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artmonkforhallofamein07 12-13-2012 09:35 PM

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Is it just me or did others think what he was trying to convey about race was that he doesn't want to be constantly compared in the media to other black qb's and not ALL QBs?

It seemed IMHO that he was trying to say he doesn't want to be only defined by the color of his skin. We are all people period. We should be compared to all of our peers and looked at the same way. Why is there always race issues brought up as if they are race issues. The media shouldn't help perpetuating things by covering this stuff or even offering personal options. Let the story die or just leave it in print if some one must write an essay. There is more context in most articles at times and more thought put into a pice of writing as it isn't a fly by the seat of your pants tv show. Anyway done with my rant. ( the whole segement really irked me )


I am of the belief RG III plays Sunday to continue this great run he helped to spark.

skinsfaninok 12-13-2012 09:38 PM

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Rob Parker is an IDIOT! That's y he was fired from the Detroit Press and yes he's racist. He's also said Tiger Woods needs to act more black

punch it in 12-13-2012 09:40 PM

This thread is making me sea sick. Back n forth between topics. Lol. Can we just chalk the comments from whats his name up to absurd. Any talk at all what so ever about what being black means entails that it means something other thAn the color of your skin and is really not worth the price of the cyber space it takes up.

HailGreen28 12-13-2012 09:42 PM

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[quote=ethat001;975253]Agree completely, great post. (except about Cousins running -- really?)

1) Morris is a great back, but without RG3 they'd stack the box on him.
2) On passing downs, hard to imagine Cousins success w/o max protect.

People always seem to forget when they talk about our offense / O-line / RB. Clearly we benefit greatly from the scheme, and RG3. If we play "straight up", with a traditional offense, I think we could regress back to last year with Beck/Rexy. Really really hope RG3 plays this game & stays healthy for the playoffs. Yes, the playoffs.


Couple of scary stats:
1) Logan Paulson has the lowest pass blocking efficiency of all [URL="https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/12/12/32-observations-week-14/"]tight ends[/URL]

2) Tyler Polumbus is the 7th worst pass blocking efficiency of all [URL="https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/28/sig-stat-snapshot-pass-blocking-efficiency/2/"]offensive linemen[/URL].



Still really need to upgrade O-line. I'm hoping Compton learns quickly to hold up the RT spot, and maybe a couple of other late round gems next draft.[/quote]Agreed running Griffin in the Pistol hides our OL weakness in pass pro.

How are Hurt, LeRibeus, and Gettis developing? Could they step up this year or maybe next season?

REDSKINS4ever 12-13-2012 10:04 PM

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Rob Parker isn't doing himself any favors for his career. He needs to have a coke and a smile and stfu....


As far as Griffin III goes, the young man is leading the NFL in QB passer rating.

Robert Griffin III: 104.2

Tom Brady: 104.2

Alex Smith: 104.1

Aaron Rodgers: 103.7

mbedner3420 12-13-2012 10:10 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;975239]Good question. He was a political science major and wants to get his law degree. That's about all I have heard, never heard him say I'm a republican. So what if he is... I am an independent who cares??

He is the Washington Redskins QB, nothing else really matters to me![/quote]

That my basic feeling too, but it seems odd that someone is considered inherently less black based off the way they vote.

SmootSmack 12-13-2012 10:24 PM

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So like I said before let's drop the Rob Parker talk and get back to talking about Sunday's game.

CRedskinsRule 12-13-2012 10:35 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;975269]So like I said before let's drop the Rob Parker talk and get back to talking about Sunday's game. [/quote]
I posted this right before the comments blew the thread up. As was said, stats don't show everything, and mainly the stats favor us, but we need to put the effort on the field.
[quote=CRedskinsRule;975026]A few notes from the ESPN Stat sheets:
Accuscore has us winning this 61% to 38% (average score Skins 22.5, Browns 19.0)

The numbers:
TEAM OFFENSE (per game average)
Total Yards
WSH 386
CLE 322

Yards Passing
WSH 219
CLE 221

Yards Rushing
WSH 168
CLE 101
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TEAM DEFENSE (per game average)
Yards Allowed
WSH 388
CLE 363

Pass Yds Allowed
WSH 289
CLE 243

Rush Yds Allowed
WSH 99
CLE 121
______________________________

Allen, Golic and Hoge pick us
Jaworski, Schefter, and Wickersham pick the Browns
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In our last 10 games,
our largest loss was by 15 to Pittsburgh
our largest win was by 25 over Philly

In their last 10 games,
their largest loss was by 14 to Indy
their largest win was by 23 over KC (remember KC held Baltimore to 9)
______________________________

In the last 10 games we have had 4 common opponents:
Baltimore, NYG, Dallas, Pit
We were 3-2 against them (2 games v NYG)
They were 1-4 against them( 2 games v Baltimore)
______________________________

The Skins are 3-3 away
The Browns are 4-3 at home
______________________________

In the last 10 games, we have played 6 playoff potential teams, 3-3
In the last 10 games, they have played 7 playoff potential teams, 2-5

We both have one overtime game in the last 10 games
We won against Baltimore (in case you forgot)
They lost against Dallas[/quote]

CultBrennan59 12-13-2012 10:52 PM

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So NFLN basically said something which we pretty much knew, but that a doctor said that RG3 won't be able to run on a sprained LCL this week. We shall see.

skinsfaninok 12-13-2012 10:58 PM

Don't expect to see many read options this week

artmonkforhallofamein07 12-13-2012 11:24 PM

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We shall see what happens. I agree though not many runs by Griffin if he plays.

