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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/10/adam-jones-to-be-charged-after-thursday-incident-at-bar/]Adam Jones to be charged after Thursday incident at bar | ProFootballTalk[/url]
talk about knuckeheads

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[quote=dmek25;1011420][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/10/adam-jones-to-be-charged-after-thursday-incident-at-bar/"]Adam Jones to be charged after Thursday incident at bar | ProFootballTalk[/URL]
talk about knuckeheads[/quote]

Kind a messed up that someone would do that to him just cause he would not take a pic w/ them. But even so you can't go around slapping women, he just needs to stay out of places where people are drinking and getting drunk.

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Well we all expected it and now, per Ed Werder, it's happening. Step aside Tom Brady. Tebow mania has landed in Boston

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1011437]Well we all expected it and now, per Ed Werder, it's happening. Step aside Tom Brady. Tebow mania has landed in Boston[/QUOTE]

I am sure Brady is worried.

Actually, one of the few teams that could make it work.

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I don't see it going any longer after camp. There is no way Tebow would beat Mallett for #2 spot.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1011418][url=http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/10/chad-johnson-slapped-lawyers-ass-court/]Chad Johnson -- Ripped By Judge for Slapping Lawyer's Ass | TMZ.com[/url][/quote]

Going back to this, it's amazing how many morons I've seen in the /r/nfl subreddit blaming the judge and calling the judge a prick. Are these people morons? (rhetorical question) They think that because "it's a joke" that nothing should be done to him and that 30 days was too harsh. You then remind them that he's been sentenced 30 days because of his previous violations, and the judge rejected the plea deal because she didn't think he was serious.

I'm dumbfounded by the sheer stupidity of people. I shouldn't be, but I am.

I have to say, I did appreciate Stephen A. Smith's rant about CJ. It was accurate and dead on.

[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:9361186]Johnson Angers Judge, Gets 30 Days Jail - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url]

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Hearing about Tebow being signed is like the groundhog seeing its shadow...6 more weeks of offseason.

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[quote=Chico23231;1011449]Hearing about Tebow being signed is like the groundhog seeing its shadow...6 more weeks of offseason.[/quote]

I'm just going to pretend I never saw the news report. :joecool:

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Bills let Tarvaris Jackson go

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^^ He had to see the writing on the wall on that one. He'll latch on somewhere probably. His starting days are over but he can probably stretch his career out as a second or third stringer for a few more years.

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[quote=GridIron26;1011441]I don't see it going any longer after camp. There is no way Tebow would beat Mallett for #2 spot.[/quote]

I agree here. Not sure what NE is thinking. No way can Baby Jesus run New England's offense. I guess Josh McDaniels is still trying to save face.

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Not surprised to see NE sign Tebow, I expected this move since the guy that drafted him is the OC and QB coach there. Josh just asked Bill if he could have his project back.

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[quote=GridIron26;1011441]I don't see it going any longer after camp. There is no way Tebow would beat Mallett for #2 spot.[/quote]

I don't think they're expecting him to be anything more than a #3 QB/gadget play guy.

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[quote=Chico23231;1011449]Hearing about Tebow being signed is like the groundhog seeing its shadow...6 more weeks of offseason.[/quote]

Lolz.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1011418][url=http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/10/chad-johnson-slapped-lawyers-ass-court/]Chad Johnson -- Ripped By Judge for Slapping Lawyer's Ass | TMZ.com[/url][/quote]

Dude is an idiot. Plain and simple. I hope the judge puts him in jail for as long as possible to make an example out of him and maybe, just possibly, straighten him up so he realizes how big of an idiot he looks to society.

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Best 3rd round picks of recent years

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-1992.html]NFP Sunday Blitz | National Football Post[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1011478]Dude is an idiot. Plain and simple. I hope the judge puts him in jail for as long as possible to make an example out of him and maybe, just possibly, straighten him up so he realizes how big of an idiot he looks to society.[/quote]

The bigger idiots are the ones commenting about how he didn't do anything, and how the judge is a bitch and is on a power trip. /facepalm



Can we get JR's take on this? I imagine he's probably seen judges slam the book on people for a lot less.

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Dumb move on Johnson's part. Can't disrespect a courtroom.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1011460]I agree here. Not sure what NE is thinking. No way can Baby Jesus run New England's offense. I guess Josh McDaniels is still trying to save face.[/quote]

I forgot that McDaniels is back in NE, which really explains the logic behind signing Tebow to the team.

