[QUOTE=hooskins;963003]Based on international law, it is. How can you expect countries to respect our diplomatic actions and requests based on international law(ex. Iran stop developing nukes) if we don't follow those very rules? It's very hypocritical.[/QUOTE]

110% agree, this and NDAA were the two biggest reservations I had while voting for Obama.


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[quote=hooskins;963003]Based on international law, it is. How can you expect countries to respect our diplomatic actions and requests based on international law(ex. Iran stop developing nukes) if we don't follow those very rules? It's very hypocritical.[/quote]

They can kiss the south end of my red, white and blue ass!

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[quote=Alvin Walton;962978]Yup, we've still got a lot of work to do.

[URL="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-plays-golf_662260.html"]Obama Plays Golf | The Weekly Standard[/URL][/quote]


Really,JC ...you guys need to stop.Do any of you realize how much work gets done at a golf course,no really!!!

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[quote=hooskins;962991]My biggest gripe with the Obama administration. Drone strikes are horrible for long term foreign policy in the mid east...and they're illegal.[/quote]

BS,illegal my ass!(sorry).It's illegal to kill 3000 Americans by flying planes into towers but over there how many people were cheering?

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[quote=Giantone;963109]BS,illegal my ass!(sorry).It's illegal to kill 3000 Americans by flying planes into towers but over there how many people were cheering?[/quote]

It is illegal. You think it's legal to fly a aircraft (manned or unmanned) through another country to kill somebody?


Also, you were shown exactly what our media wants to show you. You see a few hundred people cheering and assume that's the whole country.

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so if someone flew a drone over te US and killed your parent, or a 4 star general, that wouldn't be terrorism? or does logic magically only work one way.

I can tell you, if that happened, i'd be pretty pissed.

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[quote=NC_Skins;963111]. You see a few hundred people cheering and assume that's the whole country.[/quote]


All due respect ,a few hundred,are you serous?In that case ....it was a whole country.

[QUOTE=Giantone;963135]All due respect ,a few hundred,are you serous?In that case ....it was a whole country.[/QUOTE]

Really? All of Pakistan? That's not true.

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;963069]They can kiss the south end of my red, white and blue ass![/QUOTE]

Fine but then we can't expect other countries to follow any international law. And we expect other countries to all the time (extradition, nuclear policy, long/short range missiles, etc.). Hypocritical.

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Anyone know the whereabouts of Buster? I hope he's getting help, we don't want his depression to turn into psychosis.

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[quote=That Guy;963133]so if someone flew a drone over te US and killed your parent, or a 4 star general, that wouldn't be terrorism? or does logic magically only work one way.

I can tell you, if that happened, i'd be pretty pissed.[/quote]

Exactly. The point of these treaties is the 'do unto others' mentality. If we break those rules, we simply can't expect others to follow them.

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[quote=saden1;962993]Everyone deserves downtime not to mention the fact that it is possible to walk and chew gum at the some time. The president isn't lazy but you guys go ahead and keep thinking that.[/quote]

In the words of Nancy Reagan "Presidents don't get a vacation...they just get a change of scenery"

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I've never understood all the angst over drone usage.
In most cases we have the permision of the local govt to use them.
Its a hell of a lot more efficient to just drop on them then to send in a team and capture them and bring them to Guantanamo bay. (Obamas policy)
And it also puts less American lives at risk.
There may be some rule bending going on there, that may be putting it mildly, but if it prevents another 9/11....well then drone baby drone!

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[quote=hooskins;962991]My biggest gripe with the Obama administration. Drone strikes are horrible for long term foreign policy in the mid east...and they're illegal.[/quote]

You really think that Obama and our military have not been warning Yamen to wipeout those terrorist camps or we will ourself. Last time we ignored those camps bad things happened. Terrorism is illegal by international laws and aiding and abetting is also illegal by international law. This is one area I support Obama as long as its used wisely. Another words I don't want him to kill 20 women and children to get one or two terrorist.

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[quote=SmootSmack;963226]In the words of Nancy Reagan "Presidents don't get a vacation...they just get a change of scenery"[/quote]

Perfect quote..given how quickly presidents [URL="http://images.politico.com/global/politico44/110427_obama_graying_ap_522_regular.jpg"]gray[/URL] you would think you think they could use some downtown.

