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Wow! Cancer sucks! So many famous people have died in this brand new year from the ugly C! I hope Mort is able to fight through it!

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/01/14/what-pro-football-focus-says-about-redskins/]What Pro Football Focus Says About Redskins « CBS DC[/url]

Interesting outlook on the team...

Best DEF player:

Washington Redskins: Bashaud Breeland, CB, 82.1

Signature stat: 11 pass defenses (tied for ninth among CBs)

After a difficult rookie season, Bashaud Breeland blossomed in his second year, though a difficult end to the season took some of the gloss off of his performance. Breeland let up 31 percent of his yardage total for the season (238-of-752 yards) over the final three weeks, but prior to that, was our eighth-highest graded cornerback in coverage.

QB:
13. Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins, 78.3

A strong finish to the season moved Cousins up the ranks, as he cut down on early-season questionable decisions and allowed his playmakers to make plays. His accuracy percentage of 79.3 led the league.




DL:

9. Washington Redskins (7)

Starters: OLB Trent Murphy, DE Chris I. Baker, NT Terrence Knighton, DE Jason Hatcher, OLB Ryan Kerrigan

Rotation: DE Ricky Jean-Francois, DE Stephen Paea, DE Kedric Golston, OLB Preston Smith

Washington’s front is not the stoutest against the run, but they have a number of consistent pass rushers. Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Murphy were not outstanding by any means, but they combined for a +16.7 cumulative pass rush grade. Interior defensive lineman Chris Baker (82.7) and Jason Hatcher (74.6) also pushed the pocket on a consistent basis. The former also played the run well in 2015 (81.7 run defense grade), unlike his teammate, Hatcher (48.4 run defense grade), who’s been a specialist pass rusher for awhile. Jean-Francois and Knighton combined for a +13.8 cumulative run defense grade, giving Washington a pair of stout run defenders. Stephen Paea (75.8) also proved to be a useful free agent addition, despite getting on the field for just 221 snaps. Preston Smith gives Washington some depth on the edge, even if he ultimately ended up with a poor overall grade this season (68.8). He’s flashed serious potential as a pass rusher, finishing the year with eight sacks and 35 combined pressures.

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[quote=30gut;1137921][url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/01/14/what-pro-football-focus-says-about-redskins/]What Pro Football Focus Says About Redskins « CBS DC[/url]

Interesting outlook on the team...

Best DEF player:

Washington Redskins: Bashaud Breeland, CB, 82.1

Signature stat: 11 pass defenses (tied for ninth among CBs)

After a difficult rookie season, Bashaud Breeland blossomed in his second year, though a difficult end to the season took some of the gloss off of his performance. Breeland let up 31 percent of his yardage total for the season (238-of-752 yards) over the final three weeks, but prior to that, was our eighth-highest graded cornerback in coverage.

QB:
13. Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins, 78.3

A strong finish to the season moved Cousins up the ranks, as he cut down on early-season questionable decisions and allowed his playmakers to make plays. His accuracy percentage of 79.3 led the league.




DL:

9. Washington Redskins (7)

Starters: OLB Trent Murphy, DE Chris I. Baker, NT Terrence Knighton, DE Jason Hatcher, OLB Ryan Kerrigan

Rotation: DE Ricky Jean-Francois, DE Stephen Paea, DE Kedric Golston, OLB Preston Smith

Washington’s front is not the stoutest against the run, but they have a number of consistent pass rushers. Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Murphy were not outstanding by any means, but they combined for a +16.7 cumulative pass rush grade. Interior defensive lineman Chris Baker (82.7) and Jason Hatcher (74.6) also pushed the pocket on a consistent basis. The former also played the run well in 2015 (81.7 run defense grade), unlike his teammate, Hatcher (48.4 run defense grade), who’s been a specialist pass rusher for awhile. Jean-Francois and Knighton combined for a +13.8 cumulative run defense grade, giving Washington a pair of stout run defenders. Stephen Paea (75.8) also proved to be a useful free agent addition, despite getting on the field for just 221 snaps. Preston Smith gives Washington some depth on the edge, even if he ultimately ended up with a poor overall grade this season (68.8). He’s flashed serious potential as a pass rusher, finishing the year with eight sacks and 35 combined pressures.[/quote]

30, do you think Sam Bradford was a better QB this year than Kirk Cousins as the article says?

