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Cleveland looks like the spot for RGIII, Hue Jackson would be a good person for RGIII. I hope it works out for him.

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/robert_griffin_iii_has_convinc.html]Robert Griffin III has convinced Hue Jackson he's 'humbled' and has 'taken responsibility' for Washington debacle | cleveland.com[/url]

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Morris in Dallas doesn't scare me. Dez Bryant is still what scares me about that team. Nothing's really changed because of this signing. But I get it, it just sucks.

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I can't believe those dirty sons of bitches. Like I need more ammo to hate Dallas. Out of all the teams, and its not about him killing us, just sucks that one of my favorite players is on my least favorite team. Damnit.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1141199]Cleveland looks like the spot for RGIII, Hue Jackson would be a good person for RGIII. I hope it works out for him.

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/robert_griffin_iii_has_convinc.html]Robert Griffin III has convinced Hue Jackson he's 'humbled' and has 'taken responsibility' for Washington debacle | cleveland.com[/url][/quote]

Jackson would be good for him, too bad the franchise is a complete disaster though.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1141171]Morris to the Cowpukes per Schefter. I just threw up in my mouth.



[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Report-Alfred-Morris-Cowboys-Agree-To-Deal/2bdb0f21-7f84-4f8c-9909-e162ae768feb?sf22954056=1]Report: Alfred Morris, Cowboys Agree To Deal[/url][/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=MTK;1141202]Jackson would be good for him, too bad the franchise is a complete disaster though.[/QUOTE]


If - and thats a big if - Griff winds up starting a game at some point for Cleveland or whoever signs him I am going to be rooting for him to do really well. That is a problem because if he does and lets just say KC takes a step back(Which I think will be the exact opposite of what happens) - oh boy. The media and all the Redskin haters out there will just rip us a new one. Again, imo Cousins is still ascending and Griff is finished, but there will still be that dilemma of rooting for him. Maybe I will root for Cousins to beat Griff in the Superbowl in the greatest qb battle of all time? There ya go.

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[quote=MTK;1141202]Jackson would be good for him, too bad the franchise is a complete disaster though.[/quote]

A few years back, the Browns had a pretty good team that just didnt have a QB (trading up to get Weeden and Manzielaholic were desperation moves to solve that). Not so much anymore. RG3 is going to get killed behind that OL unless he learns to release as soon as his back foot hits the ground. Thats not what he is good at. He should go to someplace that has a strong OL or to a team that runs a system more suited for him (Buffalo has Chan Gailey who runs a spread type system).

As for Morris, im really surprised he went to Dallas (and surprised Dallas signed him). His strength is the stretch runs where he can use his vision and one step cut ability. He has power, but he is not what is considered a power back. He is not a hit the hole hard type of guy. Denver should have said no to the CJ Anderson offer sheet and pursued Morris. He would be an ideal fit for Kubiaks offense.

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Morris dropped each yr after his rookie season.

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Pretty telling that Denver has had both their QB's depart and they haven't picked up the phone to call Griffin. Instead they give up a draft pick for Sanchez of all people. Obviously the rumor that "at least 10 teams are interested" was not true. He may be out of the league in a year or less.

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that draft pick was a conditional 7th, so it might not even end up costing them that. sanchez is a safer bet now, but, i mean, who's pinning super bowl hopes on that?

if griffin can find a home at prove some level of improvement, he can have a 9-10 career as a backup. just look at how long patrick ramsey stuck around on nfl rosters - and he wasn't as talented as griffin (but he had a lot less drama).

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[quote=Schneed10;1141200]Morris in Dallas doesn't scare me. Dez Bryant is still what scares me about that team. Nothing's really changed because of this signing. But I get it, it just sucks.[/quote]


The only positive is that they probably won't draft Zeke Elliot now and he really scared me behind that line.

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[quote=hutch17;1141215]The only positive is that they probably won't draft Zeke Elliot now and he really scared me behind that line.[/quote]

I don't know. They only signed Morris for two years. I still can see Zeke being in play for them and it terrifies me too.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1141208]Pretty telling that Denver has had both their QB's depart and they haven't picked up the phone to call Griffin. Instead they give up a draft pick for Sanchez of all people. Obviously the rumor that "at least 10 teams are interested" was not true. He may be out of the league in a year or less.[/QUOTE]
Yeah when your only resort is the browns u are in trouble.. apparently Cooley may have been right about players not liking him.