...sometimes I wish I lived in their bubble, you know, vacation there for a few weeks and see what it is like in there.

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[url=http://gawker.com/5959719/we-the-people-petitions-filed-in-nineteen-states-seeking-permission-to-secede-from-the-union]'We the People' Petitions Filed in Nineteen States Seeking Permission to Secede from the Union [UPDATE][/url]

Repealing slavery in 3...2...

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As said in the article, this is just a "toothless temper tantrum" from some on the far right. I am not sure what the population of each State where it is filed, but I expect anywhere from a 10-20% response - with only a small portion of those numbers actually reflecting people who desire seccession and the rest made up of people "making a statement".

Reconciling the (what appear to be) very different views of America based largely on regionalism is going to be a difficult challenge for this country going forward.

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[url=http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/421160/november-12-2012/colbert-super-pac-shh----secret-second-501c4---trevor-potter]Colbert Super PAC SHH! - Secret Second 501c4 - Trevor Potter - The Colbert Report - 2012-12-11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/url]

Some shady shit and yet this is legal. WTF?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;963582]As said in the article, this is just a "toothless temper tantrum" from some on the far right. I am not sure what the population of each State where it is filed, but I expect anywhere from a 10-20% response - with only a small portion of those numbers actually reflecting people who desire seccession and the rest made up of people "making a statement".

Reconciling the (what appear to be) very different views of America based largely on regionalism is going to be a difficult challenge for this country going forward.[/quote]

I don't believe we have "very different" views. I do believe the agitators want us to believe we have "very different" views. They have sold certain segment of the population on the idea that "There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos" and that compromise and win-win solutions are not desirable.

Bottom line, the problem is lack of leadership and in absence of leadership you get this:

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We need leaders who can say "that's quite enough of that."

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:laughing-


[IMG]http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/599120_436925056367372_1418530462_n.jpg[/IMG]


Well played Simpsons.

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[quote=saden1;963599]I don't believe we have "very different" views. I do believe the agitators want us to believe we have "very different" views. They have sold certain segment of the population on the idea that "There's Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos" and that compromise and win-win solutions are not desirable. ...

We need leaders who can say "that's quite enough of that."[/quote]

Can't get your media at work. I think I generally agree with you.

If this seems contradictory, I ask forgiveness for failing to express it well - I believe their are great areas of agreement, some areas of real disagreement and large areas of misunderstanding (by both sides) and that regionalism plays a part in all of that.

In terms of leadership, I agree.

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Even the dems. say they won by giving stuff away.

Democratic members of Congress said Tuesday they won by focusing on protecting and expanding entitlements and by calling for higher taxes on upper-income people.

[url=http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/14/15143389-democrats-return-to-washington-emboldened-by-election-wins?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1]Democrats return to Washington emboldened by election wins - NBC Politics[/url]

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Proceed Governor...

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[quote=JoeRedskin;963683]Can't get your media at work. I think I generally agree with you.

If this seems contradictory, I ask forgiveness for failing to express it well - I believe their are great areas of agreement, some areas of real disagreement and large areas of misunderstanding (by both sides) and that regionalism plays a part in all of that.

In terms of leadership, I agree.[/quote]

Do we have quite a few disagreements that difficult to abridge? Whether it be the role of government, abortion or climate change there is a difference and always will be. Some folks believe abortion is abhorrent and should be banned but a polarity of the public does not and the recognition of that is more important than the recognition of the difference itself. You can't have it your way all time.

I mean, the legality of Abortion has been settled for almost 40 years but for some reason there are "leaders" who believe its ban is attainable if they only speak loud enough and legislate hard enough. The banning of abortion is as impossible as the banning of alcohol and it takes leadership to bring those who want to ban it in line with reality.

There are a lot of people who tend to get upset and walk away when you disagree with them and all that does is create more distance.

