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[quote=Alvin Walton;1166600]If Jackson and Garcon leave its gonna be our #2 priority.
We are then left with Crowder and some gimpy kid.[/quote]

No We have, Crowder, Doctson (maybe injury prone but had flashes and is our first round pick last year, we have to plan to rely on him), Reed, Thompson out of the backfield.

Our Safeties - Ugh
Our DL - Ugh
Our LB's - Meh
Our OL - could use a LG maybe C

Now if you mean our #1 Priority is [B]D/trenches/ST/non-Offensive skills positions[/B], and our #2 priority is [B]offensive skills positions[/B] then I agree with you.

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Garcon was probably frustrated with not getting the ball that much and running short routes all time. But you can't question his heart and toughness. I really hope they bring him back but he's not a 8 or 9 million dollar wr. At this point in his career he's probably worth 4 or 5 million... maybe.

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Garçon will get paid by someone and it won't be for 4 or 5 mill.

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i would love for us to sign brandon williams from baltimore and bennie logan from phlilly on the D line,

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Marquise Goodwin has been mentioned today. Kenny stills as well.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/07/patriots-cowboys-reportedly-interested-in-desean-jackson/]Patriots, Cowboys reportedly interested in DeSean Jackson | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Now is the time for all good teams to come to rumor mill of the player agents.

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[url]https://www.google.com/amp/www.bucsnation.com/platform/amp/2017/3/9/14871336/desean-jackson-gets-35-million-from-buccaneers[/url]

D -Jax with the score

I know we all knew it was coming, but this is a huge loss. I already hate next year and it is early March. Lol

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CSN says the Redskins did NOT try to sign Baker

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-did-not-attempt-re-sign-chris-baker-according-baker-and-others?utm_content=buffer737e8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer]Redskins did not attempt to re-sign Chris Baker, according to Baker and others | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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I hope we get Pryor, I don't even know if he would work but it give me something to be happy about this off season. Good god, this is miserable.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1167475]CSN says the Redskins did NOT try to sign Baker

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-did-not-attempt-re-sign-chris-baker-according-baker-and-others?utm_content=buffer737e8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer]Redskins did not attempt to re-sign Chris Baker, according to Baker and others | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url][/quote]

This is a big mistake.
The two DL we signed are younger, but they are not nearly as good and we ended up paying about what Baker signed with his new team.
We are a weaker team today compared to pre March 7th.
Allen, Gruden and Snyder front office are off to a bad start.
I am not happy with this FO arrangement.
We have a business man, contract negotiater and a pass happy offensive minded coach picking our roster. Our defense went from bad to worse. Our d line is worse and Swearinger is not the answer. I saw too much of him here in Houston. He is slow and gets beat deep all of the time. Liability.
What the fuck is going on in Washington.

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Swearinger had a great year last year.
And nobody feared Baker, he wasnt a big deal.
I dont get all the angst over him.
We need to rebuild our d line anyways.

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[quote=Defensewins;1167522]This is a big mistake.
The two DL we signed are younger, but they are not nearly as good and we ended up paying about what Baker signed with his new team.
We are a weaker team today compared to pre March 7th.
Allen, Gruden and Snyder front office are off to a bad start.
I am not happy with this FO arrangement.
We have a business man, contract negotiater and a pass happy offensive minded coach picking our roster. Our defense went from bad to worse. Our d line is worse and Swearinger is not the answer. I saw too much of him here in Houston. He is slow and gets beat deep all of the time. Liability.
What the fuck is going on in Washington.[/quote]

So far per Peter King they are following McC plan in Free Agency:

[url=http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/10/washington-redskins-scot-mccloughan-nfl-free-agency]Washington Redskins a mess again; NFL free agency notes | The MMQB with Peter King[/url]

While McCloughan hasn’t been involved in any Redskins’ decision over the past two weeks, the team has followed his board early in free agency—safety DJ Swearinger and defensive tackles Terrell McClain and Stacy McGee were high on his list as he emphasized rebuilding the defense up the middle. Washington landed all three of those guys. And the draft board, while subject to change, also was set before he left.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1167524]Swearinger had a great year last year.
And nobody feared Baker, he wasnt a big deal.
I dont get all the angst over him.
We need to rebuild our d line anyways.[/quote]

Half the reason Baker looked so good was because everyone around him was sooo bad. He was the only tiny bright spot in a black hole.

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[quote=mredskins;1167525]So far per Peter King they are following McC plan in Free Agency:

[url=http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/10/washington-redskins-scot-mccloughan-nfl-free-agency]Washington Redskins a mess again; NFL free agency notes | The MMQB with Peter King[/url]

While McCloughan hasn’t been involved in any Redskins’ decision over the past two weeks, the team has followed his board early in free agency—safety DJ Swearinger and defensive tackles Terrell McClain and Stacy McGee were high on his list as he emphasized rebuilding the defense up the middle. Washington landed all three of those guys. And the draft board, while subject to change, also was set before he left.[/quote]

Yup, up the middle is where we need to grow. I just hope who he brought in can deliver....but if they were McC guys, I feel much better. Would like to see that ILB position upgraded.

