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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140708]One thing we don't talk about as much as we should is the concept of having role players. As you pointed out in your post, the Skins must think that Reyes has the potential to help as a situational inside pass-rusher. Joe Barry coached him in SD, so the Skins know more about him than most teams. He isn't going to be highly paid so he's worth a shot, IMO.

Joe Gibbs was known as "the ultimate role player coach" and he did alright.

I've agreed with you so much lately that I may need to get a "checkup from the neck up". Or, perhaps I'm just now coming to my senses.[/quote]

Excellent post. Finding guys that can do everything well is obviously the holy grail and what you look for in your first round picks. But you have to succeed in the NFL with guys like Kyshoen Jarrett who may not be the prototypical safety but he can cover the slot like a mother.

Situational pass rushers. Blocking tight ends. Shifty slot WRs that can steal a first down like a shady little chain burglar. Dominant goal line defenders - the reason Kedric Golston remains on the roster to this day. You need a way to win the play when the drive is on the line. Everyone plays their part.

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[quote=Schneed10;1140721]Excellent post. Finding guys that can do everything well is obviously the holy grail and what you look for in your first round picks. But you have to succeed in the NFL with guys like Kyshoen Jarrett who may not be the prototypical safety but he can cover the slot like a mother.

Situational pass rushers. Blocking tight ends. Shifty slot WRs that can steal a first down like a shady little chain burglar. Dominant goal line defenders - the reason Kedric Golston remains on the roster to this day. You need a way to win the play when the drive is on the line. Everyone plays their part.[/quote]

No way, we want 53 All Pro's.

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[quote=mooby;1140741]No way, we want 53 All Pro's.[/quote]

Under 25 years old and all of them signed at the vet minimum. LOL.

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The Washington Post's Mike Jones reports the Redskins and free agent OLB Junior Galette (Achilles') remain far apart in negotiations.

Galette is after a one-year contract after tearing his Achilles' in training camp last year, but he does not appear ready to accept the incentive-based salary which normally comes with a "prove-it" deal. Jones reports the Redskins have offered one-, two- and three- year contracts, but each deal includes low base salaries with salary incentives. Other teams have interest, but Jones reports their offers are similar to Washington's. It appears this standoff could last quite some time.

Need to get this done

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[quote=Chico23231;1140750]The Washington Post's Mike Jones reports the Redskins and free agent OLB Junior Galette (Achilles') remain far apart in negotiations.

Galette is after a one-year contract after tearing his Achilles' in training camp last year, but he does not appear ready to accept the incentive-based salary which normally comes with a "prove-it" deal. Jones reports the Redskins have offered one-, two- and three- year contracts, but each deal includes low base salaries with salary incentives. Other teams have interest, but Jones reports their offers are similar to Washington's. It appears this standoff could last quite some time.

Need to get this done[/quote]

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/03/14/redskins-waiting-on-word-from-will-blackmon-junior-galette/?postshare=9951457962594106&tid=ss_tw[/url]

It is interesting from this article that the Redskins have the opportunity to match any offer Gallette receives from other teams. I have a feeling this may drag out, if Gallette wants to wait and see if there is any team out there who gives him a better offer as a result of some type of injury.

However, I feel that Gallette just needs to take whatever deal gets offered, because he's basically in the same situation he was last year. While I believe the off-field stuff is not an issue any more, his season ending injury is likely giving teams a pause in making him an offer close to what he wants.

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Fuck him then. Bye Junior. Sorry your being a greedy child

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[quote=Ruhskins;1140751][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/03/14/redskins-waiting-on-word-from-will-blackmon-junior-galette/?postshare=9951457962594106&tid=ss_tw[/url]

It is interesting from this article that the Redskins have the opportunity to match any offer Gallette receives from other teams. I have a feeling this may drag out, if Gallette wants to wait and see if there is any team out there who gives him a better offer as a result of some type of injury.

However, I feel that Gallette just needs to take whatever deal gets offered, because he's basically in the same situation he was last year. While I believe the off-field stuff is not an issue any more, his season ending injury is likely giving teams a pause in making him an offer close to what he wants.[/quote]

Major injury + Indiana Jones beach video = not a lot of wiggle room.

He has the ultimate dickhead as his agent now as well. Really like to ask J.G. what does he expect at this point?