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1137923]30, do you think Sam Bradford was a better QB this year than Kirk Cousins as the article says?[/QUOTE]


Pff takes everything except "reality" into the equation.

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wait, breeland had a tough rookie season?

glad someone finally told me, i guess i must have missed it.

and smith had a poor season with 8 sacks and 35 pressures as a part time player?


such insights, much wow.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1137923]30, do you think Sam Bradford was a better QB this year than Kirk Cousins as the article says?[/quote]Nope.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000572265/article/2016-nfl-draft-order-and-needs-playoff-teams21]2016 NFL Draft order and needs: Playoff teams - NFL.com[/url]. Washington Redskins

2015 record: 9-7 (.465)

Top need: Center

Other needs: Wide receiver, cornerback, defensive line, offensive tackle

Senior prospects at positional needs:
Center: Nick Martin (Notre Dame), Mike Matthews (Texas A&M);

WR: D.J. Foster (Arizona State), Sterling Shepard (Oklahoma), Josh Doctson (TCU); CB: Maurice Canady (Virginia), Danzel McDaniel (Kansas State), Will Redmond (Mississippi State);

DL: DeForest Buckner (Oregon), Shilique Calhoun (Michigan State), Sheldon Day (Notre Dame), Jarran Reed (Alabama), Adolphus Washington (Ohio State);

OT: Vadal Alexander (LSU), Taylor Decker (Ohio State), Spencer Drango (Baylor).

Analysis: Kirk Cousins has turned this "top need spot" into a new position. While we might not be totally sold on Cousins as the long-term solution, it is reasonable to think the Redskins can target an area like offensive or defensive line where the team needs more competition, depth and talent. Center could be addressed within the first four rounds, while cornerback and wide receiver are wild-card needs.

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I'm glad to see that Scherff is getting this type of recognition.

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/redskins-scherff-ex-terp-diggs-get-nfl-rookie-honors]Redskins' Scherff, ex-Terp Diggs get NFL rookie honors | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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Potential Redskins FA Targets per Rich Tandler:

Dolphins RB Lamar Miller—He won’t be 25 until OTAs start and he can be the dynamic back the Redskins are looking for. Miller has runs of 97 and 85 yards the last two years. Another plus is that he has had a fairly light workload in his career; in four seasons he has averaged 160 carries a year and never more than 216 in any one season.

Seahawks WR Jermaine Kearse—At 6-1 he’s not a huge receiver but he would add some needed size to the Redskins’ receiving corps. He can get it done in the red zone; he has five red zone touchdown receptions in the last three years, more than any Redskin not named Reed or Garçon. McCloughan is familiar with him as he was with the Seahawks when they signed Kearse as an undrafted free agent in 2012

Jaguars C Stefen Wisniewski—The former Raider signed a one-year “prove it” deal with the Jaguars. He didn’t miss a snap and was one of the Jags’ best offensive linemen. At the age of 27 he’s in line for a more substantial deal and the Redskins should take a hard look to see if they should offer him one.

Chargers S Eric Weddle—Yeah, I know, another aging safety. And this one is a long shot but I think the Redskins will keep their eye on him. Incumbent safety Dashon Goldson is slated to make $8 million in 2016 and I don’t think that the Redskins will pay him that. If he won’t renegotiate, the Redskins will need an alternative if they decide to move on from Goldson and that could be Weddle. At age 31 he would be a short-term solution but he would be a quality (two-time All-Pro, including 2014) stopgap.

Broncos ILB Danny Trevathan—If Mason Foster leaves, or even if he stays, Trevathan could be a good fit. He has the background in a winning organization that McCloughan likes and he’ll be 26 in a couple of months.

