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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1098937][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-reasons-why-robert-griffin-iii-will-be-redskins--starting-qb-in-2015-133508530-nfl.html[/url][/quote]

great read. I totally agree with it. It is why I say both jay and robert will be here this time next year.

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[URL="http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/redskins-players-are-fighting-each-other-in-practice-now"]Today's practice[/URL]

I like that RG3 was one of the guys trying to break it up, i don't like that the coaching staff didn't.

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[quote=Hijinx;1098951][URL="http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/redskins-players-are-fighting-each-other-in-practice-now"]Today's practice[/URL]

I like that RG3 was one of the guys trying to break it up, i don't like that the coaching staff didn't.[/quote]


The Glorious Gruden era is in full swing

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1098961]The Glorious Gruden era is in full swing[/quote]

He's gotta go. The lack of leadership from the HC "position" is killing this team, and he totally failed setting up leadership in the locker room.

Sick of looking at his jowly face too.

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[quote=Hijinx;1098951][URL="http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/redskins-players-are-fighting-each-other-in-practice-now"]Today's practice[/URL]

I like that RG3 was one of the guys trying to break it up, i don't like that the coaching staff didn't.[/quote]

RG3 wasn't breaking it up. I think you're confusing RG3 with Ryan Grant.

RG3 is seen briefly in the background away from the scuffle in a yellow jersey, throwing a pass while the fight ensued.

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Gruden will be back and RG-3 will not. We have cap money and a full compliment of draft picks. It is imperative that we get a real GM here pronto.


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[quote=Fiversons;1098589]No proven or highly sought after coach would... In fact, most of them would already have us crossed out when the process starts...[/quote]

there are 32 of the jobs in the world . . . and far more eligible coaches (good qualified coaches) than that

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1098937][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/five-reasons-why-robert-griffin-iii-will-be-redskins--starting-qb-in-2015-133508530-nfl.html[/url][/QUOTE]


I stopped reading as soon as they tried to draw comparison to Rodgers. His future was in doubt because Favre decided to come back and the Packers were going to trade Rodgers. His future was not in doubt because he sucked.


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[QUOTE=Rotten1980;1098968]He's gotta go. The lack of leadership from the HC "position" is killing this team, and he totally failed setting up leadership in the locker room.



Sick of looking at his jowly face too.[/QUOTE]


He isnt killing this team. This team was six feet under when he got here.


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[quote=punch it in;1098983]I stopped reading as soon as they tried to draw comparison to Rodgers. His future was in doubt because Favre decided to come back and the Packers were going to trade Rodgers. His future was not in doubt because he sucked.


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You should have kept reading. There's not a lot of articles about Griffin being wrote anymore that aren't just piling on the negativity. It's a good read.

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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1098985]You should have kept reading. There's not a lot of articles about Griffin being wrote anymore that aren't just piling on the negativity. It's a good read.[/QUOTE]


You convinced me to read it. The problem is that the article is based on the premise that with health and confidence back RG-3 will be great again. What about the fact that the 2012 offense isnt coming back? That teams are able to key on that now like they do with Kap in San Fran?
He alludes to Cooleys breakdown of Griff, but than just brushes that off again with confidence issues. He seems to think it is all mental. Imo Griff is just not a good QB, whether he is "mentally" ready to be one or not. Im mentally ready to be a millionaire, but guess what? Lol.
If Griff is ever a great QB I will be very surprised. If he is ever a great QB in Washington I will be very surprised, and ecstatic. I just dont see it, but Stranger things have happened.


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[quote=DynamiteRave;1098974]RG3 wasn't breaking it up. I think you're confusing RG3 with Ryan Grant.

RG3 is seen briefly in the background away from the scuffle in a yellow jersey, throwing a pass while the fight ensued.[/quote]

At the 18 - 20 second mark he comes over to kind of say clamp down, fight was over at the point but B for effort.

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[quote=punch it in;1098984]He isnt killing this team. This team was six feet under when he got here.


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Can you turn off your Tapatalk sig? Gets annoying, it's in the settings.

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[quote=punch it in;1098983]I stopped reading as soon as they tried to draw comparison to Rodgers. His future was in doubt because Favre decided to come back and the Packers were going to trade Rodgers. His future was not in doubt because he sucked.


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I have tried to tell you this before, but you insist that Aaron Rodgers was a cant miss from day one.

