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[quote=rickmmrr;1223684]Here's an interesting question. How much did Snyder's preferential treatment of RG3 play into Cousin's not wanting to be a Redskin?[/quote]

I'm not sure Snyder's treatment of RG3 had anything to do with Cousins not wanting to be a Redskin. I think it was more of Cousins not liking Bruce Allen and going somewhere to get PAID.

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My goal is to never talk about Kirk Cousins again after this comment:

[I][B]Fuck that pussy![/B][/I]

We have Haskins, and until proven otherwise, pass me the fucking kool-aid, he is going to be a baller for us.

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Cousins wanted to get paid, period

I don’t blame him either


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Cousins is a smart guy. He knows Dan and Bruce simply can not be trusted. They're both losers when it comes to having success in the NFL.

Let's just hope Dan and Bruce don't ruin this kid. My concern is Dan will act like fan boy again since it's his hand picked player. Hopefully he doesn't turn into Jason Campbell and have a new offense to learn every year. This just isn't a model organization, especially for a young QB trying to learn his way.

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[quote=MTK;1223701]Cousins wanted to get paid, period

I don’t blame him either


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Can't blame a guy for taking $27M a year.

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The way I see it, Cousins and his agent figured out how to beat the NFL system, not just the Skins management. If they tag you, just take the money and figure out the rest later. If they are stupid enough to tag you again next season (for a lot more money), just take the money and figure out the rest later. By then, your current team is into you for so much money they're screwed no matter what they do. Just don't do a long term deal with your current team that is structured in a way that allows them get any of that money back.

So yes, Matty. Cousins did just want to get paid. It was strictly business.

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[quote=metalskins;1223688]I'm not sure Snyder's treatment of RG3 had anything to do with Cousins not wanting to be a Redskin. I think it was more of Cousins not liking Bruce Allen and going somewhere to get PAID.[/quote]

I think it had alot to do with it . Snyder hand picked RGIII Shanahan in turn drafted Cousin who thought he could start somewhere else or at least have a better chance of playing ,I got the feeling he liked the Skins but all so felt like a pawn between Snyder and the HC ,glade he got paid it's still a business.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1223714]The way I see it, Cousins and his agent figured out how to beat the NFL system, not just the Skins management. If they tag you, just take the money and figure out the rest later. If they are stupid enough to tag you again next season (for a lot more money), just take the money and figure out the rest later. By then, your current team is into you for so much money they're screwed no matter what they do. Just don't do a long term deal with your current team that is structured in a way that allows them get any of that money back.

So yes, Matty. Cousins did just want to get paid. It was strictly business.[/quote]

He admitted that on his little TV Special on NFLN. He said "I wanted to be able to pick and choose where I wanted to play, and the Viks offered the best deal"

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We still discussing KC?
He plays a violent sport where his replacement and his replacements replacement had their careers ended within a couple of week.
KC worked the system and deserves a lot of credit for being a better salesman than QB.

You don't get what you are worth, you get what you negotiate.
Good luck with your future Kirk and go F... yourself!

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[quote=jamf;1223718]we still discussing kc?
He plays a violent sport where his replacement and his replacements replacement had their careers ended within a couple of week.
Kc worked the system and deserves a lot of credit for being a better salesman than qb.

You don't get what you are worth, you get what you negotiate.
[b]good luck with your future kirk and go f... Yourself![/b][/quote]

lol!

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Kirk strikes me as more of a "ME" guy than a "TEAM" guy. But in all fairness to Kirk I am coming from a weird place of wanting him to fail. So take this with a grain of salt. But fail or not he has already been paid, he already has a shit load of great "stats", (not so many wins, but great stats) so he could walk away from the game today and live like a king for the rest of his life.

