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i'd like to see briscoe get some serious playing time

Yes! What is up with him? Actually forgot about the guy.


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[quote=SmootSmack;950445]Moss is perfectly suited for what he is now, the #3 slot receiver who can be that reliable underneath receiver who can turn on the burners for a big gain

Morgan's contract is not as much of a handcuff as people seem to believe.

And we have plenty of draft picks, 2nd rounders, 3rd rounders. Yeah we don't have 1sts but let's not act like we're going into the next several years without key draft picks.

The future is not now. That's why you don't hold onto Gaffney when young talent like Garcon is available. Or spend money on Plax when you can develop Hankerson and Dez as red zone targets. Or add Chad Johnson when a younger receiver in Josh Morgan can grow as the Z receiver. All as RG3 develops too.

Of course I want to win, but I mean we're 2-3. How far off is that from where we all thought our record would be right now? Would you rather be 3-2 with Grossman and Gaffney or 2-3 with RG3 and Garcon?[/quote]

It's a good debate SS, but only if you hold on to the premise guys like Garcon, Hank, Morgan and Briscoe develop into consistent difference makers. Right now, I think it's less than 50/50 odds any of those guys become consistent difference makers. Garcon's middle name, if you will, is inconsistent. The other three are really projects of one form or another. Hopefully I'm wrong all around.

But if none become difference makers then certainly the better route was keep the the average, vet WRs around (for a fraction of the currect payroll) until you really get that guy. That's what I don't understand about the "we're building for the future" argument. I see us trying to win now, and sucking at it. Why blow a wad and gamble on a guy like Garcon, who's definitely not proven he can be a #1 WR, if you're not "reaching" to win now? If anything the regime has looked desperate for immediate improvement in it's personnel decisions.

Briscoe sucks that's y he isn't playing guys

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;950449]Briscoe sucks that's y he isn't playing guys[/QUOTE]

How do we know that unless he plays?


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[quote=punch it in;950451]How do we know that unless he plays?


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Coaches probably know it because they see him practice everyday. I think if he was consistently having great practices they'd give him a shot.

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[quote=skinsfan69;950041]Atlanta is a better team than we are. We can complain about certain things but bottom line is they're a better team and the better team won. But we must cut Cundiff tonight and get some kickers in here tomorrow.[/quote]

Atlanta is a better team. has been for several years. I had this game as a loss on my win loss calender so I'm not too upset but the Skins did give Atlanta a run for their money. Score was pretty close and maybe that was partially cause Atlanta does not play well in weather or outside stadiums. But any advantage we can get is a plus.

I really don't think we are going to know what we got until each of the other NFC East teams start playing the same teams; ie; Saints, Rams, Falcons, or each other. The Skins beat Tampa just like two of our division rivals have and all three teams beat Tampa.

[QUOTE=mooby;950452]Coaches probably know it because they see him practice everyday. I think if he was consistently having great practices they'd give him a shot.[/QUOTE]

They also saw cundiff kick in practice everyday. So either they need glasses or things dont always translate frome the practice field to gameday. I dont think it hurts to get him in the game.


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[quote=mooby;950452]Coaches probably know it because they see him practice everyday. I think if he was consistently having great practices they'd give him a shot.[/quote]i get that, i understand that's the way it works. but some guys can turn it up to another level in a game, not saying that briscoe will - just saying he might.

this isn't a "shit season, might as well play the young guys" type thing. i'm not saying he's going to come on strong like victor cruz did last season, i just want to see him get some serious playing time in a regular season game.

Yeah but kickers are slim to none out there so we have to keep cundiff

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;950456]Yeah but kickers are slim to none out there so we have to keep cundiff[/QUOTE]

I meant before the season when gano and rackers were cut. They must have seen something in cundiff when they bought him here. I hear you though.


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[quote=punch it in;950444]I said this yesterday and somebody (forget who) lol'd me. Lol'd me can ya believe it? Lol
Edit: bucket you lol'd me in the gameday thread. I said i thought grossman was better than cousins (obviously meaning rite now as a backup - i did say cousins was a wasted pick - i stand by that - rex would be a better back up for the short future and still think the pick could have been used for secondary / line? And we will have time to replace our backup )


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I don't know, I personally think Cousins is better then Grossman. So Cousins threw 2 INT's thats exactly what we got out of Grossman each game last year so the team is no worse or better at second string QB.

In the perfect world the team would be putting up 20+ points more then their oponants and Cousins could see some action in the 4th quarter. Maybe he should get more practice time since RG3 knows the offense pretty well. Let Cousins get more practice time so if he has to come in he will be ready.

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[quote=The Goat;950448]It's a good debate SS, but only if you hold on to the premise guys like Garcon, Hank, Morgan and Briscoe develop into consistent difference makers. Right now, I think it's less than 50/50 odds any of those guys become consistent difference makers. Garcon's middle name, if you will, is inconsistent. The other three are really projects of one form or another. Hopefully I'm wrong all around.

