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[quote=bigant;1063252]thats why the redskins are a joke, instead of[COLOR="Red"][B] solifying [/B][/COLOR]one area of need we still have the same problems as last yr. and more problems next yr when we have more free agents plus we still have to sign rak to a long term deal,don,t even know if we are better than last yr.any word on graham and a. smith visiting if we are going to sign them?[/quote]

Almost as good as rewalsr.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1063254]I always thought the joke on the Skins was making that splash signing for one position, and letting the whole of the roster languish. Guess I misunderstood.[/quote]

Love how they get killed for spending too much one year, and not enough the next.

Plus hasn't the offseason just started?

We're barely 24 hrs into free agency.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1063261]Maybe we are satisfied with the choices we expect to have in the draft.[/quote]

Im no expert, but whose there in the second round? I heard a scout say on radio last week the draft was deep at alot of positions, safety was one of the least deep.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1063128]The Panthers showed that you don't need to have a secondary like the Seahawks to have a dominant defense, your front seven dominates and your back four will be just fine, so maybe that is what Washington is thinking. Not to mention we do have some young guys in our secondary, maybe they are high on one or two of these guys.[/quote]

If that was the case don't you think they would have pushed harder and tried to sign one of the big name DT or DE's by now? To me the top priority for them this year is cheap/affordable players. They know they're not going to transform this team in one offseason and they're trying to give Gruden a base to work off of, starting with the O Line. Makes sense, but no fun to watch as a fan in the off season.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1063261]Maybe we are satisfied with the choices we expect to have in the draft.[/quote]

And Philip Thomas?

We're essentially getting an extra 2nd-round talent player with him coming back. We stole him in last year's draft.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1063224][url]https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/443805408290168833[/url]

Yep, also just came to post that Ryan Clark is coming to town (for a visit).[/quote]

OK, but we can't pay him too much or he'll lose his Social Security benefit.

This is flippin' ridiculous. We let him go to Pittsburgh to play most of his good years and now we want to pick him up as he declines. Smells like desperation to me. Bad, bad move, IMO.

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[quote=Chico23231;1063264]Im no expert, but whose there in the second round? I heard a scout say on radio last week the draft was deep at alot of positions, safety was one of the least deep.[/quote]

Maybe we don't plan to stay in the second. Maybe Kirk and our second move us up into a spot in the first where we get a safety.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1063268]And Philip Thomas?

We're essentially getting an extra 2nd-round talent player with him coming back. We stole him in last year's draft.[/quote]

Also a good plan.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1063268]And Philip Thomas?

We're essentially getting an extra 2nd-round talent player with him coming back. We stole him in last year's draft.[/quote]

Thomas is a year behind and still a rookie. Rambo showed he doesnt belong on the field. Ryan Clark, how much does he have left? Shit give me Merriweather and T Jax.

Im not happy about no starting FS and SS.

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Maybe the plan is to let Thomas and Rambo duke it out at SS and count on TJax to return successfully to FS.

I'm not saying it's a good plan...but it is a plan.

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I have to agree -- I think it is a mistake not to sign at least one possible starting safety given our current status. Not saying we had to break the bank for Byrd (in fact, I am glad we didn't), but there were others (we could have afforded Mike Mitchell, for example), and it doesn't seem like there's much FA safety talent left.

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Question: if we get TJax back, will he be better than Mitchell or some other reasonably priced FA?

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[quote=Lotus;1063282]Question: if we get TJax back, will he be better than Mitchell or some other reasonably priced FA?[/quote]

I would say no and I think we will bring him back.

When you look at the deals TJ Ward and Jenkins got, its tough to say we couldnt compete with those.

You cant pay that type of money for Whitner or Byrd imo or even Mitchell. But there is no reason not to bring Clemons in on deal comparable to a no name Guard from Cleveland. Sorry, im not buying it.

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I'm not even counting on Tanard. It's suspicious how Browner gets off his "indefinite" suspension so quickly but Jackson gets completely ignored for reinstatement.

I guess Tanard should have threatened to sue the league like Browner did.

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Wake me up when another team signs Hasslett.

