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warriorzpath 04-10-2014 08:06 PM

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Actually Jimmie ward had 7 interceptions in 2013, but no one else above him- beats 6 ints

SmootSmack 04-10-2014 09:06 PM

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[quote=ICantGoAnother20yrsOfCrap;1067816]We have too many holes to fill to go after the dream TE set this year. We have to go O or D line with that first pick. Don't care who falls to us. Strong trenches make the skilled players 1,000 times better.[/quote]

I would be surprised if we go DL with our first pick, slightly less surprised if we go OL

SirLK26 04-10-2014 09:15 PM

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[quote=warriorzpath;1068063]I think Bucannon's much better in coverage than cbs sports gives him credit for- 6 interceptions in 2013 is better than the safeties rated above him. Before that 2012- 4 interceptions and 2011- 3 ints. 4.49 In the 40 tops all of them too.[/quote]

I agree that Bucannon is better in coverage than most give him credit for. 6 INTs is 6 INTs, after all. He can't play man-to-man that well, but as long as he's playing zone, his pass coverage is solid. And he hits so hard that he forces a lot of dropped passes. But the best part about his game is that even though he hits ferociously hard, he's a reliable tackler. That alone could make him a starter immediately in our secondary.

SirLK26 04-10-2014 09:17 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1068067]I would be surprised if we go DL with our first pick, slightly less surprised if we go OL[/quote]

Even if an immediate starter at RT is available? Can't see Gruden passing that up. What position do you think we'll address first?

MTK 04-10-2014 09:53 PM

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Bpa

SmootSmack 04-10-2014 09:54 PM

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[quote=SirLK26;1068069]Even if an immediate starter at RT is available? Can't see Gruden passing that up. What position do you think we'll address first?[/quote]

I'm not sure an immediate starter at RT will be available

I'm not sure what position we'll address first. I thought WR. Now I don't think so. I lean TE or DB (could be CB or FS or hybrid)

If it were me, I'd go BPA at a position of need and I think you could find some good starting caliber LBs at #34

Dirtbag59 04-10-2014 10:07 PM

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BPA within reason. IE say you have a tackle and WR with very similar grades (in this case lets say the WR is graded at 8.7 and the OT is graded at 8.4) go with the tackle. If you have a CB that grades out at a 8.9 and your next player at a position of need grades out at 7.8 then either trade down or take the CB. So long as we don't have a repeat of the dreaded 2008 draft I'm fine with BPA.

Not to sound like my cousin you know who but I kind of hope they come away with a viable TE. Not that I don't like Jordan Reed, on the contrary, but I do have concerns about his durability going forward. Hopefully the first year bumps are just him adjusting to the more physical nature of the NFL particularly having to adjust to a 16 game season. Plus I think TE is my favorite position in all of football. I'm the type of guy that would rather have Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates in their prime above even Megatron and Randy Moss.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-10-2014 10:20 PM

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I like the idea of BPA, I also like the idea of Jace Amaro at 34, for some reason I have become enamored with him

Lotus 04-10-2014 10:33 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1068082]I like the idea of BPA, [B]I also like the idea of Jace Amaro at 34, for some reason I have become enamored with him[/B][/quote]

I would not be at all surprised if we nab Amaro. And that will be fine with me.

SirLK26 04-10-2014 10:35 PM

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BPA at a position of need is the way to go. The only positions I don't want to draft at #34 are QB, RB, WR, K, P, and OLB.

SmootSmack mentioned a versatile FS/CB at #34. Sounds like my boy Lamarcus Joyner is the man. WalterFootball has him going in the 3rd, though; if anyone drafts that guy in the 3rd or late 2nd, they'll be arrested for stealing. That would be f****** awesome to draft Joyner in the 3rd.