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The Plowboys are gonna draft Bosa anyways so....pfffffft

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Fuck dallas

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[quote=Skinzman;1141205]A few years back, the Browns had a pretty good team that just didnt have a QB (trading up to get Weeden and Manzielaholic were desperation moves to solve that). Not so much anymore. RG3 is going to get killed behind that OL unless he learns to release as soon as his back foot hits the ground. Thats not what he is good at. He should go to someplace that has a strong OL or to a team that runs a system more suited for him (Buffalo has Chan Gailey who runs a spread type system).

As for Morris, im really surprised he went to Dallas (and surprised Dallas signed him). His strength is the stretch runs where he can use his vision and one step cut ability. He has power, but he is not what is considered a power back. He is not a hit the hole hard type of guy. Denver should have said no to the CJ Anderson offer sheet and pursued Morris. He would be an ideal fit for Kubiaks offense.[/quote]

When exactly did they have a pretty good team? lol

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/]Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1141238]When exactly did they have a pretty good team? lol

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/]Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Yeah without looking I think the last time they made the playoffs was when they had Holcomb at qb.. believe they played pitt

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[quote=MTK;1141238]When exactly did they have a pretty good team? lol

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/]Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url][/quote]

I did kind of say that wrong. Didnt mean that the team itself was good. I meant that they had some really good individual parts. Their OL was actually really good. DL was above average. Had a couple in the secondary that were real good although the unit itself wasnt great. Had the bongman as a receiver who was really good for a couple of years.

The main downfall was the QB position. They could have been a fringe playoff team with a good QB, possibly better. They couldnt get an average QB. They went for homeruns on QBs and whiffed every time. Weeden was a last ditch effort with some good players still there. Manziel was also but players were hitting FA and leaving as soon as they could at that point. Their drafts havent been good the last few years either.

Thats why I say a few years ago would have been different. I think the parts were much better then. Hue might be good for him, but he would be back on a below average team and hes not carrying an offense. I think the Browns will turn out bad for him unless they all of a sudden get much better outside of the QB position. Hes going to need that because if he goes there and starts, and another year 3 happens, hes either going to be dead or selling cars.

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Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.

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[quote=hutch17;1141256]Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/24/report-browns-expected-to-reach-deal-with-rg3-today/]Report: Browns expected to reach deal with RG3 today | ProFootballTalk[/url]

yup...Schefty reporting it as well. Oh well.

I think this is probably worst case for RG3.

Broncos and Jets both in desperate need of a QB and they were never serious about RG3. To me, that tells me a lot. Both playoff caliber teams said not even a chance.

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Looks like Cleveland is the only chance where he'll be able to compete for a starting job, even if they take a qb in the draft. I'm sure he would've gotten other offers elsewhere to be a backup, but I'm not sure his ego would've allowed that.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1141239]Yeah without looking I think the last time they made the playoffs was when they had Holcomb at qb.. believe they played pitt[/quote]
cheese and crackers! they have been to the playoffs twice since 1990. waht a depressing franchise.

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Good for RGIII, I hope he succeeds

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647310/article/browns-expected-to-sign-rg3]Robert Griffin III signs with Browns - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=hutch17;1141256]Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.[/quote]

Of course that assumes that KC wanted him. I never heard anything of the sort.

That's the most damning thing here. He has been a free agent for two+ weeks, the only visits he took were the Jets and the Browns.

The Rams have Foles as their best option and they didn't bring Robert in. Elway currently has Sanchez as his best option, and he didn't bring Robert in. The Jets currently have Geno Smith, and aren't willing to go higher than $8M to Fitzpatrick. They kicked the tires on Griffin but didn't bend over backwards to sign him. Houston really needed a QB, and rather than give RG3 a look they figured they'd throw $18M per season at Osweiler who has only played what, 8 games in the NFL?

Teams that really needed a QB aren't interested in him. And Shefter is reporting that Cleveland is still likely to draft a QB with #2 overall.

Most of us understand because we're a fairly knowledgeable board, but Robert really has fallen that far. 2012 is not coming back.

The Browns come to Fed Ex in 2016. I wonder if Griffin even plays. You'd have to say chances are it will be Goff, Wentz, or McCown.

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I was very surprised how little attention RG3 got during the free agent period. Thought for sure the Rams, KC, maybe the Bills, Dallas, Texans or San Fran would show more interest.

Really surprised nobody didn't make more of an effort.

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[B]@RapSheet

The #Browns signed RGIII to a 2-year deal worth $15M, source said. He gets 6.75M guaranteed. Large investment.[/B]



Not sure I would have given him that kind of money. Wish him the best and I think it's the best scenario he could go to. (minus the fact it's the Browns)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1141260]Good for RGIII, I hope he succeeds

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647310/article/browns-expected-to-sign-rg3]Robert Griffin III signs with Browns - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

Same here.