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[quote=Meks;1140752]Fuck him then. Bye Junior. Sorry your being a greedy child[/quote]

:doh:

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Let it play out, the team holds all the cards here... why the F do fans get so cranky over contracts? It's a process.

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He's an emotional guy, its going to take him a bit to come around to reality but since the Redskins have the right to match any offer they're in no hurry to up the ante. All they have to do is let other teams set the market and match it, which they'll surely do.

I see it dragging out forever but he'll definitely be a Skin.

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Gallete has no leverage. He didn't play last year, he has a suspension coming, he's coming off a serious injury, he's got a video beating some chicks ass. Oh...and on his way out of New Orleans he basically trashed everyone. I doubt anyone is going to give him a contract that isn't incentive based. He's not getting any deal with a lot of guaranteed money.

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An admirably succinct and accurate summary.


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[quote=skinsfan69;1140761]Gallete has no leverage. He didn't play last year, he has a suspension coming, he's coming off a serious injury, he's got a video beating some chicks ass. Oh...and on his way out of New Orleans he basically trashed everyone. I doubt anyone is going to give him a contract that isn't incentive based. He's not getting any deal with a lot of guaranteed money.[/quote]

Suspension was already served last year. But otherwise right on.

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Blackmon back with the team:

[url=http://www.richmond.com/redskins-xtra/article_0375856e-92e1-5a0c-af82-07b554aa3248.html?mode=story]Redskins re-sign cornerback Will Blackmon - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Redskins XTRA[/url]

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Blackmon .... he filled in admirably for being asked to play 90% of D and ST snaps as a guy off the street last year. Hopefully he is intended to be used as deep depth and ST play. I really dont want him as our starting corner while we wait for Culliver.

Barry said he had to dial down the blitz options bc he had to protect our secondary. I do not want the same defense as last year. Same personnel = same defense imo. Easier said then done but you need 3 starting caliber corners in the NFL nowadays imo. Culliver and Bree are 2. We need to add a 3rd. One injury to one player shouldnt have such huge ripple effects like it did last year by altering our entire approach and scheme.

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[quote=Schneed10;1140757]He's an emotional guy, its going to take him a bit to come around to reality but since the Redskins have the right to match any offer they're in no hurry to up the ante. All they have to do is let other teams set the market and match it, which they'll surely do.

I see it dragging out forever but he'll definitely be a Skin.[/quote]

It may, at this time be appropriate to see how he fares with the.............[B]Physical fitness test[/B]?

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no one is ever going to give JG $8m this year straight up. if someone was that dumb, he'd be signed to another team right now. the right of refusal is probably hurting his ability to get a contract elsewhere though, since no one wants to waste their time hammering out a deal on our behalf. anything reasonable is going to get matched, so why bother?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1140769]Blackmon back with the team:

[url=http://www.richmond.com/redskins-xtra/article_0375856e-92e1-5a0c-af82-07b554aa3248.html?mode=story]Redskins re-sign cornerback Will Blackmon - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Redskins XTRA[/url][/quote]

Glad to see this. He made a few key big plays last year.
Hope he keeps his wheels oiled up & makes the team.

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[quote=That Guy;1140776]no one is ever going to give JG $8m this year straight up. if someone was that dumb, he'd be signed to another team right now. [B]the right of refusal is probably hurting his ability to get a contract [/B]elsewhere though, since no one wants to waste their time hammering out a deal on our behalf. anything reasonable is going to get matched, so why bother?[/quote]

it is obvious the Redskins are being frugal, so if another team thinks he is worth $$$ then it is doubtful the Redskins will match the offer.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1140780]it is obvious the Redskins are being frugal, so if another team thinks he is worth $$$ then it is doubtful the Redskins will match the offer.[/quote]

If somebody thought he was worth a lot then they likely would have made that offer by now.

He's only getting low salary deals with incentives.

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paying market value is not being frugal.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1140782]paying market value is not being frugal.[/quote]

The Redskins have signed [B]one free agent[/B] from another team. And it was a relatively small contract.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1140783]The Redskins have signed [B]one free agent[/B] from another team. And it was a relatively small contract.[/QUOTE]
Agreed! [emoji106]

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at this point in free agency, the big money is basically gone. anyone still holding out like JG or fitz has, in all likelyhood, already missed the boat (except maybe kaep, but that's a trade).