And I certainly wouldn't be mad if Jace Amaro is the pick. We need another TE, whether Reed stays healthy or not.

warriorzpath 04-11-2014 03:35 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1068074]I'm not sure an immediate starter at RT will be available

I'm not sure what position we'll address first. I thought WR. Now I don't think so. I lean TE or DB (could be CB or FS or hybrid)

If it were me, I'd go BPA at a position of need and I think you could find some good starting caliber LBs at #34[/quote]

The only inside lb I've seen so far that I like is CJ Moseley. The rest seem to be way too slow. Haven't seen many olb but they don't seem to be any better than what the Redskins already have.

warriorzpath 04-11-2014 03:41 PM

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Immediate starters from the draft at positions of need seem to be at db, guard, and right tackle. In that order. And if Jason Verrett is there at 34- need to snatch him up- this guys skills are top 10 talent.

warriorzpath 04-11-2014 03:47 PM

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Jason Verrett covering slot should be shutdown-like. The Victor Cruzes of the nfl should be worried. The more I think about it - the less it seems like he'll be there at 34.

Gary84Clark 04-11-2014 07:30 PM

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Priority #1 to next season's success is making sure our starting ILB opposite Riley is able to cover. Whether it be through crook or through hook, we need to make sure we take care of that. At this point it is the most effective way to improve our win/loss percentage.

warriorzpath 04-11-2014 07:48 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1068155]Priority #1 to next season's success is making sure our starting ILB opposite Riley is able to cover. Whether it be through crook or through hook, we need to make sure we take care of that. At this point it is the most effective way to improve our win/loss percentage.[/quote]


The best option for that is on the Redskins roster - Keenan Robinson. If anyone sees a better option, let us and the Redskins know because I sure can't find a good option in the upcoming draft unless you start considering an OLB like Shazier. Most of these OLBs in college can get pushed around pretty easily by offensive linemen though.

Gary84Clark 04-11-2014 07:57 PM

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Clearly Bruce Allen is raising the floor. The players we have and keep adding depth players who are gonna be future starters only 2 stop gaps, if Thomas wins the job or psycho killer gets suspended again.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-11-2014 08:26 PM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1068157]Clearly Bruce Allen is raising the floor. The players we have and keep adding depth players who are gonna be future starters only 2 stop gaps, if Thomas wins the job or [B]psycho crusher[/B] gets suspended again.[/quote]

Fixed it for you.


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZcPGxoK8Q[/url]

warriorzpath 04-13-2014 02:26 PM

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Not the only one that thinks that Washington State S Deone Buchannon would be a steal in the 3rd Round.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000341032/article/deone-bucannon-is-a-firstround-2014-draft-pick-analyst-says]Deone Bucannon is a first-round 2014 draft pick, analyst says - NFL.com[/url]

warriorzpath 04-13-2014 03:11 PM

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... speaking of safeties- last year so many here were against me saying - do NOT start Rambo after the first 2 preseason games. Everyone was willing to concede that the Redskins with him were going to have bad safety play just as long as he got experience. But no one knows what they are really accepting until it happens. I just couldn't believe that the Redskins actually let him start the first games of the season.

warriorzpath 04-13-2014 03:16 PM

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... And it was nothing really against Rambo, but he wasn't close to being ready to play, let alone start a game.

He can still turn out to be a good player, but starting him off like that has definitely put him back.

Orakpwned 04-13-2014 03:26 PM

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I really like Jason Verrett out of TCU. If he is there in the 2nd round lets take him.

Orakpwned 04-13-2014 03:30 PM

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[quote=warriorzpath;1068244]Not the only one that thinks that Washington State S Deone Buchannon would be a steal in the 3rd Round.
[/quote]

I think that would be a great pick.

Orakpwned 04-13-2014 03:31 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1068074]I'm not sure an immediate starter at RT will be available

I'm not sure what position we'll address first. I thought WR. Now I don't think so. I lean TE or DB (could be CB or FS or hybrid)

If it were me, I'd go BPA at a position of need and I think you could find some good starting caliber LBs at #34[/quote]

Joel Bitonio out of Nevada may be around. Could start from day 1.

budw38 04-13-2014 07:00 PM

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[quote=Orakpwned;1068250]Joel Bitonio out of Nevada may be around. Could start from day 1.[/quote] A lot of " guru's " seem really high on him . Not so w/ M Moses here ... [url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/4/13/5610096/just-say-no-to-morgan-moses-in-the-second]Just Say No...........To Morgan Moses in the Second - Hogs Haven[/url]

diehardskin2982 04-14-2014 10:37 AM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/14/second-round-could-see-a-run-on-quarterbacks/]Second round could see a run on quarterbacks | ProFootballTalk[/url]

An opportunity to trade down...

