Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144536][B][B]Makes me nervous. Really nervous.[/B][/B] Seeing cousins in another uniform tearing it up in 2017 will be a bad, bad thing. There just must be something about him that they don't like for them to not want to lock him up.

Think to the future for a minute and i wonder what team would be most interested in him this off-season. Guess it depends on how a few teams do with their "new" QB's this year....[/quote]

Start preparing for a long nervous season.....

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144536]Makes me nervous. Really nervous. Seeing cousins in another uniform tearing it up in 2017 will be a bad, bad thing. There just must be something about him that they don't like for them to not want to lock him up.

Think to the future for a minute and i wonder what team would be most interested in him this off-season. Guess it depends on how a few teams do with their "new" QB's this year....[/quote]

If cousins can put up another season of solid numbers...nothing to worry about, zero chance he gets away. Zero chance.

I'm more worried about the running game than the passing game...

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Cousins isn't going anywhere. Just stop.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144536]Makes me nervous. Really nervous. Seeing cousins in another uniform tearing it up in 2017 will be a bad, bad thing. There just must be something about him that they don't like for them to not want to lock him up.

Think to the future for a minute and i wonder what team would be most interested in him this off-season. Guess it depends on how a few teams do with their "new" QB's this year....[/quote]

Lol if you're assuming the Redskins will cheap out on paying the most highly valued player on the team I would think again. They just want to make sure last year wasn't a fluke before they empty the coffers.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

This has dragged on long enough. My feeling is KC probably doesn't have the warmest feelings towards ownership and Allen. He had to sit though the RG3 sideshow for 3 years. He had a front row seat to all the coddling.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1144548]This has dragged on long enough. My feeling is KC probably doesn't have the warmest feelings towards ownership and Allen. He had to sit though the RG3 sideshow for 3 years. He had a front row seat to all the coddling.[/quote]

Nah, This is just business like Flacco and Baltimore (I hope for the same outcome). When we sign KC it will be at numbers similar to what Luck just got and we want to make sure he can win against better opponents, and he sees what Luck and Osweiler got and wants what he considers fair market value.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1144548]This has dragged on long enough. My feeling is KC probably doesn't have the warmest feelings towards ownership and Allen. He had to sit though the RG3 sideshow for 3 years. He had a front row seat to all the coddling.[/QUOTE]


I'm sure he's pissed about $20m guaranteed for this year with plenty more on the way. He signed that offer pretty damn quick, he could have made things ugly if he really wanted to.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Not only that, he just doesn't seem like a guy to cause ANY controversy.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1144548]This has dragged on long enough. My feeling is KC probably doesn't have the warmest feelings towards ownership and Allen. He had to sit though the RG3 sideshow for 3 years. He had a front row seat to all the coddling.[/QUOTE]



He earned the starting job from those people, and he will earn his money too.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=punch it in;1144553]He earned the starting job from those people, and he will earn his money too.[/quote]

Not to mention endorsements. Most places he would go he'd get a roughly similar paycheck but a huge drop-off in endorsement potential. DC loves Cousins now and if he continues to deliver, will land some major endorsements this offseason for one of the nation's biggest markets. "You like that" will no longer go to charity.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Idk where you guys are getting this nice guy impression from, ever since we traded all those draft picks for him it seems like he wants everything handed to him on a silver platter.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=mooby;1144559]Idk where you guys are getting this nice guy impression from, ever since we traded all those draft picks for him it seems like he wants everything handed to him on a silver platter.[/quote]

Are you talking about Cousins or RG3?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144536]Makes me nervous. Really nervous. Seeing cousins in another uniform tearing it up in 2017 will be a bad, bad thing. There just must be something about him that they don't like for them to not want to lock him up.

Think to the future for a minute and i wonder what team would be most interested in him this off-season. Guess it depends on how a few teams do with their "new" QB's this year....[/quote]

Dude you are easily the most anxious person here on the WP. I can feel your anxiety seeping through every single post you make.