[I]My own practically worthless take on these players:

Miller - I'm a fan. I'd take a close look at him.
Kearse - I don't see any need for him.
Wisniewski - He's a definite maybe. Should be affordable.
Weddle - No. Just no.
Trevathan - Good young ILB. Fast. Could be a good pickup.[/I]

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how much money is miller worth?

at WR, you're looking at the guy that's replacing ryan grant, so he'd have to be pretty cheap and okay with limited snaps. the draft (after round 1) might be a better place if you want some upside in possibly/eventually replacing garcon. I don't think i'd sign anyone till after the draft; i just don't think locking up a career #4 WR is a big priority.

C is a need, and we'll definitely draft some kind of OG/C this year, but signing a starter in FA could be worthwhile.

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Miller is worth a phone call just to see the price IMO, but think he's gonna get paid.

Danny trevathan would be a steal, I've mentioned him before. I think he would excel at foster spot.

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Yea, I'd entertain thoughts about Miller and Trevathan.
That means we means we'd have more picks to get some damn nice depth.

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I don't know about spending money on a RB, depends on what he wants:

Matt Jones
Lamar Miller
Chris Thompson

does look like a dangerous rb core but................

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An Irrefutable list of 2016 Free Agents, including rankings

[url=http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2016all.php]WalterFootball.com: 2016 NFL Free Agents - Top 90[/url]

I want a C, RB, G, CB and S

Draft..... DL, LB, S, TE, RB, WR

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How is 9-7 a .465 win %?

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[quote=punch it in;1138042]How is 9-7 a .465 win %?[/quote]

Hehehehehe....opponents win'%

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I don't think we need wr that early

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1138044]I don't think we need wr that early[/quote]

Scot doesn't draft off of need, at the time the Giants drafted Odell Beckham they didn't need a WR that early either. Remember what happened last year, if Oakland hadn't taken Amari Cooper, he'd be a Redskin right now. Now if for some reason Laquon Treadwell is starring us in the face at 21, I could easily see Scot pulling the trigger.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1138043]Hehehehehe....opponents win'%[/QUOTE]


2015 record : 9-7 (.465)
That denotes our opponents win % or r u just messing with me? Lol

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1138045]Scot doesn't draft off of need, at the time the Giants drafted Odell Beckham they didn't need a WR that early either. Remember what happened last year, if Oakland hadn't taken Amari Cooper, he'd be a Redskin right now. Now if for some reason Laquon Treadwell is starring us in the face at 21, I could easily see Scot pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]


You dont think Scherff over Williams had a dash of need to it? Williams was widely regarded as the bpa. Id say , at the time at least, oline was a bigger need than dline. I think that u always have to consider bpa and need than weigh your optins. Is bpa that much better than bpa at a position of need? Dont think its so black n white as just bpa all day long?

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[quote=punch it in;1138047]You dont think Scherff over Williams had a dash of need to it? Williams was widely regarded as the bpa. Id say , at the time at least, oline was a bigger need than dline. I think that u always have to consider bpa and need than weigh your optins. Is bpa that much better than bpa at a position of need? Dont think its so black n white as just bpa all day long?[/quote]

I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1138051]I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper[/QUOTE]


Fair enough. I still think you gotta go bpa / need but I aint worried. SM is a draft king. HTTR

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[quote=Irrefutable;1138041]An Irrefutable list of 2016 Free Agents, including rankings

[url=http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2016all.php]WalterFootball.com: 2016 NFL Free Agents - Top 90[/url]

I want a C, RB, G, CB and S

Draft..... DL, LB, S, TE, RB, WR[/quote]

why a guard? we have two a big money LG, a top 5 pick at RG and depth there already.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1138051]I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper[/QUOTE]


People tend to forget everyone has their own draft board they're working from.