But if none become difference makers then certainly the better route was keep the the average, vet WRs around (for a fraction of the currect payroll) until you really get that guy. That's what I don't understand about the "we're building for the future" argument. I see us trying to win now, and sucking at it. Why blow a wad and gamble on a guy like Garcon, who's definitely not proven he can be a #1 WR, if you're not "reaching" to win now? If anything the regime has looked desperate for immediate improvement in it's personnel decisions.[/quote]

I think you're not thinking 4th dimensionally Marty...seriously though, how often do you keep waiting for that guy. And who is that guy? I didn't agree with signing Morgan but I think adding Garcon who's shown he can be a #1 WR and can grow with RG3 over the next couple of years was a smart move both on the field and salary cap wise. You want to get guys on the upswing

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;950459]I think you're not thinking 4th dimensionally Marty...seriously though, how often do you keep waiting for that guy. And who is that guy? I didn't agree with signing Morgan but I think adding Garcon who's shown he can be a #1 WR and can grow with RG3 over the next couple of years was a smart move both on the field and salary cap wise. You want to get guys on the upswing[/QUOTE]

Last year everyone complained about not having any speed and youth at WR. Well that's what we have now, PG and AR.

[QUOTE=SBXVII;950458]I don't know, I personally think Cousins is better then Grossman. So Cousins threw 2 INT's thats exactly what we got out of Grossman each game last year so the team is no worse or better at second string QB.

In the perfect world the team would be putting up 20+ points more then their oponants and Cousins could see some action in the 4th quarter. Maybe he should get more practice time since RG3 knows the offense pretty well. Let Cousins get more practice time so if he has to come in he will be ready.[/QUOTE]

Im not necessarily saying cousins wont be better than grossman some day. Im saying that we had/have a serviceable backup in grossman already who knows the offense. I think the pick would have been better served elsewhere and we could have replaced grossman or not - its not like grossman is a sought after commodity and he basically has said he has no problem sticking around and being the backup.
You said urself the team is no better or worse at second string qb so why the pick?

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in the grand scheme of things, there's actually not much i would change about this team. keeping several things in mind (cap penalties, rookie qb, new starting wrs, losing orakpo and carriker, etc.), i think we're doing alright. it's hard not to be excited about what the future holds when our qb is robert griffin iii.

we have been in every single game, never losing by more than 1 score. they're fighting hard, i admire that. that's my take on it

[QUOTE=los panda;950463]in the grand scheme of things, there's actually not much i would change about this team. keeping several things in mind (cap penalties, rookie qb, new starting wrs, losing orakpo and carriker, etc.), i think we're doing alright. it's hard not to be excited about what the future holds when our qb is robert griffin iii.

we have been in every single game, never losing by more than 1 score. they're fighting hard, i admire that. that's my take on it[/QUOTE]

I agree, and our offense is way way more better than the past few years. I'm happy with this team. We have an outstanding franchise qb, good LT and a solid WR corp and rookie rb.

[QUOTE=los panda;950463]in the grand scheme of things, there's actually not much i would change about this team. keeping several things in mind (cap penalties, rookie qb, new starting wrs, losing orakpo and carriker, etc.), i think we're doing alright. it's hard not to be excited about what the future holds when our qb is robert griffin iii.

we have been in every single game, never losing by more than 1 score. they're fighting hard, i admire that. that's my take on it[/QUOTE]

Well there is cundont and those yellow pants but.....


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[quote=punch it in;950454]They also saw cundiff kick in practice everyday. So either they need glasses or things dont always translate frome the practice field to gameday. I dont think it hurts to get him in the game.


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It's easy to watch a kicker who makes every FG in practice because there isn't any pressure on him, and a WR who is getting beat out by better WR's on the roster.

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[quote=los panda;950463]in the grand scheme of things, there's actually not much i would change about this team. keeping several things in mind ([B]cap penalties[/B], rookie qb, new starting wrs, losing orakpo and carriker, etc.), i think we're doing alright. it's hard not to be excited about what the future holds when our qb is robert griffin iii.

we have been in every single game, never losing by more than 1 score. they're fighting hard, i admire that. that's my take on it[/quote]

Keep in mind, the cap penalty is our own faulty and the stupidty of our FO and the fact Vinny and Danny still haunt us with piss poor free agent signings. Cap Penalty is nobody's fault but our own.

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[quote=Chico23231;950476]Keep in mind, the cap penalty is our own faulty and the stupidty of our FO and the fact Vinny and Danny still haunt us with piss poor free agent signings. Cap Penalty is nobody's fault but our own.[/quote]

I don't want to open up this discussion again but the cap penalty was not our fault. I think it sucks that we had to resort to that and that came from Vinny's mess. But the fact that we got hit with a 36 mil penalty was all the NFL's doing.

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[quote=Chico23231;950476]Keep in mind, the cap penalty is our own faulty and the stupidty of our FO and the fact Vinny and Danny still haunt us with piss poor free agent signings. Cap Penalty is nobody's fault but our own.[/quote]i disagree, i don't see how we are at fault for following the rules. there was a loophole, and we took advantage of it.

“There were no rules or agreements broken by the Redskins, the Cowboys, or any other Club with respect to Player Contracts executed in the 2010 League Year.”

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Yeah I find it hard to get mad at our FO for "violating the spirit of the cap". Pure BS.