Please for the love of God chill the F out. Wait and see does not mean let Cousins go.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=J. Falcon;1144561]Are you talking about Cousins or RG3?[/quote]

I think he had his sarcasm font on.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1144569]I think he had his sarcasm font on.[/quote]

:D Thanks Joe, I needed that. I feel like I've lost my touch.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Report: No long-term deal expected for Redskins' Cousins before deadline

[url]http://www.thescore.com/news/1059226[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

I'd rather overpay him after 1 more good season.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Evilgrin;1144607]I'd rather overpay him after 1 more good season.[/quote]
I have no problem with it and I doubt this kid has a prob with 19m while currently knocking down 660k.....

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Yeah this no agreement thing is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things on every level...

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

This sums up the situation very well...

Redskins, Cousins take their chances
[URL] http://www.dailyprogress.com/sports/redskins-cousins-take-their-chances/article_a2462dd0-4bb3-11e6-978c-338816a01e16.html
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Redskins GM won't sign Cousins at expense of other good, young players
 

This is interesting

[quote]Washington Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan says he wants to re-sign quarterback Kirk Cousins to a long-term extension, but not if it means he can't afford to pay the team's young prospects.

"(You've) got to step back and say 'Okay, who do we have next year? (Are) there three to five to seven guys that we want to extend prior to the last year of their deal, or do we want to go after one and know we’re going to lose three or four next year?" McCoughan replied to a question about Cousins on SiriusXM Bleacher Report Radio, according to Dan Steinberg of The Washington Post.

"So it’s a fine line, and like I said, it’s tough, but that’s why we do this," McCloughan continued. "It’s the market. The NFL’s a phenomenal, phenomenal entity, and the money’s incredible. But the way I look at it is I want Kirk in a long-term deal, no doubt about it, but also I’m not gonna put our franchise in a situation where we’re gonna lose three or four younger guys that I think are gonna be good football players for one guy. I won’t do it. You know, that’s just how it is.

"And the quarterback position’s very very important, but you know what, so is every other position," McCloughan added. “We need football players. We need multiple football players, not one."[/quote]

[URL="http://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1061694-redskins-gm-won-t-sign-cousins-at-expense-of-other-good-young-players"]LINK[/URL]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=Schneed10;1139997]Don't get your feelings hurt, I call bullshit when I see it and I'm never wrong.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.[/quote]

Damn man you must have hurt his feelings bad:tongue:
He hasnt been back since:)
And that was in March

Re: Redskins GM won't sign Cousins at expense of other good, young players
 

[quote=J. Falcon;1144709]This is interesting



[URL="http://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1061694-redskins-gm-won-t-sign-cousins-at-expense-of-other-good-young-players"]LINK[/URL][/quote]

McC street cred in the lockerroom just went up a notch(not that he really needed anymore). This is why when McC's down on the field before and after the game, players are coming up to this guy smiling, hugging, etc. They respect this guy and want to play for him.

He building a TEAM folks...Its all about TEAM. Not 1 player.

Re: Redskins GM won't sign Cousins at expense of other good, young players
 

[quote=J. Falcon;1144709]This is interesting

Washington Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan says he wants to re-sign quarterback Kirk Cousins to a long-term extension, but not if it means he can't afford to pay the team's young prospects.

"(You've) got to step back and say 'Okay, who do we have next year? (Are) there three to five to seven guys that we want to extend prior to the last year of their deal, or do we want to go after one and know we’re going to lose three or four next year?" McCoughan replied to a question about Cousins on SiriusXM Bleacher Report Radio, according to Dan Steinberg of The Washington Post.

"So it’s a fine line, and like I said, it’s tough, but that’s why we do this," McCloughan continued. "It’s the market. The NFL’s a phenomenal, phenomenal entity, and the money’s incredible. But the way I look at it is I want Kirk in a long-term deal, no doubt about it, but also I’m not gonna put our franchise in a situation where we’re gonna lose three or four younger guys that I think are gonna be good football players for one guy. I won’t do it. You know, that’s just how it is.

"And the quarterback position’s very very important, but you know what, so is every other position," McCloughan added. “We need football players. We need multiple football players, not one."


[URL="http://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1061694-redskins-gm-won-t-sign-cousins-at-expense-of-other-good-young-players"]LINK[/URL][/quote]

Call me negative Nancy, but to me, that sure sounds like he knows they are getting Cousins on a one year deal, and then he will walk while they build the rest of the team. Otherwise, he would have never made that statement about not being able to keep the young guys. My guess is they figure that if they get all the pieces around the QB, they could make do with any scrub / average Quarterback that they wouldn't have to break the bank for.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Earlier this offseason, McCloughan said, "Kirk will be here a long time. ... If it's not done by July 15, don't worry, we'll get something figured out."