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[quote=calia;1063280]I have to agree -- I think it is a mistake not to sign at least one possible starting safety given our current status. Not saying we had to break the bank for Byrd (in fact, I am glad we didn't), but there were others (we could have afforded Mike Mitchell, for example), and it doesn't seem like there's much FA safety talent left.[/quote]

As stated multiple times in multiple threads already, it is a two way street. Players have to WANT to come here too.

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paying 5mill+ for a safety is kind of a waste when he might be a product of carolina's front seven.

we may just draft there, no need to panic yet. and we're actively looking for a DT, DE, and CB right now, it'd be hard to sign them and give a safety a jumbo deal. I imagine a FS/ILB will be two of our top three picks. and i'd bet the other one will be on a DE or OG.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1063292]As stated multiple times in multiple threads already, it is a two way street. Players have to WANT to come here too.[/quote]

I don't disagree, although I would be curious to see reports about efforts we made that were rebuffed (if any).

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BTW, does anyone know anything about TJax? Is there any prospect that he will be reinstated, or is the guy done? It seems crazy that he'd be in limbo for so long -- it seems to me that there should be a Y/N decision on the reinstatement request. If the answer is N, then he (and we) can move on. But regardless of the infraction, it seems unfair to let him twist in the wind indefinitely.

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[quote=calia;1063307]BTW, does anyone know anything about TJax? Is there any prospect that he will be reinstated, or is the guy done? It seems crazy that he'd be in limbo for so long -- it seems to me that there should be a Y/N decision on the reinstatement request. If the answer is N, then he (and we) can move on. But regardless of the infraction, it seems unfair to let him twist in the wind indefinitely.[/quote]

I thought someone reported he missed several drug test while he's been suspended that's why he hasn't been reinstated.

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[quote=calia;1063304]I don't disagree, although I would be curious to see reports about efforts we made that were rebuffed (if any).[/quote]

There was definitely interest in Mitchell, he was one of the first calls made once the legal tampering period opened. Perhaps he just preferred going to the Steelers, maybe the $$ was a little better, maybe both.

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Chris Russell ‏@Russellmania980 3m
Cooley just said on the 5/25 offer for Mitchell "I think that (the #Redskins) were relatively close." Feels Mitchell wanted #Steelers more

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Derelle Revis anyone? Just released by
Bucs. I believe we'd have the money to sign him...

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fu*k Tanard Jackson.

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Also Julius Peppers on the market

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1063308]I thought someone reported he missed several drug test while he's been suspended that's why he hasn't been reinstated.[/quote]

If that is true, what a bonehead.

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[quote=Lotus;1063317]If that is true, what a bonehead.[/quote]

Like I said, I think someone posted that here.

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[quote=Mattyk;1063310]Chris Russell ‏@Russellmania980 3m
Cooley just said on the 5/25 offer for Mitchell "I think that (the #Redskins) were relatively close." Feels Mitchell wanted #Steelers more[/quote]

Yeah, people are WAY too invested in caring about Mitchell, like he was destined for here. Nevermind the mixed reviews of him last season, which was his best, Twitter said he was a priority so we HAVE TO HAVE HIM!

Anyways, as long as the position is addressed with someone other than/better than Merriweather or Doughty then I'm fine trusting the process.

As for T. Jackson, why are people excited about him? Hasn't seen an NFL regular season snap since 2011. Probably a wine cooler away from a full lifetime ban. Are we THAT desperate for someone else to play safety?

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Yes, we are.

But I'm with you, I don't ever expect to see him suit up for us.

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[quote=Paintrain;1063321]Yeah, people are WAY too invested in caring about Mitchell, like he was destined for here. Nevermind the mixed reviews of him last season, which was his best, Twitter said he was a priority so we HAVE TO HAVE HIM!

Anyways, as long as the position is addressed with someone other than/better than Merriweather or Doughty then I'm fine trusting the process.

As for T. Jackson, why are people excited about him? Hasn't seen an NFL regular season snap since 2011. Probably a wine cooler away from a full lifetime ban. [B]Are we THAT desperate for someone else to play safety?[/B][/quote]

Yes.

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[quote=Paintrain;1063321]Yeah, people are WAY too invested in caring about Mitchell, like he was destined for here. Nevermind the mixed reviews of him last season, which was his best, Twitter said he was a priority so we HAVE TO HAVE HIM!

Anyways, as long as the position is addressed with someone other than/better than Merriweather or Doughty then I'm fine trusting the process.