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If I were his agent I would have pointed to Brock's contract then pointed to 2012 and say, "Let's be real here."

Honestly, I think he's done, but with the contracts given out this year, I'm not shocked.

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[quote=Schneed10;1141261]Of course that assumes that KC wanted him. I never heard anything of the sort.

That's the most damning thing here. He has been a free agent for two+ weeks, the only visits he took were the Jets and the Browns.

The Rams have Foles as their best option and they didn't bring Robert in. Elway currently has Sanchez as his best option, and he didn't bring Robert in. The Jets currently have Geno Smith, and aren't willing to go higher than $8M to Fitzpatrick. They kicked the tires on Griffin but didn't bend over backwards to sign him. Houston really needed a QB, and rather than give RG3 a look they figured they'd throw $18M per season at Osweiler who has only played what, 8 games in the NFL?

Teams that really needed a QB aren't interested in him. And Shefter is reporting that Cleveland is still likely to draft a QB with #2 overall.

Most of us understand because we're a fairly knowledgeable board, but Robert really has fallen that far. 2012 is not coming back.

The Browns come to Fed Ex in 2016. I wonder if Griffin even plays. You'd have to say chances are it will be Goff, Wentz, or McCown.[/quote]

I agree with everything you just posted! I would say there's less than a 50/50 chance Griffin is playing when the Browns face the 'skins.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1141263][B]@RapSheet

The #Browns signed RGIII to a 2-year deal worth $15M, source said. He gets 6.75M guaranteed. Large investment.[/B]



Not sure I would have given him that kind of money. Wish him the best and I think it's the best scenario he could go to. (minus the fact it's the Browns)[/quote]

whoa...contract also has 7 million more in incentives...possible 2 year at 22 million. Why Cleveland, why?

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[quote=mooby;1141258]Looks like Cleveland is the only chance where he'll be able to compete for a starting job, even if they take a qb in the draft. I'm sure he would've gotten other offers elsewhere to be a backup, but I'm not sure his ego would've allowed that.[/quote]

meanwhile Cleveland head coach Hue Jackson is in SD to watch Carson Wentz pro day

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Didn't they say somewhere they intend to bring in another QB for competition.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1141268]meanwhile Cleveland head coach Hue Jackson is in SD to watch Carson Wentz pro day[/quote]

Regardless of whether a qb is drafted or not I expect an open competition in Cleveland this year. Odds of RG3 winning that competition against McCown or a 2nd overall pick: I'd say 10%, but stranger things have happened.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1141269]Didn't they say somewhere they intend to bring in another QB for competition.[/quote]

There are different levels of competition. When you invest the #2 pick in the draft you are not looking for a back-up.

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Let's keep it in perspective, $7.5M per season is about what Chase Daniel got from the Eagles. That might have seemed like a lot of money in the old paradigm but Sam Bradford and Brock Osweiler just got $18M.

This contract signals that RG3 will not be the clear cut starter in Cleveland.

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Good for Griffin. He gets a fresh new start. Just surprised that the Browns guaranteed him almost 7 million. There's a chance that he's the 3rd string QB. He's probably not going to beat out McCown, at some point Cleveland is going to want to see the rookie get in there. Just makes no sense to me.

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I wonder if there were any other places he could have gone. If there were, he probably wouldn't be in Cleveland.

He is going to be the sacrificial lamb thrown out on the field while they rebuild. I hope he doesn't get hurt.

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a couple things that should worry cleveland fans.

they fell in love with him at a workout (where he doesn't read defences or have to worry about pocket presence), and they paid a lot of money to a guy with nowhere else to go (bidding against themselves).

choice quotes like "i'll take a new QB under my wing", "I've been through more in four years than most people go through in their lifetime." "no one's ever handed me anything"... you mean besides two massive contracts and a starting job in the NFL, right?

have fun in cleveland! i don't see it working out too well, but i guess you never know.

as far as espn asking if they still need to draft a QB now... YES, you do. 100%.

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Not to mention, " what happened there would break a lot of people." Like what? You getting benched multiple times cause you were not good enough to keep the job? I give it a slim to none chance of him working out in Cleveland. They're not a stable organization and he still isn't a good QB.

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Its going to be an uphill battle. I wish Griffin success. Sounds like Hue is giving him a clean slate; and maybe more importantly they better hope Gordon comes back from suspension.