[quote=Mattyk;1011462]I don't think they're expecting him to be anything more than a #3 QB/gadget play guy.[/quote]

You are right, but I don't think Tebow is even worth the roster spot because trick plays don't get called much, if not every game. And not to mention there's the media circus. Of course, that's just my opinion.

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[quote=GridIron26;1011506]You are right, but I don't think Tebow is even worth the roster spot because trick plays don't get called much, if not every game. And not to mention there's the media circus. Of course, that's just my opinion.[/quote]

I agree, I don't see the point either.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9363300/baltimore-ravens-look-trade-vonta-leach-release-source-says]Baltimore Ravens will look to trade Vonta Leach or release him, source says - ESPN[/url]

This is one of those guys who just wins. Move Rice 10 spots down on your draft board.

I really like this because we are going to see immediately just how smart that Flacco contract was...the affect on the team already has been tremendous. If the team wins and Flacco is good, he will deserve a ton of praise, but if he is even average to above average, team average he will deserve everything that is coming his way.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011483]The bigger idiots are the ones commenting about how he didn't do anything, and how the judge is a bitch and is on a power trip. /facepalm



Can we get JR's take on this? I imagine he's probably seen judges slam the book on people for a lot less.[/quote]

Ive seen judges not slam the book for alot more.

Cant disrespect the court room, but 30 days is excessive imo.

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[quote=Chico23231;1011512][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9363300/baltimore-ravens-look-trade-vonta-leach-release-source-says]Baltimore Ravens will look to trade Vonta Leach or release him, source says - ESPN[/url]

This is one of those guys who just wins. [B]Move Rice 10 spots down on your draft board.[/B]

I really like this because we are going to see immediately just how smart that Flacco contract was...the affect on the team already has been tremendous. If the team wins and Flacco is good, he will deserve a ton of praise, but if he is even average to above average, team average he will deserve everything that is coming his way.[/quote]

Ehh..I mean I wouldn't go that far. You really think so? So if you had the option of keeping Matt Ryan, Doug Martin and Ray Rice, you'd keep...?

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[quote=Chico23231;1011513]Ive seen judges not slam the book for alot more.

Cant disrespect the court room, but 30 days is excessive imo.[/quote]


The 30 days isn't for the slap. That 30 days is for the violation of parole. The slap just showed her that he wasn't serious about the situation and denied the plea agreements between the prosecution/defense. It would have been contempt of court had she punished him for the slap itself. Also, according to the ESPN article and her quote, that wasn't the first time he's acted that way in her court. So something tells me that it wasn't this incident alone either, it was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1011516]Ehh..I mean I wouldn't go that far. You really think so? So if you had the option of keeping Matt Ryan, Doug Martin and Ray Rice, you'd keep...?[/quote]

Doug Martin all day long

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[quote=Chico23231;1011513]Ive seen judges not slam the book for alot more.

Cant disrespect the court room, but 30 days is excessive imo.[/quote]

I highly doubt he's going to do the full 30 days.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1011538]I highly doubt he's going to do the full 30 days.[/quote]

agree, i was thinking out by the weekend

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[quote=GridIron26;1011506]I forgot that McDaniels is back in NE, which really explains the logic behind signing Tebow to the team.



You are right, but I don't think Tebow is even worth the roster spot because trick plays don't get called much, if not every game. And not to mention there's the media circus. Of course, that's just my opinion.[/quote]

I see this as a no-cost win/win.
The win for Tebow is obvious. Gets back in football. Minimal controversy, so he can move past the past. Back with McDaniels, and can develop.

The win for the Patriots is less obvious, but also costs them nothing unless he proves he can be of value, but also, they bring in a guy who has lifted the play of an entire team (Denver). No one in their fan base is going to go Tebow crazy, so they can just look him over in camp and preseason, and see if he can be a fit. The biggest part of the win, is he is a competent camp body that gets their defense thinking outside of the box, and their offense is so stable they can afford to take a few practice snaps out of Brady's hands to let the defense see other looks.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1011517]The 30 days isn't for the slap. That 30 days is for the violation of parole. The slap just showed her that he wasn't serious about the situation and denied the plea agreements between the prosecution/defense. It would have been contempt of court had she punished him for the slap itself. Also, according to the ESPN article and her quote, that wasn't the first time he's acted that way in her court. So something tells me that it wasn't this incident alone either, it was just the straw that broke the camel's back.[/quote]

This.

