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Chris Russell is trying to fend off the whole fan base.

Frankly, I was hoping he would have to get a job somewhere else. His mets trolling and constant bitching about his job is annoying to the max.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1118844]Shit...that's all of football media...PFT already have like 3 articles about this garbage. So guess what we should expect to hear all over sports media tomorrow...[/QUOTE]


Yea this came out evening time so you know the media orgs are salivating prepping for tomorrow AM news cycle.

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Headline next week: Colt McCoy punches Kirk Cousins and breaks his jaw. #Redskins

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So many things I want to say here, but...back to my cave

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[quote=SmootSmack;1118850]So many things I want to say here, but...back to my cave[/quote]

Why must you torment me??

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Media Vendetta against Daniel Snyder and The Redskins, wouldn't be surprised if smoking Ray is paying ESPN and others to dig dirt, any dirt. Tired of this shit.

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Espn is a shit show. Karma would be for fox sports and nbc sports network to surpass them...tough to do but there are so many clowns employed by espn

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1118851]Why must you torment me??[/quote]

Maybe it's my age catching up to me, but getting increasingly annoyed by the ignorance in so many posts I see on here.

I'll be on the other site. See you there Matty

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Not sure why people are shooting the messenger here. There's no story without her ridiculous tweet.

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[quote=Mattyk;1118870]Not sure why people are shooting the messenger here. There's no story without her ridiculous tweet.[/quote]

true...Really how dumb can you be with that tweet? McC gets an opportunity and its his wife now causing the problems.

Social media...I just dont f*cking get it. She isnt a kid either.

Look at RG3, he is obsessed with social media and ironically has/had major issues within the his own locker room. Isnt that hilarious? Social media has killed this generation ability to develop basic interpersonal communication skills.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1118857]Maybe it's my age catching up to me, but getting increasingly annoyed by the ignorance in so many posts I see on here.

I'll be on the other site. See you there Matty[/quote]

Definitely understandable. Can't say I blame you.

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[quote=Mattyk;1118870]Not sure why people are shooting the messenger here. There's no story without her ridiculous tweet.[/quote]

I agree. I have no idea why people blame the media (regardless who it is) for stuff like this. This is their job to report stuff like this. Their work is a direct reflection of the organization they are covering.

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[quote=Chico23231;1118874]true...Really how dumb can you be with that tweet? McC gets an opportunity and its his wife now causing the problems.

Social media...I just dont f*cking get it. She isnt a kid either.

Look at RG3, he is obsessed with social media and ironically has/had major issues within the his own locker room. Isnt that hilarious? Social media has killed this generation ability to develop basic interpersonal communication skills.[/quote]

Give her a break. This is the kind of thing an emotionally distraught woman who believes her husband is having an extra-marital affair does.

Before social media, this would probably have been kept behind closed doors. In the world of today, it can't be controlled by the team.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1118879]Give her a break. This is the kind of thing an emotionally distraught woman who believes her husband is having an extra-marital affair does.

Before social media, this would probably have been kept behind closed doors. In the world of today, it can't be controlled by the team.[/quote]

Hey there is absolutely zero excuse. None for her to go there on social media and say that. Marital problems shouldnt be anybody's business. She gets no breaks.




Side note, you know Hard Knocks is livid about not getting the Skins this preseason.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1118879]Give her a break. This is the kind of thing an emotionally distraught woman who believes her husband is having an extra-marital affair does.

Before social media, this would probably have been kept behind closed doors. In the world of today, it can't be controlled by the team.[/quote]
I think the problem in regards to the team was how they handled it.

Who knows really....but this has to be one of the worst starts to a season I have ever seen and honestly Scott M has to shoulder some of that blame. I know we are in the honeymoon stage with him but so far I am not doing back flips for this guy. Of course we are asking him to save the Titanic and the boat was already under water when he got here.

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[quote=Chico23231;1118880]Hey there is absolutely zero excuse. None for her to go there on social media and say that. Marital problems shouldnt be anybody's business. She gets no breaks.




[B]Side note, you know Hard Knocks is livid about not getting the Skins this preseason.[/B][/quote]

Since the team has the final say on what is aired and with all the drama we have had this summer it probably just be episodes of Snyder's dog.

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Some good news about the team:

Alex MarvezVerified account
‏@alexmarvez
NFL spokesman tells @NFLonFOX @Redskins WR Jamison Crowder won't face league discipline 4 June domestic violence accusation on social media

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Think about it ..This is not on the same level of the whole Bill Clinton sex scandal deal years ago! That was the president ..this is about a Dang Football team..if anything it is entertaining as any hollywood script!! and the NFL is nothing but entertainment..I did not blink when i saw this ..it really is all part of the big show. Folks say the Redskins are dysfunctional..I say the whole League is that..you got players on other teams connected to major crimes,murders..drug use throughout the league,teams moving from city to city just for money..Cheating by the Patriots for years…and yet the Redskins are dysfunctional..yea right!

