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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;992903]I guarantee you a Ravens fan is a bigger whiner than a 49ers fan any day of the week.[/quote]

Around here they still complain about the 24-21 loss in the championship game, they claim Ronnie Lott didn't interfere with Monk. That's the day i started hating the niners, Randy Cross talking shit about the smurfs, etc.

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[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;992912]What I'm saying is that would have been the ravens with the ball instead of the 49ers and the 49ers would have had the ball with around 2 mins to go, like the ravens.

and when i say "neither really stopped the other" that isn't a definitive statement, obviously some stops were made, but it felt like when either team had the ball in the 2nd half, they were going to score be it a TD or a FG. And we can also question that non call in the endzone on crabtree as a ''stop''. I don't think it should have been called, but if that were the redskins on the 49ers end, I can't say I wouldn't be pissed. It reminded me of the ohio st miami national championship game, where they did call it.[/QUOTE]
But the point is, that it's a pretty far leap to go from the coin toss, to the 49ers winning because:

1) had the 49ers won the toss, they may have elected to receive. I don't know their history on that.

2) as I said, there was no reason for the 49ers to give another possession back to the Ravens, if they had chosen to run it, they would have taken most of the clock away. Surely if the tables were turned, and the Ravens got the ball with 330 left, and all their timeouts left they would have a - forced the 49ers to use up their timeouts (they only had two), and b- possibly sealed it with 1 or 2 1st downs, never giving the ball back to the 49ers.

3) The 49ers were truly in their best case scenario once they were down so far, which is have a chance to win the game with 4 tries at the 7 yd line. They couldnt do it. The Ravens redzone defense was real in the playoffs, the patriots were 1 of 6, SF missed a few other times down their as well. It's the SB you have to win in the redzone. The Ravens did, all night long.

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I blame the playcalls alot more then that non-call at the end, like others have said. They have a guy who is low percentage throwing from the pocket in the red zone, for the last few games. Didn't seem like a good set of plays for him. For all we know the last play was partially designed to try and get a penalty? Intiate contact with the defender then try to move off for the ball with the ref watching the whole thing. Seems like a botched play also, if the route is run better at the start the throw comes sooner? Crabtree pushes Smith for a few seconds backwards before he tries to break for the side. Stutter step then sprint for the fade?

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[quote=Evilgrin;992918]I blame the playcalls alot more then that non-call at the end, like others have said. They have a guy who is low percentage throwing from the pocket in the red zone, for the last few games. Didn't seem like a good set of plays for him. For all we know the last play was partially designed to try and get a penalty? Intiate contact with the defender then try to move off for the ball with the ref watching the whole thing. Seems like a botched play also, if the route is run better at the start the throw comes sooner? Crabtree pushes Smith for a few seconds backwards before he tries to break for the side. Stutter step then sprint for the fade?[/quote]

The last play had no time because someone came through the line untouched.

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[quote=firstdown;992919]The last play had no time because someone came through the line untouched.[/quote]

Yeah, just saw that also. Throw wasn't great then from the blitz. I was just focusing on the crabtree/smith part. Crabtree doesn't do much except run right into Smith.

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A very good break down of the endzone play with Crabtree. You can see him clearly pushing off on Smith as well so I'll have to stand with it being a good no-call in that situation.


I like what this one 49ers fan said.

[quote]I haven't been on /r/nfl since the game, I'm disappointed to learn that this was a thing and our fans are complaining about it.

There was contact from both guys, and the call could've gone either way, I have no problem with the no call. I'm more upset with the play calling - We had 4 chances inside the 10 yard line, we have one of the best running offenses in the league, and Ngata was hurt. Run the damn ball![/quote]

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A very good break down of the endzone play with Crabtree. You can see him clearly pushing off on Smith as well so I'll have to stand with it being a good no-call in that situation.[/quote]

Clearly contact from both guys involved, and the ball wasn't even catchable which probably played into the refs thinking. Good non-call.

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I'll say it again I was very impressed with the refs and how they let the players play.

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Jim Harbaugh definition of "class and grace" is weird. Him and Bill Belicheat must have similar definitions of the words.