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[quote=rickmmrr;1223722][B]Kirk strikes me as more of a "ME" guy than a "TEAM" guy.[/B] But in all fairness to Kirk I am coming from a weird place of wanting him to fail. So take this with a grain of salt. But fail or not he has already been paid, he already has a shit load of great "stats", (not so many wins, but great stats) so he could walk away from the game today and live like a king for the rest of his life.[/quote]

Not sure if that is true or not. It is amazing how his stats look good in the box score, but don't translate into wins. I remember after many a Redskin loss looking at Kirk's numbers compared to the opponents QB and wondering how the hell did the Redskins lose. Seriously I am glad he is gone, but definitely wasn't thrilled with getting captain check down. Alex never put up numbers except wins, but he was never going to win a Super Bowl, I don't think Cousins will either, even on a stacked team. Keeping my fingers crossed on Haskins. I hope he can be a cross between Alex and Kirk. Throws for 4,000 yards and takes care of the ball like Alex.

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Are we STILL talking about Kirk Cousins??????? Some of you need a hobby.

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[quote=MTK;1223701]Cousins wanted to get paid, period

I don’t blame him either


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Cousins wanted to get paid as though he was an elite QB. Minnesota did, and they missed the playoffs even though they were loaded with talent.

I'm glad we moved on from him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1223733]Cousins wanted to get paid as though he was an elite QB. Minnesota did, and they missed the playoffs even though they were loaded with talent.

I'm glad we moved on from him.[/quote]

Agree glad we moved on. I wasn't fond of KC. IMO came across as a sneaky guy.

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Kirk Cousins is a loser. He didn't win shit here. He didn't win shit in Minnesota. And he's never going to win shit. I'm glad he's gone. Thank God we didn't pay him like he wanted to be paid. The only think positive I can say about Kirk is that at least he's better than "Check down" Alex.

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[quote=httr198020;1223757]Kirk Cousins is a loser. He didn't win shit here. He didn't win shit in Minnesota. And he's never going to win shit. I'm glad he's gone. Thank God we didn't pay him like he wanted to be paid. The only think positive I can say about Kirk is that at least he's better than "Check down" Alex.[/quote]

Your hatred for KC is blinding your vision about Alex. Alex has taken several teams to the playoffs. His career is significantly better than KC.

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Excited to see Haskins. [/Thread]

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1223763]Your hatred for KC is blinding your vision about Alex. Alex has taken several teams to the playoffs. His career is significantly better than KC.[/quote]
I don't hate Kirk Cousins. I just see Kirk for who and what he is. He's a stat padding con artist. But at least Kirk can throw for more than 200 yards a game.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6pwC1aXoAApBJ4?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1223768][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6pwC1aXoAApBJ4?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG][/quote]

I made this one :) Was going to post Monday but couldn't get it cleared until it hit Social

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1223772]I made this one :) Was going to post Monday but couldn't get it cleared until it hit Social[/quote]

Nice job on this and Sweat!

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[quote=GridIron26;1223776]Nice job on this and Sweat![/quote]

Thanks!

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So are people legit fired up about Haskins buying a Bentley is this just some Twitter drama

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I think Haskins buying a Bentley is just a non story. Who cares? Twitter sucks

I'm focused more on rookie OTAs where he looked good. I think he exceeded expectations with throwing the ball as well as working within the team environment...ie team mate interaction, taking coaching, etc.

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[quote=MTK;1223786]So are people legit fired up about Haskins buying a Bentley is this just some Twitter drama[/quote]

How dumb is that? I saw that too. People need to get a life, he's a young kid that just made it to the NFL, let him live

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Better he buys a Bentley than a Ferrari that goes over 200 mph and 0-100 in 6 seconds.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1223786]So are people legit fired up about Haskins buying a Bentley is this just some Twitter drama[/QUOTE]I don't think fired up is the right word.

I think folks are trying to read the tea leaves and figure out the person as much as the player.

I think the biggest worry is he is too focused on his brand, which was embroidered on the seats of the Bentley.

Nobody has a clue if it is or will be a problem.

With "All in for week one" and "Merry Kirkmas" in the not so distant past it's completely fair to discuss.

Concluding at this point it is a big deal or isn't a big deal is premature.

Haskins may deserve the benefit of the doubt with fans, but with the recent history, he isn't going to get it.