She didn't think he was taking things serious and was treating the Court with disrespect AND it was not an isolated incident. You want to piss off a judge, turn his/her courtroom into a comedy club. While I was surprised she acted so harshly (rejecting the plea agreement), it was certainly not outside the realm of judicial responses I have seen. Most judges take court room decorum VERY seriously. Serious sh** happens there and they expect everyone to behave accordingly.

As NC said, the 30 days wasn't for contempt. It was b/c she refused his plea deal.

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So Joe will he serve 30 days then? Also, could she have suspended time...say 25 days, 29 days?

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[quote=Chico23231;1011512][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9363300/baltimore-ravens-look-trade-vonta-leach-release-source-says]Baltimore Ravens will look to trade Vonta Leach or release him, source says - ESPN[/url]

This is one of those guys who just wins. Move Rice 10 spots down on your draft board.

I really like this because we are going to see immediately just how smart that Flacco contract was...the affect on the team already has been tremendous. If the team wins and Flacco is good, he will deserve a ton of praise, but if he is even average to above average, team average he will deserve everything that is coming his way.[/quote]

flacco cap hit this season is the same as last yr (7 mil?) so the current purge is not all bc of flacco's new contract . . in 2 yrs his cap hit is over 20 mil (i think).

the ravens have ngata and suggs contracts to figure out in a year or so . . i could see them letting both walk.

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[quote=Chico23231;1011518]Doug Martin all day long[/quote]

Yeah but rice or Ryan?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1011566]Yeah but rice or Ryan?[/quote]

I wouldnt keep either. Ryan and Rice rank around the same in terms of their position...probably upper 2nd tier rankings for both.

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[quote=Chico23231;1011557]So Joe will he serve 30 days then? Also, could she have suspended time...say 25 days, 29 days?[/quote]

My guess is the 30 days are set - but I am not sure. It's different from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but I think any appeal to shorten would be through the judge. However, really not my area.

As to what she could or could not do - Generally, judges can do pretty much whatever they want. If their actions are too outrageous, they may be sanctioned later. So, yeah, she could have probably suspended it - or lengthened it - if the mood struck her. Instead, she essentially went with the safest course by going with what had already been decided and simply rejecting the plea deal. In essence, she just reaffirmed a prior ruling and did not insert her own contempt finding.

Very simple rule - Don't f*** around in front of a Judge. Judge's come in all temperments and levels of intelligence. Regardless of whether they are smart, stupid, a**holes or nice, they can [I]all[/I] lock you away or fine you - and will - if you do something they deem contemptous. Even if they are way out of line, your our only recourse is to file motions and hope you have a good lawyer who will get things reviewed quickly. Even then, no guarrantee you get released. If they tell a bailiff to lock you up, you [I]will [/I] spend time in jail.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1011584]Very simple rule - Don't f*** around in front of a Judge. <SNIP>[/quote]

How many times, eh Joe?

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A. Bradshaw signs with the Colts.

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[quote=Giantone;1011594]A. Bradshaw signs with the Colts.[/quote]

On the bright side, you'll be rebuilding for the next 10 years.

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So I am late to the Tebow to the Pats news. Maybe Darth Hoody will brain-wash him and convince him to stop trying to be a QB.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1011541]I see this as a no-cost win/win.
The win for Tebow is obvious. Gets back in football. Minimal controversy, so he can move past the past. Back with McDaniels, and can develop.

[B]The win for the Patriots is less obvious, but also costs them nothing unless he proves he can be of value, but also, they bring in a guy who has lifted the play of an entire team (Denver). [/B]No one in their fan base is going to go Tebow crazy, so they can just look him over in camp and preseason, and see if he can be a fit. The biggest part of the win, is he is a competent camp body that gets their defense thinking outside of the box, and their offense is so stable they can afford to take a few practice snaps out of Brady's hands to let the defense see other looks.[/quote]

So how did he lift the play of the Denver defense that held their own when he kept going 3 and out? Did they decide to play better cause they knew they were going to be on the field more? If that's the case then we should just say the hell w/ RG3 and run out Pat White. I don't understand that comment, nor do I understand the media love affair with someone who completes 45% of his passes.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1011603].... nor do I understand the media love affair with someone who completes 45% of his passes.[/quote]

Jesus sells....Not even kidding.