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Whats the effing PR/KR plan? Anybody?

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I've got high hopes for the pass rush this year. It could really help mask any secondary issues we may have.

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In the return game, I just want a guy who (1) makes good decisions inside the 10; (2) secures the ball; and (3) runs forward. With our offense, anything we get in the return game is a bonus. On PR's it would be nice to have a threat but 1-3 above more critical to me. KR is pretty much a non-issue given the number of TB's. Again, a threat would be nice but simply not critical.

Secure the ball. Move Foward. RGIII & Co. will take it from there.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1020534]In the return game, I just want a guy who (1) makes good decisions inside the 10; (2) secures the ball; and (3) runs forward. With our offense, anything we get in the return game is a bonus. On PR's it would be nice to have a threat but 1-3 above more critical to me. KR is pretty much a non-issue given the number of TB's. Again, a threat would be nice but simply not critical.

[B]Secure the ball. Move Foward. RGIII & Co. will take it from there[/B].[/quote]

winner winner chicken dinner

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[quote=Chico23231;1020531]Whats the effing PR/KR plan? Anybody?[/quote]

I'd like to see Aldrick Robinson and Niles Paul.

One will run by you, the other will run over you.

Chris Thompson had a few nice returns in the last game, but I'm not sure we'll carry that many RBs and he won't be contributing any other way. Brandon Banks didn't prove to work well in terms of carrying a dedicated return man who doesn't do anything else.

We can keep another player in the secondary if we put Thompson on PS...we'll need it.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1020534]In the return game, I just want a guy who (1) makes good decisions inside the 10; (2) secures the ball; and (3) runs forward. With our offense, anything we get in the return game is a bonus. On PR's it would be nice to have a threat but 1-3 above more critical to me. KR is pretty much a non-issue given the number of TB's. Again, a threat would be nice but simply not critical.

[B]Secure the ball. Move Foward. RGIII & Co. will take it from there.[/B][/quote]

Agreed. Hence the concern about the explosive Thompson. It's just a matter of time before he puts the ball on the ground...again.

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Holy crap...this morning on NFL AM..."Feud in Washington". REALLY? Where?


Enough already, media idiots. This is nauseating. His knee is better so they can't talk about that, so they make up fight between he and Shanahan. Did they miss the message on the $10,000 t-shirt last week? Griff is not misbehaving...he even called an extra press conference to straighten the media out on this after they twisted his words and they still steam forward with the apocalyptic dream they're having about us being torn apart.

I can't even tune in for scores without hearing how our coach and QB hate each other.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1020528]I think our D will be fine on obvious passing downs b/c of the plethora of pass rushers we can bring. I feel pretty confident that we can really get pressure with just the front four creatively used in those situations -> Rak, Kerrigan, Tapp, Jenkins, Jackson, Bowen and Cofield create a lot of options for rushing the QB while dropping into coverage.

Our base defense, however, may have problems stopping short and intermediate routes. Isolating Fletcher and the CB's in that short flats and middle would be my goal as an O-Coordinator - grab 4-5 yards there on first or second down to keep the 3rd Down package off the field.

For teams incapable of staying out of obvious passing downs, we could have a fearsome defense.[/quote]

Sounds about right, although if Hall has a good season we'll see him jump some of those short routes for picks. And if Amerson progresses I see him making a great cover corner.

...can't wait to see Rambo get his first pick as a pro. Hope it happens in the first couple games.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1020553]Holy crap...this morning on NFL AM..."Feud in Washington". REALLY? Where?


Enough already, media idiots. This is nauseating. His knee is better so they can't talk about that, so they make up fight between he and Shanahan. Did they miss the message on the $10,000 t-shirt last week? Griff is not misbehaving...he even called an extra press conference to straighten the media out on this after they twisted his words and they still steam forward with the apocalyptic dream they're having about us being torn apart.

[B]I can't even tune in for scores without hearing how our coach and QB hate each other[/B].[/quote]

It really is out of control. Just looking for click throughs or viewers. When you have the most popular QB on the planet on your team they will make up what ever they can to keep him in the news. As a Redskins fan I just cant wait for week 1 when MS and RG are joking around on the sideline smiling. III is the 1st player they have had in WASH that you actually see MS joking around and smiling with. So yeah they have a BIG HUGE GIGANTIC problem with one another. SMH

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sick of it.