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Some QBs save their money, others spend it. I know of no study that correlates spending habits to success in the NFL as a QB. It's a non story.

People liked the idea of Cousins sleeping in his in-laws' basement and driving the converted van. They liked Alfred Morris and his beat ass Datsun or whatever he was driving. Reality is more players have flashy cars than go the route of Cousins and Alfmo, but you don't hear about them because they're not quarterbacks.

Call them haters or call them uneducated idiots, just don't pay them any mind.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1223772]I made this one :) Was going to post Monday but couldn't get it cleared until it hit Social[/quote]

Nice, sorry for stealing your Thunder.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1223806]Nice, sorry for stealing your Thunder.[/quote]

Not a problem, glad it's getting out there . Makes it worth doing them lol

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1223803]Some QBs save their money, others spend it. I know of no study that correlates spending habits to success in the NFL as a QB. It's a non story.



People liked the idea of Cousins sleeping in his in-laws' basement and driving the converted van. They liked Alfred Morris and his beat ass Datsun or whatever he was driving. Reality is more players have flashy cars than go the route of Cousins and Alfmo, but you don't hear about them because they're not quarterbacks.



Call them haters or call them uneducated idiots, just don't pay them any mind.[/QUOTE]Is discussing a QB starting a personal branding company before he throws the first pass out of bounds?

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[quote=MTK;1223786]So are people legit fired up about Haskins buying a Bentley is this just [B]some Twitter drama[/B][/quote]

It would not surprise me if Chris Russell is somehow involved in spreading this drama.

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[url]https://www.redskins.com/video/wired-up-kevin-o-connell?fbclid=IwAR2zD_Ytx9oqtHQBqxu2qczN2mFyThl_ayvC9SNYif6cGj0EdMnTLKPcWvE[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1223825][url]https://www.redskins.com/video/wired-up-kevin-o-connell?fbclid=IwAR2zD_Ytx9oqtHQBqxu2qczN2mFyThl_ayvC9SNYif6cGj0EdMnTLKPcWvE[/url][/quote]

Nice video. When I heard KO talking about not throwing at #25, I immediately thought of Moreland. I didn't know his number so I looked up #25R and sure enough it was him. I'll be keeping an eye on Moreland throughout training camp.

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[quote=Schneed10;1223803]Some QBs save their money, others spend it. I know of no study that correlates spending habits to success in the NFL as a QB. It's a non story.

People liked the idea of Cousins sleeping in his in-laws' basement and driving the converted van. They liked Alfred Morris and his beat ass Datsun or whatever he was driving. Reality is more players have flashy cars than go the route of Cousins and Alfmo, but you don't hear about them because they're not quarterbacks.

Call them haters or call them uneducated idiots, just don't pay them any mind.[/quote]

Can we get a correlation between the Patriots parking lot and the Redskins parking lot? Asking for a friend lol.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1223831]Can we get a correlation between the Patriots parking lot and the Redskins parking lot? Asking for a friend lol.[/QUOTE]The TB12 system was a startup in 99.

So Haskins is on pace, relax.

[url]https://twitter.com/dh_simba7/status/1121815839081148416?s=20[/url]

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1223815]Is discussing a QB starting a personal branding company before he throws the first pass out of bounds?

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I never understood branding, and people being attracted to a name. Well before it was popular for athletes to brand items LA Gear was very popular with people who were always following the latest trends. I burned through shoes running on trails and playing pick up basketball. I tried lots of brands at the time finding New Balance and Brooks to have the best combination of comfort and durability. One time I decided to try on some LA Gear to see what the rage was about. I swear it felt like walking around with boards tied to my feet, they had no cushion at all, hard as rocks. Worse yet I remember them costing $150 when my shoes at the time were $75. I understand being attached to a brand if it represents a quality product, but not when it is expensive because of just a name.

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I don't care what he does in his own time, can we win games for us? A lot of them hopefully? That's all I want to know.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1223818]It would not surprise me if Chris Russell is somehow involved in spreading this drama.[/quote]

Pretty sure it was the junkies that had their panties in a wad over it