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[quote=mooby;1236075]That would mean hiring the NFL's best and brightest to come here and work for Dan Snyder.

I have better odds that Bruce Allen wins exec. of the year before that happening.[/quote]

I could swear NBC channel 4 in DC said Haskins is starting Sunday, if I'm wrong I apologize.

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Haskins did ok in the Uber-conservative play calling. I understand not wanting to get Haskins any INT this game after the last two disasters. But let him try for something longer occasionally to build confidence, open up the defense and score a real TD.

Finally, stop talking about Keenum starting again. It’s over for him - there is absolutely ZERO benefit to Case or Colt playing the rest of the season. We need to see what Haskins has by the end of this season. Then we need to be aggressive in FA, get rid of all the FA DEAD wood -Richardson, Moses, Norman, Davis , definitely maybe even Kerrigan. Trade any of them for draft picks.

Build from the draft and FA - with the 3rd pick in the draft they need to superstar player. I hope it is Chase Young - a monster edge player will make our pass rush fierce!!!!


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At least we saw some over all improvement. His footwork was improved, but I did catch him throwing a screen pass side armed off his back foot while leaning backward. I was like "what the hell was that?." There wasn't a defender within a country mile of him and no one near the receiver.

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He avoided mistakes well but made no plays. I'm not sure what I would have expected from even Cousins with this surrounding cast playing against that defense.

The only thing I could really hold against Haskins in this start was holding the ball too long in spots. He needed to throw it away instead of taking a few sacks.

It's not a small thing though, throwing those balls away maybe helps sustain a few drives instead of taking drive-killing sacks.

Still, his command looked better.

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[quote=Schneed10;1236382]He avoided mistakes well but made no plays. I'm not sure what I would have expected from even Cousins with this surrounding cast playing against that defense.

[B]The only thing I could really hold against Haskins in this start was holding the ball too long in spots. He needed to throw it away instead of taking a few sacks.[/B]

It's not a small thing though, throwing those balls away maybe helps sustain a few drives instead of taking drive-killing sacks.

Still, his command looked better.[/quote]

I agree, specifically one play where he got rocked when he had time to throw it away, I think he was holding on it to make a play when no play was there, but I agree with your assessment 100%.

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That wheel route-ish to P Rich in the endzone against tight coverage was perfect. Its ashamed P Rich couldn't haul it in, just got one hand on it.

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He played "OK" but what I don't like is all of the talk about how he stepped up his game prep this week. He should have been doing all of this while he was sitting on the bench and learning the play book.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1236392]He played "OK" but what I don't like is all of the talk about how he stepped up his game prep this week. He should have been doing all of this while he was sitting on the bench and learning the play book.[/quote]

He's 21 or 22 years old and hasn't fully matured obviously.

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Hopefully the we can see some progression of pushing the ball downfield.

I think we need to temper expectation of having Haskins just come and ball. Look at the supporting cast: P Rich and Terry are really your ONLY proven pass catchers. They have NOTHING at TE, they have an extremely slow Slot WR, and AP is not a natural pass catcher out the back field. CT injured. Harmon and Sims both play like rookies.

We are really limited with weapons

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[quote=Chico23231;1236409]Hopefully the we can see some progression of pushing the ball downfield.

I think we need to temper expectation of having Haskins just come and ball. Look at the supporting cast: P Rich and Terry are really your ONLY proven pass catchers. They have NOTHING at TE, they have an extremely slow Slot WR, and AP is not a natural pass catcher out the back field. CT injured. Harmon and Sims both play like rookies.

We are really limited with weapons[/quote]

Even with Terry being our best receiver at this point, he's still a rookie too and it's important to remember that. Just because he's our most steady and reliable option doesn't mean he will be perfect from here on out.

I pretty much agree with everything else you said. Sprinkle is the literal definition of a JAG. The continued absence of Reed and Davis is a big fat F on the front office for failing to adequately prepare. Richardson will never succeed as long as they have him running <10 yard routes every game.

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Callahan needs to name Haskins the starter

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The kid looked better,let him play and learn.

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[quote=Schneed10;1236382]Still, his command looked better.[/quote]

He looked better than everyone expected, which is something.

I have no idea why he hasn't been playing.

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I don’t know why anyone is surprised he looked better?

Golly gee Jay smoking 🚬 spliffs in Georgetown never prepared Haskins to play because he didn’t want him in the first place.

Of course Haskins looked better when he actually gets to practice with his game day teammates and gets coached.

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I don't know what all the hesitation and hand wringing was about with Haskins. He should have been starting weeks ago. It's just hilarious that a 1-8 team is seemingly unwilling to admit the season is over and it's time to start evaluating for next year. The fact Callahan won't commit publically to Haskins is frustrating beyond belief.