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[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/mitt-romney-campaign-cancels-credit-cards-staffers-aids-election-night_n_2099916.html?utm_hp_ref=business]Mitt Romney Campaign Aides Had Credit Cards Canceled Late On Election Night[/url]


What a douche bag. I'm glad this assclown's political career is OVER. Good riddance asshole. Here I thought the guy gave a great concession speech, only to find out he turned around and ****ed his staffers. Good job staff, and as a reward for your loyalty and hard work, let me **** you over. Thanks! This message is approved by Mitt Romney!

I thought his speech was as fake as everything else thats ever come out of his mouth.

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Wonder why this country will never be united?

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/obama-offers-olive-branch-romney-dings-president-gifts-225118017--abc-news-politics.html]Romney Dings Obama for 'Gifts' to Minority Voters - Yahoo! News[/url]


Because it's leaders (especially on the GOP side) continue to divide its core. The sooner this assclown gets out of the public, the better. Don't go away mad Mitt, just go away.

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If you want him to go away why do you keep posting crap about it in here?

[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;964176]If you want him to go away why do you keep posting crap about it in here?[/QUOTE]

Dont think Mitt is going to run again based on the opinions of some of us on the WP. Everybody should know how lucky we are that the assclown did not win the election. Keep it coming NC. Makes me feel good about the vote i cast.

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I want some free stuff, damnit! FREE STUFF!!!

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[quote=12thMan;964225]I want some free stuff, damnit! FREE STUFF!!![/quote]

May I prescribe a tax cut or borrowing from your parents?

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LOL, money can't buy class or intellect.

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Well, [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/georgia-gop-lawmakers_n_2132263.html"]that[/URL] explains it!

[I]President Obama is using a Cold War-era mind-control technique known as "Delphi" to coerce Americans into accepting his plan for a United Nations-run communist dictatorship in which suburbanites will be forcibly relocated to cities. That's according to a four-hour briefing delivered to Republican state senators at the Georgia state Capitol last month.[/I]

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[quote=12thMan;964225]I want some free stuff, damnit! FREE STUFF!!![/quote]

You will mosty likely get it.
The people that voted for [I]free[/I] outnumbered the people that voted for [I]freedom[/I].

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Every politician sells perks. That's how they get votes. Mitt offered perks to businesses and the wealthy, and ideology (or as close as any one candidate comes to covering your views.) More often than not, if you'll be getting a direct benefit, you'll vote for that person.

Are we new to politics around here? That's how politics work. Just like the industries that contribute to politicians get favors. However, when it comes down to it. If people are going to get perks, I'm glad it's the middle class and not the uber wealthy.

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[IMG]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/29631_457941310908408_1463389377_n.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=NC_Skins;964313][IMG]http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/29631_457941310908408_1463389377_n.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Let's go to the tapes and discover how much of a POS psychopath Ron Paul is:

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[quote=saden1;964251][yt]mfy6ydGkk04[/yt]


LOL, money can't buy class or intellect.[/quote]


Well I guess your talking about that dumb ass from MSNBC. If you listen to what Rush actually said his thought are Romney wins big but his FEELING is different. So its the guy from MSNBC that does not know how to listen to what was said.

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[quote=NC_Skins;964136]Wonder why this country will never be united?

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/obama-offers-olive-branch-romney-dings-president-gifts-225118017--abc-news-politics.html]Romney Dings Obama for 'Gifts' to Minority Voters - Yahoo! News[/url]


Because it's leaders (especially on the GOP side) continue to divide its core. The sooner this assclown gets out of the public, the better. Don't go away mad Mitt, just go away.[/quote]

It's painful how clueless and out of touch with reality he is.

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[quote=NC_Skins;964064][URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/mitt-romney-campaign-cancels-credit-cards-staffers-aids-election-night_n_2099916.html?utm_hp_ref=business"]Mitt Romney Campaign Aides Had Credit Cards Canceled Late On Election Night[/URL]


What a douche bag. I'm glad this assclown's political career is OVER. Good riddance asshole. Here I thought the guy gave a great concession speech, only to find out he turned around and ****ed his staffers. Good job staff, and as a reward for your loyalty and hard work, let me **** you over. Thanks! This message is approved by Mitt Romney![/quote]

Makes perfect sense to me. When you shut down your office the first thing you do is shut off the cash before people decide to have the night out with other peoples money. Its very easy to max out a card and the other party having no chance to come back and require you to pay it back.