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Of all people, 49er fans (especially that bitch Jim Harbaugh) should stop talking about a missed call. Last I recall, didn't they win the NFC championship game on this 4th down play?

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;992932]Of all people, 49er fans (especially that bitch Jim Harbaugh) should stop talking about a missed call. Last I recall, didn't they win the NFC championship game on this 4th down play?

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Very true!!!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;992916]Around here they still complain about the 24-21 loss in the championship game, they claim Ronnie Lott didn't interfere with Monk. That's the day i started hating the niners, Randy Cross talking shit about the smurfs, etc.[/quote]

You have to admit, some of those calls were a little weak. lol.

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It was the play calling to not run with either Gore or Kap keeping it at least once in the four tries was just plain dumb. Especially Ngata out; what a damn no brainier.

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[quote=NC_Skins;992932]Of all people, 49er fans (especially that bitch Jim Harbaugh) should stop talking about a missed call. Last I recall, didn't they win the NFC championship game on this 4th down play?

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Whit runs hos route right where Bowman is standing. It's football, people to make contact with one another. That play was a good no call.

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Another reason to appreciate John Harbaugh is how brilliantly he coached the safety play. Not only was it the right call, but it was executed perfectly with shrewd coaching, running the clock all the way down the four seconds.

I'm positive Harbaugh told all his players to hold the 49ers defenders and there were at least 4-5 holding penalties that should have been called on the Ravens (including at least on blatent tackle), but since they would only have resulted in a safety (which was the goal anyway) and not any change to the kicking position, the holds effectively ran about five extra seconds off the clock and kept the 49ers from running an offensive play.

Brilliant call by a coach who knows his stuff.

Someone else who agrees already put the play to music:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXShuFueII[/URL]

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[quote=Chico23231;992930]Jim Harbaugh definition of "class and grace" is weird. Him and Bill Belicheat must have similar definitions of the words.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm not a Jim Harbaugh fan because he so often acts in such classless ways.

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[quote=NC_Skins;992932]Of all people, 49er fans (especially that bitch Jim Harbaugh) should stop talking about a missed call. Last I recall, didn't they win the NFC championship game on this 4th down play?

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Good no-call, like the SB 4th down.

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2 flags during play on ravens and 2 on 49ers. I don't think they called definaive holding once. I love when refs let them play. Blaming the refs means you lost

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Also anyone notice that everytime 49ers ran read option Suggs was hitting kapernick. It wasn't working all that well till Ngata got injured and then gore carved them up

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[quote=CooleyAsCanBe;992940]Another reason to appreciate John Harbaugh is how brilliantly he coached the safety play. Not only was it the right call, but it was executed perfectly with shrewd coaching, running the clock all the way down the four seconds.

I'm positive Harbaugh told all his players to hold the 49ers defenders and there were at least 4-5 holding penalties that should have been called on the Ravens (including at least on blatent tackle), but since they would only have resulted in a safety (which was the goal anyway) and not any change to the kicking position, the holds effectively ran about five extra seconds off the clock and kept the 49ers from running an offensive play.

Brilliant call by a coach who knows his stuff.

Someone else who agrees already put the play to music:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXShuFueII[/URL][/quote]

It kind of reminds me of the play from the Replacements when the Washington team just flat laid into every member of the Dallas team. In the movies the refs were like: Personal foul on 10, 12,18,30 46 etc. Was hilarious

But to the point of this thread, how was no flag thrown on that? I get that it doesn't change anything, but several yellow flags should have come out.

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[quote=donofriose;992945] Blaming the refs means you lost[/quote]

I was watching the game as a fan of the game, didn't care who won.

It was a hold, the refs had very little control, including the shove on an official that should have been an ejection.

Bad officiating in the Super Bowl is absurd.

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[quote=donofriose;992946]Also anyone notice that everytime 49ers ran read option Suggs was hitting kapernick. It wasn't working all that well till Ngata got injured and then gore carved them up[/quote]

I did notice it, I thought it picked up before Ngata went out, but I could be wrong. But even the hits by suggs weren't vicious, and CK put his hands up right away. Still seems like effectively kept Suggs from making a play on the ball.