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[quote=punch it in;1138046]2015 record : 9-7 (.465)
That denotes our opponents win % or r u just messing with me? Lol[/quote]

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25452974/complete-2016-nfl-draft-order-picks-1-28-are-now-official]Complete 2016 NFL Draft Order: Picks 1-28 are now locked in - CBSSports.com[/url]

21 Redskins 9 7 0.465

schedule strength

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[QUOTE=MTK;1138055]People tend to forget everyone has their own draft board they're working from.[/QUOTE]


I just remember being surprised as though the pick was out of left field. I was happy about it because I thought it was the best pick for us. You are rite though I think back to Kipers big board as if SM gives a crap who Mel thinks the rite guy is. Lol.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1138056][url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25452974/complete-2016-nfl-draft-order-picks-1-28-are-now-official]Complete 2016 NFL Draft Order: Picks 1-28 are now locked in - CBSSports.com[/url]



21 Redskins 9 7 0.465



schedule strength[/QUOTE]


Gotcha.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1138041]An Irrefutable list of 2016 Free Agents, including rankings ...

I want a C, RB, G, CB and S

Draft..... DL, LB, S, TE, RB, WR[/quote]

[quote=That Guy;1138054]why a guard? we have two a big money LG, a top 5 pick at RG and depth there already.[/quote]

There are some good guards coming open - a lot in fact. The Ravens G who stepped in and performed admirably as LT jumps out at me. I am unconvinced that Luvaou is the answer at LG and Long may be depth but he was pushed around by D linemen a lot. As for A. Kouandjio, he may have a great attitude but he is serious project ([url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10407/arie-kouandjio]Arie Kouandjio - Washington Redskins - 2016 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url] : AK "is tight hipped and athletically deficient. Arie was a maddeningly inconsistent blocker on college tape, almost to the point of being undisciplined.").

The run game sucked. Even if Lauvuo is the answer (he left due to injury, run game goes south), I don't trust either Long or AK to step up. If we can get a quality guard at a good price, I wouldn't object. I can see it as not a priority but I wouldn't rule it out.

Nobody on the list other than Wisnewski stands out to me at center. To me, that's the real priority on the line. The pivot position needs to be upgraded either through free agency or the draft.

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Wanna see an amazing scouting report? Check this out:

Ezekiel Elliott Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
First-step quickness
Serious burst to the hole
Excellent balance
Tremendous vision
Quick feet
Smooth runner
Ideal build
Runs behind his pads
Can break off long runs
Quick to the second level
Can be a one-cut downhill runner
Has elusiveness
Has the strength to run through tackles
Very hard to arm tackle
Rarely ever goes down on first contact
Capable of creating for himself
Gets yards after contact
Finishes runs well
Has a nose for the end zone
Wears down defenses
Good ball security
Runs low to the ground
Developed blocking and pass protection
Good receiver
Soft hands
Capable of controlling games
Runs well in the second half
Quality short-yardage back
Can change the complexion of an offense as a play-making runner
Experienced and successful against good college programs
Makes big plays in the clutch
Durable
Ready to play immediately

Weaknesses:
Good speed, but not elite

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1138092]Wanna see an amazing scouting report? Check this out:



Ezekiel Elliott Scouting Report

By Charlie Campbell



Strengths:

First-step quickness

Serious burst to the hole

Excellent balance

Tremendous vision

Quick feet

Smooth runner

Ideal build

Runs behind his pads

Can break off long runs

Quick to the second level

Can be a one-cut downhill runner

Has elusiveness

Has the strength to run through tackles

Very hard to arm tackle

Rarely ever goes down on first contact

Capable of creating for himself

Gets yards after contact

Finishes runs well

Has a nose for the end zone

Wears down defenses

Good ball security

Runs low to the ground

Developed blocking and pass protection

Good receiver

Soft hands

Capable of controlling games

Runs well in the second half

Quality short-yardage back

Can change the complexion of an offense as a play-making runner

Experienced and successful against good college programs

Makes big plays in the clutch

Durable

Ready to play immediately



Weaknesses:

Good speed, but not elite[/QUOTE]


Saw one mock that had us taking him at 21

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Strengths:
Ideal build and size
Quickness to the hole
Vision
Tough, physical runner
Runs behind pads
Proper pad level
Has good straight-line speed
Can break off long runs
Shiftiness
Capable of handling a large amount of touches
Excellent hands
Phenomenal receiving ability
Willing blocker in blitz pickup; has potential to be very good
Didn't take a massive pounding in college
Hard-nosed runner between the tackles
Improved study habits as a junior
Looks durable; backup for two seasons before becoming a starter



Weaknesses:
Will need to continue to improve blitz pickup
Intelligence?