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[quote=Mattyk;950484]Yeah I find it hard to get mad at our FO for "violating the spirit of the cap". Pure BS.[/quote]how much should the giants get docked for violating the spirit of competition by winning 2 super bowls in the last 5 seasons?

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[quote=los panda;950486]how much should the giants get docked for violating the spirit of competition by winning 2 super bowls in the last 5 seasons?[/quote]


...you're starting to see that now,all those #32 picks.

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FYI, got work to do so I won't be transcribing today's Shanny presser

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No dizziness, headaches, vomiting so far for RG3. Good to hear

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[quote=Giantone;950487]...you're starting to see that now,all those #32 picks.[/quote]:lol: hah

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;950489]No dizziness, headaches, vomiting so far for RG3. Good to hear[/QUOTE]

I just exhaled. Its been about 24 hours. That felt good.


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5 points/observations/etc. from yesterday's game:
1. I really hope the light goes on over RGIII's head about getting out of bounds
2. I think RGIII should sit out this week vs. the Vikings. Coming back from concussions too soon seems to lead to more concussions. I don't want this thing compounding, and it might be good for him to see a game from the sidelines then come back strong for the G-Men.
3. I am convinced that Jim Haslett does not even go into the lockerroom at halftime. There are no adjustments made by our defense ever. Whatever the strategy is the 1st drive of the game, its the same the last drive no matter the results. Seemed like we rushed only 4 95% of the time.
4. Everyone needs to calm down about the world ending, we are a few players short of having a good chance of making the playoffs, I think if we have 1 more good draft class and get some secondary players we will be solid.
5. Pierre Garcon was a good signing, he had a bad game, but Julio Jones is a beast! Man that kid is big and intimidating as a WR.

I friggin hate when they show haslett on the sidelines. He looks as dumbfounded as cundiff looks nervous.


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[quote=punch it in;950496]I just exhaled. Its been about 24 hours. That felt good.


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Has to go through standard tests. If no setbacks he'll do some cardio tomorrow maybe and practice Wednesday. Any setback and he won't play Sunday

Meriweather, as I mentioned before, likely not back until after the bye week. Jammal Brown may return then as well (I've stopped holding my breath on him)

Wow jamal brown. Yeah havent even considered him but imagine if he does return and is good again? Same with BW. If he is good again? An offensive line and secondary upgrade might just be what the doctor ordered.
As im typing this dream weaver is playing somewhere in my head.


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all the expressions are awesome, but that asian dude's face is killing me
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LOL! That Asian dude looks like someone just slapped him in the face and took his ball from him!

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I honestly think some guys are seriously trolling up here with some of the "opinions". Not sure how you can expect anybody to take you seriously when you are suggesting any of the following:


1) Bring back Al Sauders or Gregg Williams
2) Signed Gaffney (or Plaxico) instead of Garcon due to one is pricey and other is not. Mind you, this is from somebody who has been bitching repeatedly about WR speed.
3) Thinks Moss is our best WR of the group.
4) Fire everybody in the Redskins organization except for Raheem Morris, and then touts his "winning record" as a coach. The same coach that a 17-31 record with the Buccaneers and was promptly fired. Yeah...THAT winning coach.


You really can't win with some fans. Damned if they do, damned if you don't. It's not even about having a different opinion, it's about having a LOGICAL opinion. The above is not logical in any shape, form or fashion.



:laughing-


You have to laugh at the insanity.

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[quote=punch it in;950500]Wow jamal brown. Yeah havent even considered him but imagine if he does return and is good again? Same with BW. If he is good again? An offensive line and secondary upgrade might just be what the doctor ordered.
As im typing this dream weaver is playing somewhere in my head.


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I was actually thinking about Jammal Brown last night...in a totally normal way. And was going to ask about him this morning to see what was up with him. But I totally forgot. From what I've seen, Polumbus is pretty awful. I mean he's really terrible

That is hysterical. Kid in the middle looks like hes waiting for the hibachi chef to flip him a piece of tofu.


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[quote=SmootSmack;950507]I was actually thinking about Jammal Brown last night...in a totally normal way. And was going to ask about him this morning to see what was up with him. But I totally forgot. From what I've seen, Polumbus is pretty awful. I mean he's really terrible[/quote]

Polumbus gets schooled in pass pro way too often. Yeah he's bad.

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[quote=punch it in;950462]Im not necessarily saying cousins wont be better than grossman some day. Im saying that we had/have a serviceable backup in grossman already who knows the offense. I think the pick would have been better served elsewhere and we could have replaced grossman or not - its not like grossman is a sought after commodity and he basically has said he has no problem sticking around and being the backup.
You said urself the team is no better or worse at second string qb so why the pick?

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a serviceable backup (Rexy) who came in because McNabb couldn't run the two minute drill and proceeded to get a sack/fumble. Look, maybe Grossman plays better than Cousins yesterday maybe not, but I am as content with him coming in as I would be with Grossman. Grossman is a 50/50 passer, maybe he won yesterday, maybe he throws the exact same picks Cousins threw. I don't know, but long term we might as well let Cousins see the field and get reps. Grossman, I still don't know why he is here at this point.