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[quote=rocnrik;1118886]Think about it ..This is not on the same level of the whole Bill Clinton sex scandal deal years ago! That was the president ..this is about a Dang Football team..if anything it is entertaining as any hollywood script!! and the NFL is nothing but entertainment..I did not blink when i saw this ..it really is all part of the big show. Folks say the Redskins are dysfunctional..I say the whole League is that..you got players on other teams connected to major crimes,murders..drug use throughout the league,teams moving from city to city just for money..Cheating by the Patriots for years…and yet the Redskins are dysfunctional..yea right![/quote]

Winning cures everything. As a perennial loser, the Redskins PR staff should know to dot their i's and cross their t's, because they'll be under bigger media scrutiny.

And the team is an easy target for the local media, who at the end of the day are doing their jobs. I just can't believe the team's PR can be so terrible.

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[quote=mredskins;1118882]I think the problem in regards to the team was how they handled it.

Who knows really....but this has to be one of the worst starts to a season I have ever seen and honestly Scott M has to shoulder some of that blame. I know we are in the honeymoon stage with him but so far I am not doing back flips for this guy. Of course we are asking him to save the Titanic and the boat was already under water when he got here.[/quote]

Hold up a minute!

Let's look at what he's done to improve the product on the field. I know that's not what we Redskins fans usually do, but perhaps we can digress from the long-running soap opera, [I]Redskins Park[/I], long enough to focus a bit on the game of football.

I think Scot has us on the right path. He brought in a solid core of young veterans on defense and it looks like he was successful in the draft, as well. I'm well satisfied with the job he's done so far.

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so that tweet was real?

Wow. Funny, sad, depressing and tiring all in one. Winning!!

By week 2 or 3, we will be talking real football and what happens on the field, not off it.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1118885]Some good news about the team:

Alex MarvezVerified account
‏@alexmarvez
NFL spokesman tells @NFLonFOX @Redskins WR Jamison Crowder won't face league discipline 4 June domestic violence accusation on social media[/QUOTE]

Awesome news. Im still waiting to see this explosiveness they say Crowder has. He and Jones I am looking forward to seeing this season.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1118888]Hold up a minute!

Let's look at what he's done to improve the product on the field. I know that's not what we Redskins fans usually do, but perhaps we can digress from the long-running soap opera, [I]Redskins Park[/I], long enough to focus a bit on the game of football.

I think Scot has us on the right path. He brought in a solid core of young veterans on defense and it looks like he was successful in the draft, as well. I'm well satisfied with the job he's done so far.[/quote]

No one he has brought in has played for us in one regular season game yet. You are ready to announce his draft class a success after 3 pre-season games? I am not saying they are bad either. My only problem with Scott this off season is he has not done a good job with managing the drama and media. Not all of it is on him but he is the head guy; buck has to stop somewhere.

Again we are asking him to re-surface the Titanic here; there simply maybe no one that can help this franchise.

Plus I don't care who is sucking his dick, I would think the only people that would care about who is sucking his dick are the people that are sucking his dick.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1118888]Hold up a minute!

Let's look at what he's done to improve the product on the field. I know that's not what we Redskins fans usually do, but perhaps we can digress from the long-running soap opera, [I]Redskins Park[/I], long enough to focus a bit on the game of football.

I think Scot has us on the right path. He brought in a solid core of young veterans on defense and it looks like he was successful in the draft, as well. I'm well satisfied with the job he's done so far.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Didn't get the SM bash. Everything football related from the draft to FA acquisitions even to the Griffin saga has, imo, gone to improving the team on the field. The team was in a pretty big talent hole and it seems to have made a good job of filling what it could based on availibility of options. That all goes on the positive side of SMs ledger. If he was getting side action for inside information then that goes on the negative of the PR and moralistic side, but lets face it we knew they weren't hiring a saint. His wife lashing out goes alot more to the state of US public discourse then SM's raising of the ttitanic.

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[quote=mredskins;1118891] My only problem with Scott this off season is he has not done a good job with managing the drama and media. Not all of it is on him but he is the head guy; buck has to stop somewhere.

[/quote]

I would have liked the Skins to come out and issue a press release saying Cousins is the starter for football reasons, he gives us the best chance to win at this time.

Just a clear, no-drama football decision.

But then the concussion thing happened, which i think was out of the skins control, and it just made everything seem so confusing and conspiracy theories abounding.

By week 1 or 2, we will be back to football .... i hope.

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Kirk Cousins teases me.

For me if I'm picking a QB to run Jay's offense I would choose Colt McCoy.
But there are throws that Kirk can make the McCoy just can't and some that he won't attempt.
Kirk has good NFL arm talent but Kirk might believe in arm a little too much.
He doesn't have the migh turnover % by accident.