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[quote=mredskins;1167527]Half the reason Baker looked so good was because everyone around him was sooo bad. He was the only tiny bright spot in a black hole.[/quote]

good point. He seemed to disappear a lot, much like the rest of the D. Sounds like this decision was made long before McC disappeared himself. I'm ok with what they have done so far. I'm hoping they make a push for Poe, Hankins, Hightower.

Wonder if they will hang on to Sullivan...would probably be a good idea.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1167524]Swearinger had a great year last year.
And nobody feared Baker, he wasnt a big deal.
I dont get all the angst over him.
We need to rebuild our d line anyways.[/quote]

Last season journeyman DJ Swearinger played on one of the top NFL defenses and for one of the top Defensive coaches Bruce Arians. Cardinals will still be good on defense. Swearinger, not so much.
Before last year Swearinger was considered a big hitter and not much else. Slow and was susceptible to get beat deep.
He did not get an extension from Cardinals before Free Agency. His three former teams were content to let him go.
Swearinger will not be protected like he was with the Cardinals. He will be a liability.

Baker was our best interior D lineman by far. Not even close
So you "rebuild your D-line" by keeping the turds and not signing your best guy? You call that rebuilding? Rebuilding would be the opposite. keep the good ones and get rid of the turds.
The decision to release Baker was about age and cost, not ability.
The two replacements are young and IMO not as good.
“Baker is better,” said the NFC defensive coach. “More expensive, but stronger.”
Said in this article.
[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/03/10/what-to-make-of-newly-acquired-redskins-defensive-linemen-terrell-mcclain-stacy-mcgee/?utm_term=.8ef221b04741"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/03/10/what-to-make-of-newly-acquired-redskins-defensive-linemen-terrell-mcclain-stacy-mcgee/?utm_term=.8ef221b04741[/URL]

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[quote=Defensewins;1167629]Last season journeyman DJ Swearinger played on one of the top NFL defenses and for one of the top Defensive coaches Bruce Arians. Cardinals will still be good on defense. Swearinger, not so much.
Before last year Swearinger was considered a big hitter and not much else. Slow and was susceptible to get beat deep.
He did not get an extension from Cardinals before Free Agency. His three former teams were content to let him go.
Swearinger will not be protected like he was with the Cardinals. He will be a liability.

Baker was our best interior D lineman by far. Not even close
So you "rebuild your D-line" by keeping the turds and not signing your best guy? You call that rebuilding? Rebuilding would be the opposite. keep the good ones and get rid of the turds.
The decision to release Baker was about age and cost, not ability.
The two replacements are young and IMO not as good.
“Baker is better,” said the NFC defensive coach. “More expensive, but stronger.”
Said in this article.
[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/03/10/what-to-make-of-newly-acquired-redskins-defensive-linemen-terrell-mcclain-stacy-mcgee/?utm_term=.8ef221b04741"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/03/10/what-to-make-of-newly-acquired-redskins-defensive-linemen-terrell-mcclain-stacy-mcgee/?utm_term=.8ef221b04741[/URL][/quote]

I thought exactly same thing about Swearinger when I first saw the news, until I read more about him and turns out he has been steadily improving in coverage and PFF actually rated him positive for both coverage and tackling.

I wonder if this whole situation with Scot did not happen and Scot is still our currently GM - would you have thought exactly same opinion you just wrote? After all, one report states that Scot created a free agency board of players we should attempt to sign few weeks before this terrible situation occurred. Per the report, Scot is high on those three players we just signed. I cannot find the report, I guess it's like finding a needle in haystack after all reports about Scot and Cousins situations.

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[quote=GridIron26;1167660]I thought exactly same thing about Swearinger when I first saw the news, until I read more about him and turns out he has been steadily improving in coverage and PFF actually rated him positive for both coverage and tackling.

I wonder if this whole situation with Scot did not happen and Scot is still our currently GM - would you have thought exactly same opinion you just wrote? After all, one report states that Scot created a free agency board of players we should attempt to sign few weeks before this terrible situation occurred. Per the report, Scot is high on those three players we just signed. I cannot find the report, I guess it's like finding a needle in haystack after all reports about Scot and Cousins situations.[/quote]

It's funny that you mention this, because to me all these signings are very similar to the signings that Scot has done in the past.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1167663]It's funny that you mention this, because to me all these signings are very similar to the signings that Scot has done in the past.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Only this time, I hope it will work out well for us..

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Terrelle Pryor just signed a one year $8 million deal with the Redskins as per NFLN.