[url]http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/17084657/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-fail-reach-long-term-deal[/url]

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

This is an audition year for Kirk. We know that already. This dilemma of who to pay will be much clearer in several months.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=MTK;1144723]Earlier this offseason, McCloughan said, "Kirk will be here a long time. ... If it's not done by July 15, don't worry, we'll get something figured out."

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/17084657/kirk-cousins-washington-redskins-fail-reach-long-term-deal]Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins fail to reach long-term deal[/url][/quote]

i knew i read that somewhere . . . thanks for reposting that.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/07/19/three-college-qbs-who-could-replace-kirk-cousins-on-the-redskins/[/url]

Article seems to hint that Redskins are committed to finding someone who can do what Cousins does for cheap money.

Or there's this gem:
[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/kirk-cousins-found-out-what-redskins-thought-his-v/]Kirk Cousins found out what the Redskins thought of his value: Not much - Washington Times[/url]

They bring up the situation of how much Cousins reminds Mr. Snyder of Mike Shanahan. Mention over and over again how Dan Snyder refused to have RG3 benched, and even today is probably not very rosy over the fact that his guy is gone an Cousins is still here.

And last:

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/scot-mccloughan-kirk-cousins-its-team-sport-its-not-individual-sport]Scot McCloughan to Kirk Cousins: 'It’s a team sport, it’s not an individual sport' | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Scott M is saying flat out he wants to give Cousins the money but they can't because if they do they cannot keep their younger players.

2016 is a one and done for Captain Kirk. 2017 he will be somewhere that wants him and appreciates him. That doesn't seem to be here at the moment....

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144739][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/07/19/three-college-qbs-who-could-replace-kirk-cousins-on-the-redskins/[/url]

Article seems to hint that Redskins are committed to finding someone who can do what Cousins does for cheap money.

Or there's this gem:
[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/kirk-cousins-found-out-what-redskins-thought-his-v/]Kirk Cousins found out what the Redskins thought of his value: Not much - Washington Times[/url]

They bring up the situation of how much Cousins reminds Mr. Snyder of Mike Shanahan. Mention over and over again how Dan Snyder refused to have RG3 benched, and even today is probably not very rosy over the fact that his guy is gone an Cousins is still here.

And last:

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/scot-mccloughan-kirk-cousins-its-team-sport-its-not-individual-sport]Scot McCloughan to Kirk Cousins: 'It’s a team sport, it’s not an individual sport' | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Scott M is saying flat out he wants to give Cousins the money but they can't because if they do they cannot keep their younger players.

2016 is a one and done for Captain Kirk. 2017 he will be somewhere that wants him and appreciates him. That doesn't seem to be here at the moment....[/quote]

'Cause you know, it's good negotiating tactics to say, "Dude, we cannot survive without you. You are irreplaceable."

He puts up numbers again, he is not going anywhere and he gets paid. Simple as that.

Re: Redskins GM won't sign Cousins at expense of other good, young players
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144722]Call me negative Nancy, but to me, that sure sounds like he knows they are getting Cousins on a one year deal, and then he will walk while they build the rest of the team. Otherwise, he would have never made that statement about not being able to keep the young guys. My guess is they figure that if they get all the pieces around the QB, they could make do with any scrub / average Quarterback that they wouldn't have to break the bank for.[/quote]

I doubt they figure that.
Nobody wins championships with scrub QBs.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;1144740]'Cause you know, it's good negotiating tactics to say, "Dude, we cannot survive without you. You are irreplaceable."

[B]He puts up numbers again, he is not going anywhere and he gets paid. Simple as that.[/B][/quote]

this is the bottomline.

Say if Cousins bombs...has a bad season, showing regression and we do decide to move on. Guess what, some team is going to give him a big contract just based on 2015...QB is too sought after and there is always an ego to say "we can fix him" and get him back to a high level. Cousins is getting a big contract here or somewhere else.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

With the OL and receivers he has, he should not regress. If he does, then maybe he's not who we thought he was and doesn't belong here. He will be fine.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1144740]'Cause you know, it's good negotiating tactics to say, "Dude, we cannot survive without you. You are irreplaceable."