Irrefutable 04-15-2014 01:42 PM

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Stanford T Cameron Fleming visiting Redskin park today

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=107353&draftyear=2014&genpos=OT]*Cameron Fleming | Stanford, OT : 2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

NYCskinfan82 04-15-2014 02:16 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1068437]Stanford T Cameron Fleming visiting Redskin park today

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=107353&draftyear=2014&genpos=OT]*Cameron Fleming*|*Stanford,*OT*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url][/quote]

I like this guy a RT they say he has slow feet but I think/hope he could be our future RT.

SirLK26 04-15-2014 03:01 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1068441]I like this guy a RT they say he has slow feet but I think/hope he could be our future RT.[/quote]

Yeah, Fleming has slow feet in pass blocking and struggles against speed rushers. I think he'd be better suited at OG in the NFL. He's got great size, though, and is a nice run blocker.

Chico23231 04-15-2014 03:07 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1068437]Stanford T Cameron Fleming visiting Redskin park today

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=107353&draftyear=2014&genpos=OT]*Cameron Fleming*|*Stanford,*OT*:*2014 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url][/quote]

got a strong feeling SFREDSKINS would endorse this pick. gut feeling

SFREDSKIN 04-15-2014 05:06 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1068445]got a strong feeling SFREDSKINS would endorse this pick. gut feeling[/quote]

Damn right!! Very good T

NYCskinfan82 04-15-2014 06:53 PM

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WR Brandon Coleman Rutgers visited per Emmanual Benton.

Irrefutable 04-15-2014 07:22 PM

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Tackles Morgan Moses, and Antonio Richardson visiting now. OLBs coming in soon... they include Demarcus Lawrence, and Marcus Smith

Dirtbag59 04-15-2014 08:44 PM

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I have a new random late round favorite. Oklahoma FB Rey Millard.
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At 6'1 247 he's basically Mike Sellers [URL="http://youtu.be/tkmi_UTsjtE"]Mini-Me[/URL].

5.5 YPC on 98 career rushing attempts. 677 Yard receiving with 70 catches for his career.

Has potential as a Goal Line back. Excellent toughness. Solid blocker. Above average receiver out of the backfield.

The catch though......tore his ACL back in October.

artmonkforhallofamein07 04-16-2014 10:29 AM

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I would pass on a FB, Darrel Young is one of the best in the league. No need to waste a pick

skinsfan69 04-16-2014 11:24 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1068452]Damn right!! Very good T[/quote]

Those Stanford linemen are road graders!

SFREDSKIN 04-16-2014 10:01 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1068494]Those Stanford linemen are road graders![/quote]

That's exactly what we need instead of these light OL that get abused by DL's an DE's.

Irrefutable 04-17-2014 12:06 AM

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Attaochu visiting too

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/4/16/5622896/jeremiah-attaochu-reportedly-scheduled-to-meet-with-the-redskins]OLB Jeremiah Attaochu Meeting With The Redskins - Hogs Haven[/url]

Chico23231 04-17-2014 10:19 AM

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Interesting we are looking at OLB, is the plan to move on from Kerrigan or Orakpo?

Irrefutable 04-17-2014 10:34 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1068565]Interesting we are looking at OLB, is the plan to move on from Kerrigan or Orakpo?[/quote]

Orakpo is a free agent next year, Kerrigan may be too.

Chico23231 04-17-2014 10:42 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1068566]Orakpo is a free agent next year, Kerrigan may be too.[/quote]

right, so who you moving on from?

Interesting we are not bring in any secondary so far. I would think they would be on the radar.

I still think we go TE now with the first pick, but not hearing about anyone being brought in...


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