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[quote=RedskinRat;992951]I was watching the game as a fan of the game, didn't care who won.

It was a hold, the refs had very little control, including the shove on an official that should have been an ejection.

Bad officiating in the Super Bowl is absurd.[/quote]

That push of the ref told me they were going to let this game be decided between the players and not on a bunch of penalties. It looked as if he didn't realize he was a ref until after he jumped up and pushed him. Yea the ref could have tossed him but the game was too big for that. It is after all football.

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[quote=firstdown;992900]I also find it ashame the poor choice they had for comercials and half time for a family event.[/quote]

What you didnt like seeing an Asian rapper (who weeks earlier was bashing America) doggie styling a pistachio. Well me neither.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;992952]I did notice it, I thought it picked up before Ngata went out, but I could be wrong. But even the hits by suggs weren't vicious, and CK put his hands up right away. Still seems like effectively kept Suggs from making a play on the ball.[/quote]

Ill agree with that. But the read option did become ineffective for the first portion of the game. Until gore got it going but I felt it was working when Ngata went out. And then any run play was working

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[quote=RedskinRat;992951]I was watching the game as a fan of the game, didn't care who won.

It was a hold, the refs had very little control, including the shove on an official that should have been an ejection.

Bad officiating in the Super Bowl is absurd.[/quote]

I'd rather have officials quite and let football be played then for a questionable call help decide the game. Like I said if you aren't 100% sure... Don't throw the flag.

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[quote=firstdown;992900]I also find it ashame the poor choice they had for comercials and half time for a family event.[/quote]

I know they should have had pictures of a lady blowing out a penis cake. I once saw them on a family friendly web site.

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[quote=mredskins;992967]I know they should have had pictures of a lady blowing out a penis cake. I once saw them on a family friendly web site.[/quote]

lol yeah right? Odd that FD is a morals cop today.

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[quote=skinsfan69;992881]I thought the refs last night did a nice job. They let em play and that's how it should be. I didn't see any ticky tack BS that you normally see. Well called game.[/quote]

What makes this game different than every other game? Other than the obvious....It's the SUPERBOWL.

But c'mon man!

Why can't they call all the games like that? If it is good enough for the Superbowl, and they think it makes for a better game, then apply it to the rest of the season. Seems pretty reasonable to me. Let 'em play.

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[quote=mredskins;992967]I know they should have had pictures of a lady blowing out a penis cake. I once saw them on a family friendly web site.[/quote]



:laughing-

Well played sir.


:thumb:

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Wonder what the value on this football would be.

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I'm just going to leave this here.

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This wasn't the best Super Bowl by any stretch of the imagination....the 30 minute delay ruined it for me.....but it was still a great game.....it reminded me of Super Bowl 16 between the 49ers and Bengals. Close game.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;993026]I'm just going to leave this here.

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Jim always keeps it classy.

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[quote=Lotus;993037]Jim always keeps it classy.[/quote]



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[quote=mredskins;992967]I know they should have had pictures of a lady blowing out a penis cake. I once saw them on a family friendly web site.[/quote]

Please give me the users names of kids on this site.

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Quake was just a child when he joined here. He was all about the video games.

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[quote=Monkeydad;993085]Quake was just a child when he joined here. He was all about the video games.[/quote]

We have video games here? I view this site as an adult site (used by adults not really its content) and others must unless the feel its OK to use the f word and other in front of kids. The SB is viewed by 190 million people in primetime and I would think they could have found a better act for this event.

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[quote=firstdown;993087]We have video games here? I view this site as an adult site (used by adults not really its content) and others must unless the feel its OK to use the f word and other in front of kids. The SB is viewed by 190 million people in primetime and I would think they could have found a better act for this event.[/quote]


It doesn't matter how you view this site. You had the admin directly tell you not to post such things because it was a family friendly site, yet you still proceeded to do otherwise. Please. Stop calling the pot names Mr. Kettle.


ps. Have you seen the violent shows that CBS has lined up in their primetime yet complain about Beyonce?....lol

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[quote=Lotus;993037]Jim always keeps it classy.[/quote]

What a crybaby. He barely even congradulated his own brother.