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[quote=MTK;1236470]I don't know what all the hesitation and hand wringing was about with Haskins. He should have been starting weeks ago. It's just hilarious that a 1-8 team is seemingly unwilling to admit the season is over and it's time to start evaluating for next year. The fact Callahan won't commit publically to Haskins is frustrating beyond belief.[/quote]

I agree with you 100%. Haskins should have been playing weeks ago. I think a lot of this slow playing of Haskins is a reaction by the organization to the perceived "rushing" of RG3 to starting QB and subsequent injuries. They want to appear like they learned their lesson from RG3 and wont make the same mistake of rushing Haskins when he may not be ready.

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[quote=MTK;1236470]I don't know what all the hesitation and hand wringing was about with Haskins. He should have been starting weeks ago. It's just hilarious that a 1-8 team is seemingly unwilling to admit the season is over and it's time to start evaluating for next year. The fact Callahan won't commit publically to Haskins is frustrating beyond belief.[/quote]

I don't understand it at all as well.. I hope Haskins will be able to shake off this year and start fresh with a new coach next year. I can imagine how things would look bleak for a 22 years old guy who thought he achieved a dream by playing in NFL, only to realize that your coaches have little to no faith in you.

Snyder strikes again.. At least that's something we can always count on.

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[quote=irish;1236471]I agree with you 100%. Haskins should have been playing weeks ago. I think a lot of this slow playing of Haskins is a reaction by the organization to the perceived "rushing" of RG3 to starting QB and subsequent injuries. They want to appear like they learned their lesson from RG3 and wont make the same mistake of rushing Haskins when he may not be ready.[/quote]

Actually I think Shanahans did right by RG3 - Mike and Kyle tailored the offense to RG3's strengths. The big issue was Snyder fell in love with RG3 and then allowed RG3 to develop a big ego, big enough to believe that he can override Mike's decisions.. Meanwhile, Haskins have coaches who think Haskins still have long ways to go and will not tailor the offense to Haskins's strengths.

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The only reason they don't commit to Haskins has to be this completely ridiculous belief the team is "close" and still can make a run with a more experienced QB at the helm.

The awareness by the org is amazingly poor...Snyder really needs to seek some outside help to advise him. I fucking cant believe after 20 years he has these same blind spots which appear to be getting bigger.

WTF man...look around the league, look around at the coverage of the team, look around at your half empty stadium. wake up

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1236474]The only reason they don't commit to Haskins has to be this completely ridiculous belief the team is "close" and still can make a run with a more experienced QB at the helm.



The awareness by the org is amazingly poor...Snyder really needs to seek some outside help to advise him. I fucking cant believe after 20 years he has these same blind spots which appear to be getting bigger.



WTF man...look around the league, look around at the coverage of the team, look around at your half empty stadium. wake up[/QUOTE]He is too busy counting his money

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[quote=GridIron26;1236475]He is too busy counting his money[/quote]

2.6 billion according to Forbes. Ok Dan counted it for you. Now fire Bruce.

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[quote=GridIron26;1236473]Actually I think Shanahans did right by RG3 - Mike and Kyle tailored the offense to RG3's strengths. The big issue was Snyder fell in love with RG3 and then allowed RG3 to develop a big ego, big enough to believe that he can override Mike's decisions.. Meanwhile, Haskins have coaches who think Haskins still have long ways to go and will not tailor the offense to Haskins's strengths.[/quote]

Agree. Had RG3 and Snyder let Shanny continue to do what he was doing with RG3 I think he'd have become the super star he looked like he could be.

IMO the coaches are being told how to handle Haskins. More meddling from above but this time instead of moving quickly they are moving too slowly.

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[quote=Chico23231;1236474]The only reason they don't commit to Haskins has to be this completely ridiculous belief the team is "close" and still can make a run with a more experienced QB at the helm.

The awareness by the org is amazingly poor...Snyder really needs to seek some outside help to advise him. I fucking cant believe after 20 years he has these same blind spots which appear to be getting bigger.

WTF man...look around the league, look around at the coverage of the team, look around at your half empty stadium. wake up[/quote]

There is an alternative option, and that's Callahan wants to keep the Jets guessing as to who is going to start in two weeks.

They'll probably prep for Haskins anyways just because.

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[quote=Chico23231;1236474]The only reason they don't commit to Haskins has to be this completely ridiculous belief the team is "close" and still can make a run with a more experienced QB at the helm.

The awareness by the org is amazingly poor...Snyder really needs to seek some outside help to advise him. I fucking cant believe after 20 years he has these same blind spots which appear to be getting bigger.

WTF man...look around the league, look around at the coverage of the team, look around at your half empty stadium. wake up[/quote]

every skins fan I talked to sunday said the same thing we say on here.