That is Trent Richardson and he turned out so awesome.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1138097]Strengths:

Ideal build and size

Quickness to the hole

Vision

Tough, physical runner

Runs behind pads

Proper pad level

Has good straight-line speed

Can break off long runs

Shiftiness

Capable of handling a large amount of touches

Excellent hands

Phenomenal receiving ability

Willing blocker in blitz pickup; has potential to be very good

Didn't take a massive pounding in college

Hard-nosed runner between the tackles

Improved study habits as a junior

Looks durable; backup for two seasons before becoming a starter







Weaknesses:

Will need to continue to improve blitz pickup

Intelligence?



That is Trent Richardson and he turned out so awesome.[/QUOTE]


In all fairness - intelligence under weaknesses should be at least a minor red flag....
Ezekiel will not be another Trent Richardson.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1138060]There are some good guards coming open - a lot in fact. The Ravens G who stepped in and performed admirably as LT jumps out at me. I am unconvinced that Luvaou is the answer at LG and Long may be depth but he was pushed around by D linemen a lot. As for A. Kouandjio, he may have a great attitude but he is serious project ([url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10407/arie-kouandjio]Arie Kouandjio - Washington Redskins - 2016 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url] : AK "is tight hipped and athletically deficient. Arie was a maddeningly inconsistent blocker on college tape, almost to the point of being undisciplined.").

The run game sucked. Even if Lauvuo is the answer (he left due to injury, run game goes south), I don't trust either Long or AK to step up. If we can get a quality guard at a good price, I wouldn't object. I can see it as not a priority but I wouldn't rule it out.

Nobody on the list other than Wisnewski stands out to me at center. To me, that's the real priority on the line. The pivot position needs to be upgraded either through free agency or the draft.[/quote]

Center Ben Jones might be a good option. Reportedly Lauvuo's recovery has been slow. He could be cut and be replaced by a FA.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1138107]Center Ben Jones might be a good option. Reportedly Lauvuo's recovery has been slow. He could be cut and be replaced by a FA.[/quote]

Kouandjio wins the LG position next year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1138111]Kouandjio wins the LG position next year.[/quote]

I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?

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[quote=Bangee7;1138119]I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?[/quote]

Does anybody know how Kouandjio is doing? I haven't ready any reports on him.

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[quote=Bangee7;1138119]I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?[/quote]

It's the exception when a 4th round draft pick can contribute in game situations in his rookie year.

I don't have any numbers, but from memory, he wasn't active for a lot of games.

From the outside looking in, I don't think we can say he is or isn't going to be good. Only folks inside the organization would know how he is adapting to the pro game at this stage.

Case in point, Morgan Moses. Tom Compton played in front of him last year and this year Moses came in and played extremely well.

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[quote=Bangee7;1138119]I'm not so sure about that...didn't he only play 1 snap this year?

If he's the heir apparent, they couldn't find a few more snaps for him?[/quote]

McC loves him because of his nasty style of play, I bet you he wins the job.

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If we let garçon go which I hope we don't but if we did, would anyone like Jermaine Kearse? Word is he won't be back in Seattle.

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Kiper gave us a good grade right after the draft, and he improved the grade after seeing our rookies play this year.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/23247/redskins-2015-rookie-class-receives-high-mark-from-mel-kiper]Redskins 2015 rookie class receives high mark from Mel Kiper - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

The best part about this, is I remember McCloughan standing at the podium reviewing the draft after the 3-day event concluded. He was asked how he thought he did, and went through espousing the positive traits of each guy, then took a sip of water he cracked a half-smile and said "it's a good group, you'll see."

He knew it all along. He knew going into that draft who was good, who wasn't. And he came away with plenty of his guys.

I just love his level of mastery over the whole thing. You come away KNOWING it's a good group of players, not wondering whether everything will pan out.