Will be interesting to see how he handles the way he plays the game if he isn't 100%. I am sure he did it in college from time to time, but I don't watch or follow much Baylor football.

punch it in 12-13-2012 11:43 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;975274]Don't expect to see many read options this week[/QUOTE]

Nope. A whole lot of screens though.

Bucket 12-13-2012 11:58 PM

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I'm usually right about everything, and you will still see a lot of read options this week if RG3 plays.. Now, if he actually runs from the option or just hands the ball off and throws from it will not surprise me, but I highly doubt that Kyle just removes one of our deadliest aspects of our offense out of the playbook against the Browns. You still have to approach the defense and make them aware of the threat.

Kyle said it himself.. If he feels like RG3 can't protect himself, then he wont play. I'm pretty confident that RG3 on one leg is more mobile then 95% of the QB's in the NFL.

12thMan 12-14-2012 09:22 AM

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Haha..how in the hell can a doctor, any doctor, say with certainty whether or not RGIII will be able to run?

The only person who knows that is Robert and we won't know find out until Sunday @1 PM.

skinsguy 12-14-2012 10:25 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;975273]So NFLN basically said something which we pretty much knew, but that a doctor said that RG3 won't be able to run on a sprained LCL this week. We shall see.[/quote]

And of course the doctors are always right. :yeahright

SmootSmack 12-14-2012 11:46 AM

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I don't want to rehash this debate so I'm going to just say this once and then let's drop it and move on...but FYI, Rob Parker has been suspended indefinitely

The Dull Roar 12-14-2012 12:06 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;975361]I don't want to rehash this debate so I'm going to just say this once and then let's drop it and move on...but FYI, Rob Parker has been suspended indefinitely[/quote]

I've been trying really hard to avoid commenting on this nonsense but my will is weak so I'll just say good and leave it at that.

The Goat 12-14-2012 01:16 PM

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[quote=punch it in;975220]Hes a division manager in charge of 49 people! He drives a dodge stratus![/quote]

:laughing2

:lol:

I got a few good solid minutes of laughs in punch, haven't seen reruns of those Will Farrell skits in a coon's age.

The Goat 12-14-2012 01:20 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;975269]So like I said before let's drop the Rob Parker talk and get back to talking about Sunday's game.[/quote]

This is funny too, but in a different way

SmootSmack 12-14-2012 01:23 PM

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[quote=The Goat;975406]This is funny too, but in a different way[/quote]

sigh...go ahead, humor me

punch it in 12-14-2012 01:24 PM

[QUOTE=The Goat;975403]:laughing2

:lol:

I got a few good solid minutes of laughs in punch, haven't seen reruns of those Will Farrell skits in a coon's age.[/QUOTE]

I have the dvd. Hysterical.

Chico23231 12-14-2012 04:01 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/14/report-rg3-hasnt-taken-first-team-reps-this-week/]Report: RG3 hasn’t taken first team reps this week | ProFootballTalk[/url]

skinsguy 12-14-2012 04:09 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;975498][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/14/report-rg3-hasnt-taken-first-team-reps-this-week/]Report: RG3 hasn’t taken first team reps this week | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

This would be true regardless if RGIII was playing or not. RGIII doesn't need the reps as much as Cousins, and it will be good to have both ready to go.

Gary84Clark 12-14-2012 04:24 PM

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Rob Parker is out of touch. Having a white girlfriend is not uncommon in DC, does not factor in questioning your blackness. Hell I'm black an I question those basketball wives blackness. Hey RG3 gets props cause you don't see his fiancee doing stuff like the link below. Second of all 22 growing up loving Michael jackson and beat boxing. His whole family from New Orleans, he went to high school and college in Texas. Yeah, no question he is of the African American culture. He wants no excuses when people say he the best. Because he is the best. The things he describe as far as his heroes and things he like sound exactly like my 22 year old family members. Yeah some still have braids, some grew dreads, but all had braids for a long time. Rob Parker is a cornball wanna be.