Fuck Dan and Bruce and Fedex is a dump

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Callahan says he was upset with where his Redskins team was mentally in the Bills game
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[B]Bill Callahan having an extra Redskins practice on Wednesday of the bye week[/B] that Jay Gruden hadn’t done in the past. “We need to work.”
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Callahan wants to be clear he’s just going to take his time on the QB decision. Expects to name starter next Monday.
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No decision about Redskins starting QB going forward. Callahan says he will take his time and announce it after the bye week
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Extra practice on the bye week? Sure, why not. Can you even have an extra practice in today's NFL? Teams are supposed to be limited to 14 total padded practices for the entire regular season, with 11 coming in the first 11 weeks. (2011 rules)

So we are doing extra stretches, walk throughs and non contact non pad practices ... cool.

is Case still in protocol? I hope Haskins is getting the lions share of reps.

[url]https://www.ajc.com/sports/football/look-nfl-new-practice-rules/ZLKiNsjADuSDy8uHzsvYoN/[/url]

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So close

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[quote=Chico23231;1236484]So close[/quote]

I kinda thought maybe the "were close" thing has been over blown by the fan base. Sure Bruce said it in his once every 5 years 12 min press conference but I didnt appreciate just how much "were close" truly seems to be a FO belief until I heard Callahans presser the other day and he just kept laying it on, they were hanging with really good teams and just have to find a way to close out.

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[quote=SunnySide;1236488]I kinda thought maybe the "were close" thing has been over blown by the fan base. Sure Bruce said it in his once every 5 years 12 min press conference but I didnt appreciate just how much "were close" truly seems to be a FO belief until I heard Callahans presser the other day and he just kept laying it on, they were hanging with really good teams and just have to find a way to close out.[/quote]

Clearly they aren't coaching the same games we're watching.

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[quote=mooby;1236479]There is an alternative option, and that's Callahan wants to keep the Jets guessing as to who is going to start in two weeks.

They'll probably prep for Haskins anyways just because.[/quote]

That's valid argument...

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[quote=SunnySide;1236488]I kinda thought maybe the "were close" thing has been over blown by the fan base. Sure Bruce said it in his once every 5 years 12 min press conference but I didnt appreciate just how much "were close" truly seems to be a FO belief until I heard Callahans presser the other day and he just kept laying it on, they were hanging with really good teams and just have to find a way to close out.[/quote]

No they are really not though...they haven't scored a TD in 3 games. Just because Callahan is purposely shorten games, doesn't mean we are close.

San Fran woulda killed us if it wasn't for rain...we got shut out there (I believe)

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[quote=Chico23231;1236491]No they are really not though...they haven't scored a TD in 3 games. Just because Callahan is purposely shorten games, doesn't mean we are close.

San Fran woulda killed us if it wasn't for rain...we got shut out there (I believe)[/quote]

I'm with you on this.
If AP wasn't on the team, they might not get 100 total yards a game.

The lack of play action or any creativity shows you that they are just trying to learn to tie their own shoes right now.

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We're actually really close, and the culture around here is damn good. Truly the best it's ever been.

It's the fans who are out of touch.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1236494]We're actually really close, and the culture around here is damn good. Truly the best it's ever been.



It's the fans who are out of touch.[/QUOTE]And our stadium would be filled if our fans werent money hungry ticket scalpers.

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At this point, I don't hate on anyone for selling their tickets. This team is the worst I've seen in my 38 years (at least that I can remember). It's also shocking considering how much defensive talent we have.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1236501]At this point, I don't hate on anyone for selling their tickets. This team is the worst I've seen in my 38 years (at least that I can remember). It's also shocking considering how much defensive talent we have.[/quote]

How about Preston smith leaving to play for a real coaching staff and having an all pro season? That has been a square kick to my balls. It makes me loathe manusky

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1236495]And our stadium would be filled if our fans werent money hungry ticket scalpers.

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Tickets are being sold for less than face value on the secondary markets.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1236503]Tickets are being sold for less than face value on the secondary markets.[/QUOTE]I was referencing BAs press conference

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[quote=Chico23231;1236502]How about Preston smith leaving to play for a real coaching staff and having an [B]all pro season[/B]? That has been a square kick to my balls. It makes me loathe manusky[/quote]

Has he though? He has 8 sacks with 4.5 coming in the first 3 games (3 in week 3 vs denver). 70.6 PFF grade.

Is he worth 4yr/52M? GB can get out of the contract in 2021 but they would have committed 27.5M for 2 years (this includes 8M in dead cap).

I have watched like 3 GB games and I saw the Denver game and he was disruptive .. other games he was not.

Certainly compared to Kerrigan (3 sacks, 56.7 PFF, cap hit of 11M), Id rather pay Preston but that ship has sailed ... should have traded Kerrigan and resigned Preston ... or trade Kerrigan and let Preston walk. Preston is like a B player for me, above average but has to be right player, right price imo.

I think signing Landon Collins negated Preston's 3R comp pick to us?

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[quote=Chico23231;1236502]How about Preston smith leaving to play for a real coaching staff and having an all pro season? That has been a square kick to my balls. It makes me loathe manusky[/quote]

Manusky fuckin sucks.

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[QUOTE=Meks;1236510]Manusky fuckin sucks.[/QUOTE]



Don’t insult people who suck. He fuckin blows!