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“These fans are sick. They are actually hurt by how horrible this team has been,” former Redskins all-pro return man Brian Mitchell, who now hosts a talk show on The Team 980, Washington’s flagship radio station, told USA TODAY Sports. “These fans can’t wait to get back. It’s just not what they were used to in the '80s, '90s and even ‘99, when we were one win away from NFC Championship Game. But they haven’t gotten back since.”

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[quote=SunnySide;1231822]If you dont like the message, attack the messenger.

Grow up B Mitch. I think him hearing "greatest return man in Redskins history" as his radio show intro 12 times a day the past couple of years has gone to his head.

Im pretty sure that CT already has more rushing and receiving yards than B Mitch but continue to run your mouth on the radio like you have all the answers and its all so simple.

I personally dont like listening to him on the radio so Im somewhat jaded.[/quote]

He is the greatest return man in NFL history and an All Pro. He is all over the NFL record book. He never missed a game in his NFL career. CT is an often injured 3rd back. You obviously don't like B-Mitch because he is old school.

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CT is not even on the same planet as BM was as a player

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1231824]He is the greatest return man in NFL history and an All Pro. He is all over the NFL record book. He never missed a game in his NFL career. CT is an often injured 3rd back. You obviously don't like B-Mitch because he is old school.[/quote]

I dont like B Mitch (the radio guy) because of the stuff that comes out of his mouth. All he does is complain and bitch. Its all one note. I get it, there is a lot to complain about around here but over the years its grating to me.

You dont think he got petty with his last tweet for no reason? CT wasnt even direct tweeting him. Why is B Mitch even taking shots at CT?

"We were prepared all the time. Maybe you all should try it. Coaches today still do it. Whatever works should be tried point blank. You can defend what hasn’t. That’s cool. We won consistently. Can you say the same?"
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Brian Mitchell is petty. This tweet is petty. All in my opinion only. I dont like his on air personality and smugness. This tweet is a perfect example. The dudes an ass. IMO.

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B Mitch needs to simmer down, he played and practiced in a different era in terms of the CBA


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[quote=SunnySide;1231822]If you dont like the message, attack the messenger.

Grow up B Mitch. I think him hearing "greatest return man in Redskins history" as his radio show intro 12 times a day the past couple of years has gone to his head.

Im pretty sure that CT already has more rushing and receiving yards than B Mitch but continue to run your mouth on the radio like you have all the answers and its all so simple.

I personally dont like listening to him on the radio so Im somewhat jaded.[/quote]

I've been listening to B Mitch for years on the CSN DC sports channel. There are times he's a tolerable listen and other times where he isn't a good listen. He tends to come off as narrow-minded.

Many times, he believes what he say is the gospel. Regardless, if it's an opinionated topic. He also must've never heard the idiom, "There's more than one way to skin a cat."

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CT has zero to do with how the team practices or how the staff divides up practice reps. BM is being ridiculous.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1231832]CT has zero to do with how the team practices or how the staff divides up practice reps. BM is being ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I think BMitch's comments are direct shots at Jay Gruden, CT's tweets are just the vehicle to make the point that this team has been inadequately prepared every game for the past 6 years and fans are sick and disgusted

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1231834]I think BMitch's comments are direct shots at Jay Gruden, CT's tweets are just the vehicle to make the point that this team has been inadequately prepared every game for the past 6 years and fans are sick and disgusted

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This is exactly what it is, BM isn't attacking CT he's going at the staff and Bruce

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1231834]I think BMitch's comments are direct shots at Jay Gruden, CT's tweets are just the vehicle to make the point that this team has been inadequately prepared every game for the past 6 years and fans are sick and disgusted

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I agree with this.

CT tried to defend his coach and ended up getting Jay roasted.

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[quote=jamf;1231851]I agree with this.

CT tried to defend his coach and ended up getting Jay roasted.[/quote]

Will Compton agreed with CT. So did Bram Weinstein for what its worth. If you read the actual twitter thread and responses, seems like B Mitch got roasted (although I dont think anyone got roasted).

If you read Haskins quotes, he is totally on board and says all the right things.

Why is the media making it seem like back ups get 1st team reps during the week when 0 to very few teams do that? why is the media making it seem like its only the Skins and Jay Gruden that dont give 1st team reps to backups?

To gin up some drama where there is none? Now CT and the players are talking about it and Haskins is getting asked about it.

Media and B Mitch creating drama where there is none on this fake statement that backups get 1st team reps on other teams ... when all indications are they dont. backups get 2nd team reps and scout duties .. just like Haskins is getting.