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[quote=Meks;1020619]sick of it.[/quote]

Im with you, guess ill try to find some other Skins news,

sh*t:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/26/trask-says-redskins-should-change-their-name-and-logo/]Trask says Redskins should change their name and logo | ProFootballTalk[/url]

:doh:

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1020534]In the return game, I just want a guy who (1) makes good decisions inside the 10; (2) secures the ball; and (3) runs forward. With our offense, anything we get in the return game is a bonus. On PR's it would be nice to have a threat but 1-3 above more critical to me. KR is pretty much a non-issue given the number of TB's. Again, a threat would be nice but simply not critical.

Secure the ball. Move Foward. RGIII & Co. will take it from there.[/quote]

That's all we need. Kickoffs are hardly going to be returnable but if they are, let Paul get it to the 20-25. The offense can move the ball. Just keep it secured.

Crawford was our PR and helped win the Raven game but if we need a spark, it wouldn't be a difficult to have Moss back there.

Thompson should not be back there at all unless we are winning big and give him chances to get some game experience.

If Paul really is the 4th TE, then I vote him to be the KR, PR, and punt coverage ace.

Hopefully, Dawson is on PS for next year Return competition.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1020580]It really is out of control. Just looking for click throughs or viewers. When you have the most popular QB on the planet on your team they will make up what ever they can to keep him in the news. As a Redskins fan I just cant wait for week 1 when MS and RG are joking around on the sideline smiling. III is the 1st player they have had in WASH that you actually see MS joking around and smiling with. So yeah they have a BIG HUGE GIGANTIC problem with one another. SMH[/quote]



They HATE each other obviously.

[img]http://ed_wp-content_v2.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Redskins-Robert-Griffin-III-Mike-Shanahan-Joke-GIF-Part-2.gif[/img]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1020553]Holy crap...this morning on NFL AM..."Feud in Washington". REALLY? Where?


Enough already, media idiots. This is nauseating. His knee is better so they can't talk about that, so they make up fight between he and Shanahan. Did they miss the message on the $10,000 t-shirt last week? Griff is not misbehaving...he even called an extra press conference to straighten the media out on this after they twisted his words and they still steam forward with the apocalyptic dream they're having about us being torn apart.

I can't even tune in for scores without hearing how our coach and QB hate each other.[/quote]

It was LaVar talking about that wasn't it?

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[quote=Monkeydad;1020625]They HATE each other obviously.

[img]http://ed_wp-content_v2.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Redskins-Robert-Griffin-III-Mike-Shanahan-Joke-GIF-Part-2.gif[/img][/quote]

Griffin seems like such a cool dude. Andrew Luck is phenominal IMO. Head over heels better then Russel or Kaep. I think him and RG are on there way to eliteness, but Andrew Luck sounds like Andre the Giant and really doesnt have a personality. I love RG3's willingness to speak his mind and put on a show for the fans.

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[quote=Chico23231;1020620]Im with you, guess ill try to find some other Skins news,

sh*t:

says-redskins-should-change-their-name-and-logo/]Trask says Redskins should change their name and logo | ProFootballTalk[/url]

:doh:[/quote]




[quote] If Trask’s former boss, the late Al Davis, were still with us, it’s hard not to wonder whether Davis would advise Snyder to set his watch to never o’clock.[/quote]


:lol:

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[quote=Monkeydad;1020553]Holy crap...this morning on NFL AM..."Feud in Washington". REALLY? Where?


Enough already, media idiots. This is nauseating. His knee is better so they can't talk about that, so they make up fight between he and Shanahan. Did they miss the message on the $10,000 t-shirt last week? Griff is not misbehaving...he even called an extra press conference to straighten the media out on this after they twisted his words and they still steam forward with the apocalyptic dream they're having about us being torn apart.

I can't even tune in for scores without hearing how our coach and QB hate each other.[/quote]


People really need to stop listening to their shows. I quit complaining about most of the shit they say. Negativity in their eyes is a good thing. Anything that gets the viewer talking about their show and tuning in to see what other controversial things can be said. Stop giving those douche bags a platform. If you got served crappy food at a restaurant, would you continue going back? Hell no. Your media source (whatever it is) should be treated the same way.

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I can't wait till tomorrow. Maybe Donovan McNabb will offer his help...

[quote=Monkeydad;1020553]Holy crap...this morning on NFL AM..."Feud in Washington". REALLY? Where?


Enough already, media idiots. This is nauseating. His knee is better so they can't talk about that, so they make up fight between he and Shanahan. Did they miss the message on the $10,000 t-shirt last week? Griff is not misbehaving...he even called an extra press conference to straighten the media out on this after they twisted his words and they still steam forward with the apocalyptic dream they're having about us being torn apart.