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[quote=Defensewins;1167670]Terrelle Pryor just signed a one year $8 million deal with the Redskins as per NFLN.[/quote]

[URL="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/840305406639525890"]Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter [/URL] 26s26 seconds ago
Washington giving WR Terrelle Pryor a one-year, $8 million deal, per sources.

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[quote=Defensewins;1167670]Terrelle Pryor just signed a one year $8 million deal with the Redskins as per NFLN.[/quote]

wow... I kind of like this signing. Plus it's only for one year. He can do some damage with the guys we have. I like this and he will hopefully help in the redzone.

So if Doc can get himself right we now have two guys on the outside with some size, and Crowder in the slot and of course Reed. I'm liking this a lot.

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Like this relatively inexpensive move. Now go get Donta Hightower and Bennie Logan. Please.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1167673]wow... I kind of like this signing. Plus it's only for one year. He can do some damage with the guys we have. I like this and he will hopefully help in the redzone.[/quote]

Our skills players on offense:

QB Kirk Cousins
RB Rob Kelley
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Jamison Crowder
WR Josh Doctson
TE Jordan Reed
TE Vernon Davis

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167672][URL="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/840305406639525890"]Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter [/URL] 26s26 seconds ago
Washington giving WR Terrelle Pryor a one-year, $8 million deal, per sources.[/quote]

Safe, prove it deal auditioning with for the big contract. Nice job

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[quote=skinsfan69;1167673]wow... I kind of like this signing. Plus it's only for one year. He can do some damage with the guys we have. I like this and he will hopefully help in the redzone.

So if Doc can get himself right we now have two guys on the outside with some size, and Crowder in the slot and of course Reed. I'm liking this a lot.[/quote]

Fade. Route.

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[quote=Defensewins;1167670]Terrelle Pryor just signed a one year $8 million deal with the Redskins as per NFLN.[/quote]

Great!

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[quote=Chico23231;1167677]Safe, prove it deal auditioning with for the big contract. Nice job[/quote]

Yep, I like the set up.
Good deal!

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Good deal, now fix things with KC!

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i like this a lot. i would have preferred a multi-year deal but this insures that he will be a motivated player throughout this season.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1167675]Our skills players on offense:

QB Kirk Cousins
RB Rob Kelley
WR Terrelle Pryor
WR Jamison Crowder
WR Josh Doctson
TE Jordan Reed
TE Vernon Davis[/quote]

Plus Thompson out of the backfield. I like the one year deal. Nice job there by the FO. Make him prove it.

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The Redskins make NFL history!

"It hasn’t been an overly positive week for the Redskins, who became the first team in NFL history to lose two 1,000-yard receivers from the previous year in the same offseason."

- Sam Robinson, [url]www.profootballrumors.com[/url]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1167888]The Redskins make NFL history!

"It hasn’t been an overly positive week for the Redskins, who became the first team in NFL history to lose two 1,000-yard receivers from the previous year in the same offseason."

- Sam Robinson, [url]www.profootballrumors.com[/url][/quote]

I think the media is making too big a deal out of it. We were not going to overpay for two 30 year old wr's when we have Crowder and Docston. The front office played this perfectly. Let's hope Doc is ready to go, they signed a low risk, high reward free agent and we're fine.

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If the Patriots let them go, it would be getting rid of them at the right time. If we lose them it's awful and if we paid to keep them they would bash us for over paying aging veterans. No win situation. That's why I try to form my own opinion 1st prior to reading any outside articles. Healthy Docton/Pryor > Jax/Garcon at this point in their careers.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1167890]I think the media is making too big a deal out of it. We were not going to overpay for two 30 year old wr's when we have Crowder and Docston. The front office played this perfectly. Let's hope Doc is ready to go, they signed a low risk, high reward free agent and we're fine.[/quote]

This is true if Doctson is healthy and can start. Garçon is a great guy to have in the locker room and a ballsy in your face player on the field. He will be missed.

Swearing is a good pickup because there is no one else.
He is similar to Ihenacho. Hopefully dub coaches can coach him up.

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They may have both been over 1000 yards, but they combined for 7 TDs. Their size was a limiting factor in the red zone.

I think we are better off overall with Doctson Pryor Reed Davis and Crowder than we were with Pierre DeSean Reed Davis and Crowder. It might take some time to get there though, we'll need Cousins to get on the same page with them quickly.

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[quote=Schneed10;1167893]They may have both been over 1000 yards, but they combined for 7 TDs. Their size was a limiting factor in the red zone.

I think we are better off overall with Doctson Pryor Reed Davis and Crowder than we were with Pierre DeSean Reed Davis and Crowder. It might take some time to get there though, we'll need Cousins to get on the same page with them quickly.[/quote]

You spelled McCoy wrong lol.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1167895]You spelled McCoy wrong lol.[/quote]

Ryan Fitzpatrick....

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[QUOTE=Alvin Walton;1167898]Ryan Fitzpatrick....[/QUOTE]
A qb with an r is available

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