Thinking about it more ... fuck B Mitch. He cant admit he is wrong so he double and triples down on it.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1231834]I think BMitch's comments are direct shots at Jay Gruden, CT's tweets are just the vehicle to make the point that this team has been inadequately prepared every game for the past 6 years and fans are sick and disgusted

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I get that, but he’s going about it the wrong way

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[QUOTE=MTK;1231860]I get that, but he’s going about it the wrong way[/QUOTE]Maybe but this team has needed to move on from Gruden for years and if BMitch and other ring of honor vets have to remind players of what winning coaches do to actually be winning coaches then so be it.

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I don’t understand what going after one of the true good guys on the team really accomplishes big picture, but ok

B Mitch is pissed off, what else is new

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1231862]Maybe but this team has needed to move on from Gruden for years and if BMitch and other ring of honor vets have to remind players of what winning coaches do to actually be winning coaches then so be it.

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My questions is ... can we get names of these successful coaches who do it that support b mitch’s Claim?

So far CT, will Compton and other unnamed skins. Players who played for other coaches say they do not. Patrick Mahomes didn’t. CT said Shannahan didn’t. Will compton said he’s never seen it and he’s played for other teams.

B Mitch needs to name some current successful coaches that do ... otherwise he is just guessing and assuming they do. B Mitch said he got reps as the 3rd and 4th string in philly but when asked if that was with 1st team reps he was silent.

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As I mentioned yesterday of the rumors before the draft..

Jay is about to be gone [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190927/30a9923cbb869a8ab3271ca730cef945.jpg[/IMG]

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I can't imagine many teams, if any, can afford to give in season reps to anyone but the starter.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1231879]I can't imagine many teams, if any, can afford to give in season reps to anyone but the starter.[/QUOTE]I think before this CBA it was very likely, and with teams that have settled starters, i would think it is possible. But clearly the Skins don't have anything settled.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1231877]As I mentioned yesterday of the rumors before the draft..

Jay is about to be gone [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190927/30a9923cbb869a8ab3271ca730cef945.jpg[/IMG]

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RG3 all over again...when will the front office let football people and coaches run the team and make player decisions? 20 years later and NOTHING has changed

I agree with Gruden. The kid needs time, development, he won’t fix anything, and throwing him in at a time like this could damage him beyond repair.


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Is anyone really surprised? As the losses mount the pressure to put in Haskins will only continue to build. Jay wants to win games he could care less about developing a rookie. Once the season is out of reach and his hand is forced that's when Jay will suddenly be all in on Haskins.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1231843]This is exactly what it is, BM isn't attacking CT he's going at the staff and Bruce[/QUOTE]



It came across as a shot at CT whether he intended it to or not. And CT isn’t someone deserving of the swipe. Loved BM as a player and respect a lot of what he says. But not this.


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The season is playing out exactly as we all knew it would.

Why bring back Gruden for another year if you’re just going to fire him after 4 games?

It would make Snyder and Allen look even dumber they already do.


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I understand that the OL is not that great. But Haskins has good legs, much better than expected. Whether we play him now or wait until next year, he will face the exact SAME ISSUES with this OL.

Think about it: next season, TW and Scherff will BE GONE. They will be replaced by Draft Picks - talented but inexperienced. We will have a NEW HC and NEW OC.

BL - there is ABSOLUTELY NO assurance that next year’s OL will be any better than this year’s one. Eventually, Haskins will need to go in and face the gun fire.

Fire Gruden after this game, bring in O’CONNELL and start Haskins against the Dolphins. I predict he will be better and more adaptable than those claiming he’s a precious piece of china and one tackle away from an ACL injury.


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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1231906]The season is playing out exactly as we all knew it would.

Why bring back Gruden for another year if you’re just going to fire him after 4 games?

It would make Snyder and Allen look even dumber they already do.


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Heck that's the best reason to think they might actually do it!

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/09/26/redskins-problems-their-nfl-worst-third-down-defense-might-be-most-glaring/[/url]

Gruden is caught off guard by how bad our 3rd down D is? I can't believe he is surprised, given Manusky is his guy, unless he truly doesn't understand defensive football. And if that is the case, he shouldn't be a HC.

Manusky's play calling on 3rd down has been dire. Against the Bears he had MLB's covering slot receivers, called way too much zone in short down situations and couldn't dial up the pass rush when we actually had the Bears in 3rd and long.

If Manusky doesn't know how to defend 3rd down, he shouldn't be in the job. And if Gruden can't see that, he shouldn't either. The players are taking the flak for bad play calling and if everyone can see that then surely Snyder and Allen must too?