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I wonder if there was any other interest in Reggie Nelson other than your basic kicking of tires

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1140787]I wonder if there was any other interest in Reggie Nelson other than your basic kicking of tires[/quote]

lets hope so, a good experienced free safety is vital ... even if he is a short term solution. Resigning Goldson is a desperate move.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1140787]I wonder if there was any other interest in Reggie Nelson other than your basic kicking of tires[/quote]

I think we are talking...this could go like the Casey Hayward situation. If we negotiate and lose out, look for us to resign Goldson fairly quickly.

When Heyward agreed, we then made an offer to Blackmon to bring him back.

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The free agent market this year has not had a lot of choices for us or anyone else for that matter.
Its obvious why we have signed bupkiss.
Having said that I hope that McClue has something in the works to get us additional draft picks.
As it stands, I could see us drafting defense the first four rounds in a row.

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Um, free agency is far from over.

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Yea...I know...but the crop sucks as I pointed out, so...meh...
Trades are a whole nother animal.

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The Baltimore Sun's Jeff Zrebiec speculates Ravens SS Will Hill could be a cap cut following the signing of FS Eric Weddle.

Lardarius Webb's $9.5 million cap hit would be the most obvious cut, but Baltimore has made it clear they see Webb as a starting safety this season. Hill was the Ravens' best safety last year, but it could be difficult to justify his nearly $4.6 million cap hit if he is riding the bench. That said, Webb should be asked to play in the slot in sub packages, and both Webb and Weddle profile more as free safeties. It is possible all three are on the field together for the majority of the snaps in 2016. If anyone is getting cut, mega-bust Matt Elam might be the best candidate.


per Baltimore Sun

Could be an opportunity if one of their safeties are cut.

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I would definitely say it differently. The crop sucks in comparison to the money doled out in the first day or two. But there are still players that can help teams.

It's rare when you actually get your money's worth on the free agents that go in the first day or two. Olivier Vernon will be a prime example for years to come. No way he's worth more guaranteed money than JJ Watt.

Aging guys and role players can still play a big role on your team. At this point in free agency you're not going to find top-line starters so I get where you're coming from, but you can still find guys to fill roles. Special teams coverage ace, a guy like Pierre Thomas to be a receiving threat on third downs, these are little things that make the difference in winning and losing a lot of games.

The Cerrato move would have been to splurge on the guys available on day 1. But the right approach is to scour the player pool like McCloughan does and find role players who bring their lunch pail. You match the performance to the pay that way much better than you ever could on a day 1 free agent.

There are a lot of useful football players still available. Sometimes it just takes those players some time to come around to the fact that they're not going to land the dream pay day.

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[quote=Chico23231;1140799]The Baltimore Sun's Jeff Zrebiec speculates Ravens SS Will Hill could be a cap cut following the signing of FS Eric Weddle.

Lardarius Webb's $9.5 million cap hit would be the most obvious cut, but Baltimore has made it clear they see Webb as a starting safety this season. Hill was the Ravens' best safety last year, but it could be difficult to justify his nearly $4.6 million cap hit if he is riding the bench. That said, Webb should be asked to play in the slot in sub packages, and both Webb and Weddle profile more as free safeties. It is possible all three are on the field together for the majority of the snaps in 2016. If anyone is getting cut, mega-bust Matt Elam might be the best candidate.


per Baltimore Sun

Could be an opportunity if one of their safeties are cut.[/quote]

If they cut Will Hill in favor of Webb they are beyond stupid

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From Keim:

John Keim
ESPN Staff Writer

The Redskins hosted safety [URL="http://www.nfl.com/player/davidbruton/79545/profile"]David Bruton[/URL] Tuesday, according to a source. Bruton played strong safety for Denver and suffered a season-ending broken fibula on Dec. 20. The Broncos reportedly remain interested in re-signing a player who has been a team captain the last three years.

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Seems Scot likes adding former captains. Galette, Goldson, Long, now Bruton ... makes sense.

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Scot is amazing. Love the Bruton signing!!

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Per John Keim, Redskins have signed David Bruton

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Pretty good signing IMO. Hopefully his injury from 2015 is not an issue any more.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Redskins-Sign-Safety-David-Bruton/995d0f96-d1f2-4d24-82ac-37680801f389]Redskins Sign Safety David Bruton[/url]

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Good pick up imo

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We seriously need to upgrade the safety position through the draft. Badly.