[URL="http://http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12/14/3724431/tyrus-thomas-wife-arrested.html"]http://http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12/14/3724431/tyrus-thomas-wife-arrested.html[/URL]

The Goat 12-14-2012 05:18 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;975507]Rob Parker is out of touch. Having a white girlfriend is not uncommon in DC, does not factor in questioning your blackness. Hell I'm black an I question those basketball wives blackness. Hey RG3 gets props cause you don't see his fiancee doing stuff like the link below. Second of all 22 growing up loving Michael jackson and beat boxing. His whole family from New Orleans, he went to high school and college in Texas. Yeah, no question he is of the African American culture. He wants no excuses when people say he the best. Because he is the best. The things he describe as far as his heroes and things he like sound exactly like my 22 year old family members. Yeah some still have braids, some grew dreads, but all had braids for a long time. Rob Parker is a cornball wanna be.

[URL]http://http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12/14/3724431/tyrus-thomas-wife-arrested.html[/URL][/quote]

Careful bud. The secret police, once called the SS in another time and place, don't take kindly to such free expression of opinion and ideas.

DynamiteRave 12-14-2012 05:23 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;975507]Rob Parker is out of touch. Having a white girlfriend is not uncommon in DC, does not factor in questioning your blackness. Hell I'm black an I question those basketball wives blackness. Hey RG3 gets props cause you don't see his fiancee doing stuff like the link below. Second of all 22 growing up loving Michael jackson and beat boxing. His whole family from New Orleans, he went to high school and college in Texas. Yeah, no question he is of the African American culture. He wants no excuses when people say he the best. Because he is the best. The things he describe as far as his heroes and things he like sound exactly like my 22 year old family members. Yeah some still have braids, some grew dreads, but all had braids for a long time. Rob Parker is a cornball wanna be.

[URL="http://http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12/14/3724431/tyrus-thomas-wife-arrested.html"]http://http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12/14/3724431/tyrus-thomas-wife-arrested.html[/URL][/quote]

I'm black too, but the question that really needs to be asked here is... What is blackness? Because if its the stereotype that's perpetrated by the media then I'm aokay with my blackness being in jeopardy.

SmootSmack 12-14-2012 05:26 PM

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[quote=The Goat;975517]Careful bud. The secret police, once called the SS in another time and place, don't take kindly to such free expression of opinion and ideas.[/quote]

You're skating a really thin line

mbedner3420 12-14-2012 05:41 PM

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[quote=The Goat;975403]:laughing2

:lol:

I got a few good solid minutes of laughs in punch, haven't seen reruns of those Will Farrell skits in a coon's age.[/quote]

Never heard the term 'in a coon's age' before... Interesting idiom.

los panda 12-14-2012 05:46 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;975525]Never heard the term 'in a coon's age' before... Interesting idiom.[/quote]about 200 years ago, people believed raccoons had long lifespans

44ever 12-14-2012 05:51 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;975520]You're skating a really thin line[/quote][IMG]http://www.navyfitness.org/_uploads/images/skating%20-%201.4.3.7.jpg[/IMG]

DynamiteRave 12-14-2012 05:52 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;975525]Never heard the term 'in a coon's age' before... Interesting idiom.[/quote]

Reminds me of this bit

[YT]iAjPOpws0eE[/YT]

los panda 12-14-2012 05:54 PM

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as gloria would say "you're skating on eggshells"

los panda 12-14-2012 05:57 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;975534]Reminds me of this bit

[YT]iAjPOpws0eE[/YT][/quote]and that reminds me of this

[YT]6ny6tiH_GTE[/YT]

Gary84Clark 12-14-2012 06:14 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;975519]I'm black too, but the question that really needs to be asked here is... What is blackness? Because if its the stereotype that's perpetrated by the media then I'm aokay with my blackness being in jeopardy.[/quote]

I feel you. I was just wondering what the hell Rob Parker was referring to?

Gary84Clark 12-14-2012 06:17 PM

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[quote=44ever;975533][IMG]http://www.navyfitness.org/_uploads/images/skating%20-%201.4.3.7.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Goat skating, hahaha!

The Goat 12-14-2012 06:38 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;975520]You're skating a really thin line[/quote]

I started to laugh, and then realized you're probably serious. Sad.

SmootSmack 12-14-2012 07:01 PM

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What is your issue?

Hog1 12-14-2012 08:23 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;975534]Reminds me of this bit

[YT]iAjPOpws0eE[/YT][/quote]
That scene is some seriously tasteless, insensitive drivel and you should be ashamed...
LMAO every time I see it........

HTTR247 12-14-2012 09:18 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;975273]So NFLN basically said something which we pretty much knew, but that a doctor said that RG3 won't be able to run on a sprained LCL this week. We shall see.[/quote]

Not his exact words..

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/washington-redskins/0ap2000000110186/RG3-s-fantasy-prognosis]RG3's fantasy prognosis - NFL Videos[/url]

Robert says he is good to go.

Chico23231 12-14-2012 09:26 PM

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[quote=The Goat;975556]I started to laugh, and then realized you're probably serious. Sad.[/quote]

Dude chill. Skins are 7-6 and moving towards a playoff berth, whats there to be all illy about? Reset, reflect and balance...really find the innner Goat, reflect on Jabar and then move forward. We are all one. Id past you the calumet if you would accept.


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