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[quote=MTK;1231892]Is anyone really surprised? As the losses mount the pressure to put in Haskins will only continue to build. Jay wants to win games he could care less about developing a rookie. Once the season is out of reach and his hand is forced that's when Jay will suddenly be all in on Haskins.[/quote]

Yesterday they were talking about a fan poll on 980 am. At the time it was 52% Haskins, 35% Keenum, 13% McCoy, for preferred starting QB. The shocker to me is Colt polling even that high.

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I wonder if you had traded Bill Belichick for Jay Gruden 6 years ago how much would that have changed the teams records? I don't think it would have flipped them but I would imagine Gruden could have turned the 12 win on average Patriots into a 9-10 average win team and Belichick squeezed 9-10 wins out of the Redskins instead of 7. Pretty sure with Bill we wouldn't have players mouthing off constantly and the guys who couldn't stay on the field would not last long.

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I just don't see Gruden getting fired. There isn't anyone on this staff that can really take over, plus I do remember Snyder saying that firing a coach mid season was a terrible mistake that he made. Just don't see it. People are asking for O'Connell. Why? What has he done? He's never even called a game before, none the less be a head coach.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1231965]I wonder if you had traded Bill Belichick for Jay Gruden 6 years ago how much would that have changed the teams records? I don't think it would have flipped them but I would imagine Gruden could have turned the 12 win on average Patriots into a 9-10 average win team and Belichick squeezed 9-10 wins out of the Redskins instead of 7. Pretty sure with Bill we wouldn't have players mouthing off constantly and the guys who couldn't stay on the field would not last long.[/quote]

Doesn’t Bill have personnel decisions in Boston? Here he would have BA choosing players and keeping them regardless of if they were a problem

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1231991]Doesn’t Bill have personnel decisions in Boston? Here he would have BA choosing players and keeping them regardless of if they were a problem[/quote]

Yes Bill has personnel decisions in New England that is why I would not project him to be a 12 game winner in DC. Regardless, in spite of the front office ineptness I think Bill would squeeze out 2-3 more wins a year here than Jay.

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The Fox crew was talking about it today, the jist of it was Gruden will probably be the scapegoat but he's not the problem, the problem is Allen. According to them Snyder believes we had a great draft this year and since we have plenty of talent the problem is Gruden.

I swear to Christ if that is anything close to accurate and Bruce somehow keeps his job...

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Bruce is basically Snyders 3rd arm. He isn't going anywhere.

Its getting to the point where I'm actively going to root against the team. Snyder and Bruce don't deserve anything but being the bottom feeders they are.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1231993]Yes Bill has personnel decisions in New England that is why I would not project him to be a 12 game winner in DC. Regardless, in spite of the front office ineptness I think Bill would squeeze out 2-3 more wins a year here than Jay.[/quote]

2-3 per a year seems a bit much with the shit talent we have at DC and the field. Maybe that year with garçon and djax

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When I hear this announcing crew sweet talking Ryan Connelly it makes me ponder how he got into that position vs. our own Cole Holcomb.

We did a fantastic job of sweet talking Holcomb this offseason, but he's been beaten like a red-headed stepchild all season. Whereas Connelly stepped in as a backup this week and had a fantastic game up to when he got injured. Both are late round rookie middle linebackers, but Connelly was playing fantastic and Holcomb has been the opposite. So what's the difference? Coaching is the first thing that comes to mind. It's another strike against Manusky and Gruden for hiring Manusky.

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The answer to this thread should be "about 5 more minutes"

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1232231]The answer to this thread should be "about 5 more minutes"[/quote]

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Where’s everyone who called for Haskins?????? Yeah, how’d that work out.


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1232273]Where’s everyone who called for Haskins?????? Yeah, how’d that work out.


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watch what happens after a week of preparation with a new coach.
it will work out just fine

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[QUOTE=Indian-brave;1232276]watch what happens after a week of preparation with a new coach.

it will work out just fine[/QUOTE]



I’m sure it will. My point was, Haskins won’t fix anything and Keenum isn’t the problem. The problems with this team run many, very deep, and go back 20 years


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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1232273]Where’s everyone who called for Haskins?????? Yeah, how’d that work out.


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Haskins had no reps this season. He was started in the middle of a game. No one, including myself, said he was going to light the team on fire. To give him the best chance to succeed:

1. Replace Gruden & Manusky
2. Give Haskins all the reps in full preparation for the Patriots.
3. Bring McLaurin and Scherff back.

Then we’ll see Haskins get some experience and have some good and bad moments.

Other teams have played their QB in their rookie season. Like the Giants today or the Eagles with Wentz a few seasons ago.

In fact, it time for the new HC to try all all the young and rookie players, especially in positions where we know the FA veteran is leaving next season. We need to see who has a future on this franchise and who doesn’t.




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