As for T. Jackson, why are people excited about him? Hasn't seen an NFL regular season snap since 2011. Probably a wine cooler away from a full lifetime ban. [B]Are we THAT desperate for someone else to play safety?[/B][/quote]

Clearly yes.

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That's a truly sad state of affairs that the mere hope of what Jackson could be represents a tangible upgrade from what we have. Don't get me wrong, we need better players but I won't feel an iota more comfortable with him on the roster than I did with Merriweather, Doughty, Rambo and Gumbs. He's on their level or worse.

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Once Jackson is officially let go, then we can completely dismiss him. Until then there's still a chance, even if it's remote. The guy is 28, could still have some good ball left in him.

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[quote=Paintrain;1063321][B]Yeah, people are WAY too invested in caring about Mitchell, like he was destined for here[/B]. Nevermind the mixed reviews of him last season, which was his best, Twitter said he was a priority so we HAVE TO HAVE HIM!

Anyways, as long as the position is addressed with someone other than/better than Merriweather or Doughty then I'm fine trusting the process.

As for T. Jackson, why are people excited about him? Hasn't seen an NFL regular season snap since 2011. Probably a wine cooler away from a full lifetime ban. Are we THAT desperate for someone else to play safety?[/quote]

I just find it hard to believe Ryan Clark was the fall back. Thats the problem, apperently we thought he was destined to be here. Really Bruce?

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[quote=Paintrain;1063327]That's a truly sad state of affairs that the mere hope of what Jackson could be represents a tangible upgrade from what we have. Don't get me wrong, we need better players but I won't feel an iota more comfortable with him on the roster than I did with Merriweather, Doughty, Rambo and Gumbs. He's on their level or worse.[/quote]

He was a solid player when he played, i'm sure he's been working out. He needs to get back in football shape and attend every training session, the key is when will he be reinstated.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1063340]He was a solid player when he played, i'm sure he's been working out. He needs to get back in football shape and attend every training session, [B]the key is when will he be reinstated.[/B][/quote]

Apparently the key is when will he show up for piss tests.

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[quote=Chico23231;1063336]I just find it hard to believe Ryan Clark was the fall back. Thats the problem, apperently we thought he was destined to be here. Really Bruce?[/quote]

It was probably more like Mitchell and Byrd (just not at his price), and now on to plan C. Stop gap vets, and wait and see who might get released. Then look to the draft.

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[quote=Paintrain;1063321]Yeah, people are WAY too invested in caring about Mitchell, like he was destined for here. Nevermind the mixed reviews of him last season, which was his best, Twitter said he was a priority so we HAVE TO HAVE HIM!

Anyways, as long as the position is addressed with someone other than/better than Merriweather or Doughty then I'm fine trusting the process.

As for T. Jackson, why are people excited about him? Hasn't seen an NFL regular season snap since 2011. Probably a wine cooler away from a full lifetime ban. Are we THAT desperate for someone else to play safety?[/quote]

You make a good point about Mitchell.

But otherwise, when did we last see average (not good, just average) FS play? It's been years.

When did we last see average SS play? Outside of a few cameo appearances by Meriweather, it's been years.

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[quote=Chico23231;1063264]Im no expert, but whose there in the second round? I heard a scout say on radio last week the draft was deep at alot of positions, safety was one of the least deep.[/quote]

Certainly, this safety class isn't as deep as last year's, but there'll be some good ones available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Calvin Pryor from Louisville(possibly late 1st), Jimmie Ward from Northern Illinois, Deone Bucannon from Washington State, and Terrence Brooks from Florida State will all be drafted in the 2nd-3rd rounds. Pryor and Brooks would probably be our best bets among those listed, being free safeties. My favorite is Deone Bucannon; he's more of a strong safety.

I'd rather rely on Reed Doughty to start at Safety than rely on T Jax. The guy is a effing bum who can't pass a piss test to save his life. He hasn't played a single snap in 2 whole seasons. I am completely mind blown at how many times his name has been dropped in this thread and by people that seem to know wtf they are usually talking about.

And at the end of the day I don't want jackasses like this anywhere near my effing team. If smokin and jokin is his priorities then give him F Davis' # and been done w him already, good riddance.

#itsoooooooooverfortanard

#weneedsafetiesbaaaaaad

#iwantwinners