The first few years, the Packers started thinking that taking Rodgers was a mistake. He was a Tedford disciple and the Packers had to redo everything about Rodgers when he arrived in GB, his footwork, technique, everything. They didnt think he would ever turn it around those first couple of years.

People think im insane for saying this but... Rodgers would not have made it in the NFL without the complete makeover the Packers gave him.

I also keep trying to say this but people think im also nuts for saying this... Developing QB's in the NFL matters. Not only personal development but also having a good team around them where they dont have to carry a team.

I just wish at some point that we had a coach who would actually do that. I personally differ with you that RG3 cant be a good QB again. Having said that, he may be ruined forever. That still doesnt change that we arent getting one of the greats and need a coach who does more than just say if you cant run my offense, then you arent my guy (Gruden) or one that didnt even try to develop a QB because the choice was pushed onto him (Shanahan).

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[quote=SmootSmack;1098848]I'm surprised Wade Phillips doesn't get more consideration for HC

I think I'd love Rex Ryan here

There are two names I know are at the top of a potential wish list. Won't name them now. One might really piss you off[/quote]

I thought gruden was safe for another year?

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1098993]Can you turn off your Tapatalk sig? Gets annoying, it's in the settings.[/QUOTE]


I tried i wasnt able to do it on my phone. Whenever the app crashes it reverts back to it. Ill try again.


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A lot of RGIII issues are related to lacking confidence (playing scared since the ankle injury). Just look at his body language, he also needs to learn to play in the pocket. Around here they are
Comparing the 2 (RGIII & Kap)to not trusting their OL's.

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[QUOTE=Skinzman;1098996]I have tried to tell you this before, but you insist that Aaron Rodgers was a cant miss from day one.



The first few years, the Packers started thinking that taking Rodgers was a mistake. He was a Tedford disciple and the Packers had to redo everything about Rodgers when he arrived in GB, his footwork, technique, everything. They didnt think he would ever turn it around those first couple of years.



People think im insane for saying this but... Rodgers would not have made it in the NFL without the complete makeover the Packers gave him.



I also keep trying to say this but people think im also nuts for saying this... Developing QB's in the NFL matters. Not only personal development but also having a good team around them where they dont have to carry a team.



I just wish at some point that we had a coach who would actually do that. I personally differ with you that RG3 cant be a good QB again. Having said that, he may be ruined forever. That still doesnt change that we arent getting one of the greats and need a coach who does more than just say if you cant run my offense, then you arent my guy (Gruden) or one that didnt even try to develop a QB because the choice was pushed onto him (Shanahan).[/QUOTE]


I never said Rodgers was a "cant miss" since day one. Obviously he dropped in the draft for a reason.
I think what I said last time we discussed this had to do with Rodgers first year "starting". What I said was the fanbase quickly forgot about Favre once Rodgers took over. Not overnight, but it did not take very long to ses the guy could play once he was the starter and his insane numbers back that up.


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[QUOTE=mredskins;1098993]Can you turn off your Tapatalk sig? Gets annoying, it's in the settings.[/QUOTE]


When I go into settings/edit sig - i do not see it there? Ive done this before and never had a problem with it. I just retyped my sig and re saved. Lets see....


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Then there's this, I disagree that his confidence is sky high.

[url=http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/12/10/robert-griffin-iiis-confidence-remains-sky-high-despite-uncertain-situation/]Robert Griffin III’s confidence remains ‘sky high’ despite uncertain situation - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1098974]RG3 wasn't breaking it up. I think you're confusing RG3 with Ryan Grant.

RG3 is seen briefly in the background away from the scuffle in a yellow jersey, throwing a pass while the fight ensued.[/quote]

what you apparently surmised to be "throwing a pass" was actually cleverly disguised Jedi mind tricks for the...ceasing of hostilities.
Anyway...FIGHT in Practice????? Cannot be tolerated!!! fire the coach....idiots

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1099009]what you apparently surmised to be "throwing a pass" was actually cleverly disguised Jedi mind tricks for the...ceasing of hostilities.

Anyway...FIGHT in Practice????? Cannot be tolerated!!! fire the coach....idiots[/QUOTE]


Lol.
Seriously who gives a shite. Happens all the time. Only difference is as Skins fans we look for underlying reasons why the fight happened so we can cast blame.