But when Kirk is humming and the playcalling is on point? I dare say Kirk can look like Drew Brees (one of my favorite QBs in the league). I can tell by the playcalling that Jay/McVay have a lot faith in Kirk's ability but sometime they too are culpable in his failures by not protecting him with the run and putting too much on his shoulders via the passing game.

Even though between the Kirk and Colt I would choose Colt. I can see why Kirk has been given the shot and hope he can win some games.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1118879]Give her a break. This is the kind of thing an emotionally distraught woman who believes her husband is having an extra-marital affair does.

Before social media, this would probably have been kept behind closed doors. In the world of today, it can't be controlled by the team.[/quote]

I agree but it scares me that his personal life might be a little less stable than I thought. I'm willing to wait and see but his weakness has always been the drama in his personal life. As a football mind, he's one of the best in the game today. I just hope this isn't just the first sign that he can't manage his life outside of football. If he's doing his job, I don't care but this stuff tends to affect you as an employee as well..

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[quote=30gut;1118897]
Kirk has good NFL arm talent but Kirk might believe in arm a little too much.
He doesn't have the migh turnover % by accident.

But when Kirk is humming and the playcalling is on point? I dare say Kirk can look like Drew Brees (one of my favorite QBs in the league). I can tell by the playcalling that Jay/McVay have a lot faith in Kirk's ability but sometime they too are culpable in his failures by not protecting him with the run and putting too much on his shoulders via the passing game.

[/quote]

30, im glad to see you do see the positives with Kirk. I thought a few weeks ago you overly optimistic on RG3 and overly pessimistic on Kirk.

i 100% agree with your post. A radio talking head the other day said "its great when Kirk threads the needle on throws but sometimes he threads the needle too much". when kirk tries these "thread the needle" high risk high reward throws, sometimes a guy will be a second late or slip out of the break like grant did last week.

when kirk throws the ball before the receiver makes his break, the receiver can slip or be late to the spot, ball bounces up in the air = int.

like the TD throw crowder scored on, the ball was there in grants hands but he doesnt secure it (kinda tough catch but one that should be made) and the ball is tipped in the air, up for grabs. Fortunately crowder was there but usually that deep there are more defenders than receivers.

i really agree that they need to give kirk a run game and a lead. if all of his throws have to be perfect with anticipation, reading, timing and accuracy = ints will happen.

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Pretty sure SM's job does not entail media/drama control. He's here to manage the football ops. Allen and Wylie are the soap opera specialists.

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Since this is the Cousins thread, back to Cousins.

I just wanted to get into the numbers a little bit in an effort to find as much hope as I could. It's well documented that last year when Cousins had a poor game, things REALLY went south on him, which Jay attributed to mental toughness. Well the one game that really went bad was the Giants game in Week 4 where he had the 4 INTs and lost another fumble.

So well then, how does he do when things don't go south? Is he competitive?

In the other 5 games in which he played, he averaged 21 for 34 for 291 yards, 1.8 TDs per game, 1.0 INTs per game, and 1.2 sacks per game. Extrapolate that over the course of a 16-game season and you get a projected starting QB line of:

342 for 547, a 62.5% completion rate
4,649 yards, 29 TDs, 16 INTs, and 19 sacks taken

Now of course this is extrapolating a 5-game sample size, and there's selection bias here because I'm removing the Giants game. But still I would take that performance happily, even though the 16 picks will still be among league leaders and mean we're only a mediocre team. Even with the picks, it would be positive progress at the QB spot.

So it seems Jay is onto something, getting Kirk past the mental hurdle of collapsing under adversity. If he's able to coach up that mental aspect of it, the Shanahans and Gruden both might be right in thinking he can be very good.

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[quote=Mattyk;1118907]Pretty sure SM's job does not entail media/drama control. He's here to manage the football ops. Allen and Wylie are the soap opera specialists.[/quote]

The problem here is that this organization does not speak with "one voice". Too many people have too much to say too often and, often, too soon. They need to get their act together before responding to any issue and after one designated spokesperson states the organization's position, everybody else should decline further comment on that issue.

It seems to me that the PR department stokes more brush fires than it puts out.

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[quote=Schneed10;1118918]Since this is the Cousins thread, back to Cousins.

I just wanted to get into the numbers a little bit in an effort to find as much hope as I could. It's well documented that last year when Cousins had a poor game, things REALLY went south on him, which Jay attributed to mental toughness. Well the one game that really went bad was the Giants game in Week 4 where he had the 4 INTs and lost another fumble.

So well then, how does he do when things don't go south? Is he competitive?