He puts up numbers again, he is not going anywhere and he gets paid. Simple as that.[/QUOTE]



Thank you. Jesus Christ it is not complicated.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

The only thing that makes it more complicated is the dreaded injury bug. Tears an ACL in week 10 - what do you do if you're McCloughan? What do you do if you're Cousins?

Otherwise it's definitely simple.

Good thing I don't believe in jinxes.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;1144745]The only thing that makes it more complicated is the dreaded injury bug. Tears an ACL in week 10 - what do you do if you're McCloughan? What do you do if you're Cousins?



Otherwise it's definitely simple.



Good thing I don't believe in jinxes.[/QUOTE]



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Re: Redskins GM won't sign Cousins at expense of other good, young players
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144722]Call me negative Nancy, but to me, that sure sounds like he knows they are getting Cousins on a one year deal, and then he will walk while they build the rest of the team. Otherwise, he would have never made that statement about not being able to keep the young guys. My guess is they figure that if they get all the pieces around the QB, they could make do with any scrub / average Quarterback that they wouldn't have to break the bank for.[/quote]

Negative Nancy,

A year in football is a decade in normal life. Give Cousins 20million this year, and next year, if he has proven himself, he will understand that it takes a team. This year was simply both sides setting limits and that's ok. We don't want KC taking a low offer and skipping out of town at the end, AND we don't want the team overpaying and being tied to him if the typical redskin qb scenario plays out.

The team has and will pay for players who are worth paying for, if KC shows himself to be a competent qb, he will be with the team for a long time. Money will not be the reason he leaves.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/07/15/chris-russell-redskins-rant-kirk-cousins/]Chris Russell: Redskins Trying to ‘Humiliate’ Kirk Cousins « CBS DC[/url]

I missed posting this one earlier. I think all of it sounds pretty true. Mr. Snyder probably hates that "football people" proved him wrong on a player for the 3,762nd time since he became owner. He is pissed off about the RG3 epic failure, and not about to take it lightly. He absolutley would want to humiliate and embarass Cousins even if it means a losing season. He has shown that in the past, with coach firings, etc... Nobody gets one up on him, nobody.....

In the end, it is unalienable fact: This is Mr. Dan Snyder's team, and in the end, he will always get what he wants as owner... The players and personnell that are here, will only be here if he wants them.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

Humiliate Cousins by giving him $20M and adding weapons to the offense??

Jesus fucking Christ.

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144748][url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/07/15/chris-russell-redskins-rant-kirk-cousins/]Chris Russell: Redskins Trying to ‘Humiliate’ Kirk Cousins « CBS DC[/url]

I missed posting this one earlier. I think all of it sounds pretty true. Mr. Snyder probably hates that "football people" proved him wrong on a player for the 3,762nd time since he became owner. He is pissed off about the RG3 epic failure, and not about to take it lightly. He absolutley would want to humiliate and embarass Cousins even if it means a losing season. He has shown that in the past, with coach firings, etc... Nobody gets one up on him, nobody.....

In the end, it is unalienable fact: This is Mr. Dan Snyder's team, and in the end, he will always get what he wants as owner... The players and personnell that are here, will only be here if he wants them.[/quote]

That piece is completely devoid of any facts at all. That doesn't immediately send up red flags about the legitimacy of this "journalism"?

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;1144748][url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/07/15/chris-russell-redskins-rant-kirk-cousins/]Chris Russell: Redskins Trying to ‘Humiliate’ Kirk Cousins « CBS DC[/url]

I missed posting this one earlier. I think all of it sounds pretty true. Mr. Snyder probably hates that "football people" proved him wrong on a player for the 3,762nd time since he became owner. He is pissed off about the RG3 epic failure, and not about to take it lightly. He absolutley would want to humiliate and embarass Cousins even if it means a losing season. He has shown that in the past, with coach firings, etc... Nobody gets one up on him, nobody.....

In the end, it is unalienable fact: This is Mr. Dan Snyder's team, and in the end, he will always get what he wants as owner... The players and personnell that are here, will only be here if he wants them.[/quote]

Chris Russell is just trolling. Typical Chris Russell.