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I still have faith in rg3 he's our guy ill always back him until he's out of Washington

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[quote=mbedner3420;1098997]I thought gruden was safe for another year?[/quote]

..always have a backup plan. Never know.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1099018]..always have a backup plan. Never know.[/quote]I don't think this franchise under Snyder has ever had a plan, as far as team management. Except maybe that one time St. Gibbs was here, and we looked like a professional organization for once under Snyder, and there was a plan to have Gregg Williams succeed Gibbs as HC. Then Gibbs left, Snyder invited Williams for at least a couple days at his place, and..... oops.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1099021]I don't think this franchise under Snyder has ever had a plan, as far as team management. Except maybe that one time St. Gibbs was here, and we looked like a professional organization for once under Snyder, and there was a plan to have Gregg Williams succeed Gibbs as HC. Then Gibbs left, Snyder invited Williams for at least a couple days at his place, and..... oops.[/quote]

I agree. We just look like a team who is patching working things together, only to see them implode or explode.

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[quote=punch it in;1099011]Lol.
Seriously who gives a shite. Happens all the time. Only difference is as Skins fans we look for underlying reasons why the fight happened so we can cast blame.[/quote]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduAMyLIXoM[/url] YEP happens all the time [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k69eDeab_HA[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Phk4tX6EKg[/url]

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[QUOTE=CASKINS;1099050][YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduAMyLIXoM][/YT] YEP happens all the time [YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k69eDeab_HA][/YT]



[YT][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Phk4tX6EKg[/url][/YT][/QUOTE]


....and there you have it.


I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.

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[quote=punch it in;1099051]....and there you have it.


I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.[/quote]

Yeah....I really gotta learn how to post links....

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See number 6 in the last link I posted. :/ it isn't the first time it happened to the skins either

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[QUOTE=CASKINS;1099053]See number 6 in the last link I posted. :/ it isn't the first time it happened to the skins either[/QUOTE]


I couldnt watch it all because im at work - get bad reception. Im going to guess it was Westbrook and Stephen Davis?


I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.

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Seems to me that the only one going out of their way to be vocal is Jay Gruden.

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[QUOTE=tc2deuce;1099067]Seems to me that the only one going out of their way to be vocal is Jay Gruden.[/QUOTE]


He should be he is the HC, ofcourse it doesnt mean he always says the right thing.


I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.

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[quote=punch it in;1099054]I couldnt watch it all because im at work - get bad reception. Im going to guess it was Westbrook and Stephen Davis?


I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.[/quote]

yeah westbrook made that look like a lobsided MMA fight too..go figure the irony there he became an MMA fighter

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[QUOTE=CASKINS;1099112]yeah westbrook made that look like a lobsided MMA fight too..go figure the irony there he became an MMA fighter[/QUOTE]


I did not know that, yeah I remember feeling bad for Davis when that happened.


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[quote=CASKINS;1099112]yeah westbrook made that look like a lobsided MMA fight too..go figure the irony there he became an MMA fighter[/quote]

what was ever the story on that fight? What did Stephen Davis do to piss of Westbrook that much. I wouldn't go so far as calling Westbrook an MMA fighter- yes he had training, yes he could beat the average guy, but he never fought a world level....His highlight will probably be appearing on "Bully Beatdown" which was a scripted MMA themed show...

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1099115]what was ever the story on that fight? What did Stephen Davis do to piss of Westbrook that much. I wouldn't go so far as calling Westbrook an MMA fighter- yes he had training, yes he could beat the average guy, but he never fought a world level....His highlight will probably be appearing on "Bully Beatdown" which was a scripted MMA themed show...[/quote]

Not sure how true it is, but yesterday I read something about this in the team's subreddit. A redditor mentioned that Westbrook actually responded to him on some type of forum when the fight became a topic. He says that Westbrook was actually pretty chill in his response and said something about how Davis kept ribbing him about his collegiate teammate Kordell Stewart's sexuality. Take this with a grain of salt, of course... but this could be why Westbrook never revealed to the media why he beat Davis down so bad, even after self-reflection.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/11/jon-gruden-my-brothers-in-the-middle-of-a-mess-in-washington/]Jon Gruden: My brother’s in the middle of a mess in Washington | ProFootballTalk[/url]


You don't say Jon?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1099117][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/11/jon-gruden-my-brothers-in-the-middle-of-a-mess-in-washington/]Jon Gruden: My brother’s in the middle of a mess in Washington | ProFootballTalk[/url]


You don't say Jon?[/quote]

Philly has a franchise QB?