I can't even tune in for scores without hearing how our coach and QB hate each other.[/quote]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1020636]People really need to stop listening to their shows. I quit complaining about most of the shit they say. Negativity in their eyes is a good thing. Anything that gets the viewer talking about their show and tuning in to see what other controversial things can be said. Stop giving those douche bags a platform. If you got served crappy food at a restaurant, would you continue going back? Hell no. Your media source (whatever it is) should be treated the same way.[/quote]

I just wanted to see some scores while I ate breakfast without firing up the computer...is that too much to ask?

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[quote=Monkeydad;1020651]I just wanted to see some scores while I ate breakfast without firing up the computer...is that too much to ask?[/quote]

Score Mobile FTW.

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[quote=JoLo;1020631]Griffin seems like such a cool dude. Andrew Luck is phenominal IMO. Head over heels better then Russel or Kaep. I think him and RG are on there way to eliteness, but Andrew Luck sounds like Andre the Giant and really doesnt have a personality. I love RG3's willingness to speak his mind and put on a show for the fans.[/quote]

Personally I get tired of all his talking to the media. He has only been in the NFL for one year so show me you can perform year after year then run your mouth.

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^^ Where's the love fd?? Where. Is. The. Love???

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[quote=firstdown;1020656]Personally I get tired of all his talking to the media. He has only been in the NFL for one year so show me you can perform year after year then run your mouth.[/quote]

understanding that RG3 is free to do what he wants, promote himself etc and he does so in a very professional and appeasing manner .... i agree with wishing RG3 would talk less to the media (personal press conferences, front page of GQ etc)

i also understand that the media in general is fanning the flames and putting his face everywhere and he cant control that .. but he could do less face time with the media.

i dont agree with the running his mouth part, i dont think he is running his mouth but that "operation patience" t shirt ... while being fun and somewhat harmless it is poking fun and continuing a media made "rift" with the coach.

i cant and dont fault RG but i do wish he did less.

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RGIII talking to the press a lot is to a problem as a mole hill is to a mountain.

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I guess some fans are still beat down from years of not knowing what it's like to have a star QB.

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[quote=firstdown;1020656]Personally I get tired of all his talking to the media. He has only been in the NFL for one year so show me you can perform year after year then run your mouth.[/quote]

If you call what he does "running his mouth," then what would you call what Chad Johnson used to do. That was running your mouth. What Griffin does is extremely professional and does not do anything to create a rift amongst the organization, regardless of what the media says. You have to realize, the kid is practically the face of the NFL right now with what he did last year and how it ended in injury. The offseason, was not about Peyton, was not about Brady, not even about the MVP Adrian Peterson, it was about our quarterback. Obviously with that kind of attention his face is going to be in the media A LOT. I think he has handled it extremely well.

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Interesting take on RG3 in Deadspin online today:

Washington Redskins: There was no aspect of the Redskins' offense that Griffin did not affect in a monumentally positive sense. Griffin is not just another Velveeta spread-boosted quarterback better outside the pocket than in it—unlike Vince Young, Jake Locker, and (gasp) Tim Tebow, he is totally comfortable when asked to stand in the pocket, scan his reads, and fire the stick throw under pressure. Believe it or not, Washington was most efficient going old school. When the quarterback was under center, Washington averaged 6.8 yards per play with 34.1% DVOA. From pistol, Washington averaged 6.4 yards per play with 21.7% DVOA. From shotgun, Washington averaged 5.7 yards per play with 7.5% DVOA. This is not a fluke; Griffin is a real-life, bonafide pocket quarterback who just happens to have three extra gears on the ground. In fact, Griffin's 54.1% passing DVOA under center was the highest for any NFL quarterback in 2012 with more than 100 attempts. (Doug Farrar)

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[quote=Monkeydad;1020651]I just wanted to see some scores while I ate breakfast without firing up the computer...is that too much to ask?[/quote]

Whenever someone tries to do that, it bombs. People say they want to see highlights on TV. But the numbers never back that up. Just like they say they want to watch game replays, but then they don't watch

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I turn it on in the morning while making the kids breakfast and my lunch. Just listening to the Jibber Jabber for the occasional interesting piece of news/insight.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1020661]RGIII talking to the press a lot is to a problem as a mole hill is to a mountain.[/quote]

I don't think it's just talking to the press. He's got the tv ads, the tv shirts, there are hour long specials on his comeback, the magazine covers, all the tweeting....a little too much PR for me. I mean he's literally become a huge PR machine and he's played 14-15 games?