In the other 5 games in which he played, he averaged 21 for 34 for 291 yards, 1.8 TDs per game, 1.0 INTs per game, and 1.2 sacks per game. Extrapolate that over the course of a 16-game season and you get a projected starting QB line of:

342 for 547, a 62.5% completion rate
4,649 yards, 29 TDs, 16 INTs, and 19 sacks taken

Now of course this is extrapolating a 5-game sample size, and there's selection bias here because I'm removing the Giants game. But still I would take that performance happily, even though the 16 picks will still be among league leaders and mean we're only a mediocre team. Even with the picks, it would be positive progress at the QB spot.

So it seems Jay is onto something, getting Kirk past the mental hurdle of collapsing under adversity. If he's able to coach up that mental aspect of it, the Shanahans and Gruden both might be right in thinking he can be very good.[/quote]

For fairness reasons, if you are going to extrapolate, you need to take out the best statistical game as well as the worst (the Eagles game), which leaves you with a season of:

4104 yards, 62.675% completion, 24 touchdowns, 20 interceptions.

This looks more like Kirk Cousins to me.

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[url=http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-9-interceptions-2014/]Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014[/url]

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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[IMG]http://maxcdn.nflbreakdowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kirk-Cousins-9-Interceptions-757x364.png[/IMG]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1118821]...and they reversed course.




I'm in tears right now laughing so hard.[/quote]

I'm not. It's embarrassing. Anytime the 'Skins are mentioned in the media since 2012, it's never about good news. I'd rather they just stayed out of the spotlight. And now we have this Russini story about to blow up? FFS, we can't do anything right around here.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1118926]For fairness reasons, if you are going to extrapolate, you need to take out the best statistical game as well as the worst (the Eagles game), which leaves you with a season of:

4104 yards, 62.675% completion, 24 touchdowns, 20 interceptions.

This looks more like Kirk Cousins to me.[/quote]

I'd take those numbers from a guy about to start only his tenth game, especially if we see improvement as the season goes on. They look similar to Andrew Luck's rookie season, and I hear he's pretty good.

4,374 yards 54.1% 23TDs 18TDs

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[quote=over the mountain;1118929][url=http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-9-interceptions-2014/]Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014[/url]

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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[IMG]http://maxcdn.nflbreakdowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kirk-Cousins-9-Interceptions-757x364.png[/IMG][/quote]


We should probably expect some growing pains, but I'm not ready to conclude that Kirk Cousins has hit his ceiling after only starting 9 games. Yes, he threw a lot of picks last year, but still threw more TDs and if he improves over time, he'll be just like a vast majority of guys who have played the position - struggles early, but better with experience. I'll play the odds and say we see a much improved version of KC as the season goes on. If not, it's back to the drawing board after the season.

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[quote=over the mountain;1118929][url=http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-9-interceptions-2014/]Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014[/url]

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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[IMG]http://maxcdn.nflbreakdowns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Kirk-Cousins-9-Interceptions-757x364.png[/IMG][/quote]

Great site. Good breakdown is his 10TDs as well:

[url=http://nflbreakdowns.com/kirk-cousins-10-touchdowns-2014/]Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 10 Touchdowns in 2014[/url]

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[quote=44Deezel;1118932]I'd take those numbers from a guy about to start only his tenth game, especially if we see improvement as the season goes on. They look similar to Andrew Luck's rookie season, and I hear he's pretty good.

4,374 yards 54.1% 23TDs 18TDs[/quote]

Right

Another thing that makes this different for Cousins is he is starting the season as "the guy". I think from a mental stand point this is big for him.

Id really like to know in the locker room how this annoucement went over with the rest of the offense...will they rally around Cousins? Are they upset RG3 is not the starter? Id really like to know what the WR think.

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There's not enough bandwidth to show all of Brett Farve's interceptions and he turned out fine.

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[quote=over the mountain;1118904]30, im glad to see you do see the positives with Kirk. I thought a few weeks ago you overly optimistic on RG3 and overly pessimistic on Kirk.[/quote]I'm not sure why you think I wouldn't see positives or be overly pessimistic about Kirk?

Most people either don't know or ignore the fact that I said Griffin should have been cut at the end of the season [I][U][B]prior[/B][/U][/I] to training camp. Many people in this forum (and this may or may not apply to you) but many assume that defense of inaccurate/incorrect statements about Griffin to equate to a dislike of Kirk. I just call it like I see. Just because I thought Griffin should have been cut doesn't mean I'm gonna agree with bandwagon echo chamber bashing.

At the end of the day I don't care who the QB is nor the style of football....provided we win.

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[quote=Chico23231;1118936] Id really like to know what the WR think.[/quote]

"You cant do epic shit with basic people" - Desean Jackson

The day after we lost 27-7 vs the then 1-8 bucs. Helu was our best receiver with 57 yards. RG3 quarterbacking.