone, but i think saying someone has "getting away from the cops speed" is both funny and flattering.

i've got hide from the cops speed.

i would love to see a race w griff, banks, robinson, moss? anyone else who wants the fastest redskin title

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Forgot about Aldrick. Might as well let D-Hall in that race too.

If he stays healthy through his career he will win the redskins a super bowl

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[quote=Monkeydad;953240]Forgot about Aldrick. Might as well let D-Hall in that race too.[/quote]like moss, i think he's lost a step.

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[quote=los panda;953242]like moss, i think he's lost a step.[/quote]

I don't understand the Tana Moss hate.... Never have and never will.

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He didn't say anything bad about him, or untrue. Moss IS a step slower. He's getting old.

I still love having him on the team though.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;953244]I don't understand the Tana Moss hate.... Never have and never will.[/quote]who hates on santana?

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Does anyone realize how long ago 2005 was? Santana Moss has been consistent since his Redskins tenure began that year. He's also gone to a pro bowl as a member of the Redskins. The man just had 90+ receptions for almost 1,200 yards just two years ago.

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[quote=los panda;953238]i'm sorry if the term offends anyone, but i think saying someone has "getting away from the cops speed" is both funny and flattering.

i've got hide from the cops speed.

i would love to see a race w griff, banks, robinson, moss? anyone else who wants the fastest redskin title[/quote]

Was there some controversy over that phrase in Madden 12? That was used multiple times in that game.

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[quote=punch it in;953182][QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;953180]

Yup. Never thought last year with rex n beck or for that matter jc, brunell, ramsey, etc etc that i would say it. But i wouldnt trade rg3 for any other qb in the league. No way.
Edit: i mean i never thought i would say i think we have the best qb in football. I still have trouble wrapping my head around it. Lol.

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Completely agree bro!

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;953290]Was there some controversy over that phrase in Madden 12? That was used multiple times in that game.[/quote]yeah, there was some controversy.

i can vaguely see it from a parental standpoint, like we shouldn't be encouraging kids to achieve anything that involves running from the police.

from a racial standpoint, no, i can't see it.

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RG3 to Dezmon Briscoe in the corner of the endzone for the touchdown!

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[quote=NC_Skins;953067]No. He's not. Matt Ryan would be a MVP winner right now more than anybody. Also, this is the one thing that bothered me about getting RGIII. Fans will overlook anything and put them on a pedestal. RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.[/quote]

What's wrong with putting RG3 on a pedestal. RG3!!! RG3!!! RG3!!! MVP!!!! Matty Ice will tank. He started an interception parade on Sunday. he throws balls up for grabs at times. Julio and Roddy compensate for him a lot. He won't have MVP numbers at the end of the season. Matty Ice is a receiver-made my man.