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Griffin is smart to cash in on his celebrity while he can. An NFL career doesn't last long.

Besides, it's not like he doesn't have his priorities in order. The guy is a true pro when it comes to preparing himself both mentally and physically to play the game. I'm perfectly fine with what he does off the field.

Some people are just never happy I guess.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1020707]I don't think it's just talking to the press. He's got the tv ads, the tv shirts, there are hour long specials on his comeback, the magazine covers, all the tweeting....a little too much PR for me. I mean he's literally become a huge PR machine and he's played 14-15 games?[/quote]

Is he Donovan "self-promoter" McNabb? Doesn't appear to be to me. He's young, rich, charismatic and uber talented. Everywhere he goes, people chant his name - I swear if he showed up at a McD's at midnight on a Thursday in March the place would break out into chants of "RGIII ... RGIII". The media knows what sells and this kid sells.

You better get used to it. When all is said and done, he is going to be more obsequious than Peyton Manning, Bo Jackson or Michael Jordan.

... and all the fame could vanish in a moment. Let the boy play ... as long as it doesn't affect his play.

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Very glad RG3 is our QB. I love kid and everything he stands for. I just prefer that he tones it down a bit but that's just grumpy old me.

I remember early in training camp Griffin responded to a question by saying as long as the team isn't distracted he was good responding to the media and enjoying the limelight, but if it becomes a distraction he would tone it down. Once the media tried to spin his comments into a rift I think he did just that, he stepped up said enough is enough, and at his next press conference he made pointed jabs at the media about how they weren't asking any questions/comments about the offensive line. That pretty much moved the conversation in the local media forward. The national media will follow but they tend to hold on to the sensationalistic headlines a bit longer. Griffin, in my eyes, gets it, he gets that the media will give him a stage, and he doesn't shrink from it, and he gets that the team is going to be directly impacted by how he acts on that same stage.

I am really looking forward to the special today, and to what he does on the field this year.

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[quote=Mattyk;1020709]Griffin is smart to cash in on his celebrity while he can. An NFL career doesn't last long.

Besides, it's not like he doesn't have his priorities in order. The guy is a true pro when it comes to preparing himself both mentally and physically to play the game. I'm perfectly fine with what he does off the field.

Some people are just never happy I guess.[/quote]

All of this

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[quote=Mattyk;1020709]Griffin is smart to cash in on his celebrity while he can. An NFL career doesn't last long.

Besides, it's not like he doesn't have his priorities in order. The guy is a true pro when it comes to preparing himself both mentally and physically to play the game. I'm perfectly fine with what he does off the field.

Some people are just never happy I guess.[/quote]


This.

There isn't much (if any) that I would change about RGIII. We've been dreaming of having a guy like this on our franchise for so long, so to start complaining about non-issues is disheartening to say the least. Enjoy the ride people.

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[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/26/nfl-under-the-radar-rookies/?sct=nfl_t1t_a3]Under-the-radar impact rookies: Kenbrell Thompkins, Kenny Stills, Bacarri Rambo | Audibles - SI.com[/url]

Rambo..

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1020711]Is he Donovan "self-promoter" McNabb? Doesn't appear to be to me. He's young, rich, charismatic and uber talented. Everywhere he goes, people chant his name - I swear if he showed up at a McD's at midnight on a Thursday in March the place would break out into chants of "RGIII ... RGIII". The media knows what sells and this kid sells.

You better get used to it. When all is said and done, he is going to be more obsequious than Peyton Manning, Bo Jackson or Michael Jordan.

... and all the fame could vanish in a moment. Let the boy play ... as long as it doesn't affect his play.[/quote]

I don't see him like McNabb at all. Part of it really isn't even his own fault. The media has crowned the guy before he's even really done anything.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1020755]I don't see him like McNabb at all. Part of it really isn't even his own fault. The media has crowned the guy before he's even really done anything.[/quote]

Well, the media crowned him based on the Skins' megatrade. At that point he was destined for media spotlight whether he succeeds or fails. Fortunately for Skins fans everywhere, it seems apparent that it will be based on success.

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[url=http://trainingcamp.blogs.timesdispatch.com/2013/08/27/rgiii-im-not-below-100-percent/]RGIII: "I'm not below 100 percent" - Richmond Times-Dispatch[/url]

anybody watch the doc tonight?