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Does Stafford have a no trade clause? If not, his wants aren't very important to where he gets traded. Unless he specifically says he ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT want to be traded to WFT, we have just as good as a chance as anyone else.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1276016]Does Stafford have a no trade clause? If not, his wants aren't very important to where he gets traded. Unless he specifically says he ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT want to be traded to WFT, we have just as good as a chance as anyone else.[/quote]

He doesn’t, but do you want to take a chance that he doesn’t resign? (his contract is up in two years I believe)....it is widely assumed that a contract extension will be part of the trade. That won’t happen if he’s traded to a team he really doesn’t want to go to.

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[quote=GridIron26;1275976]It's starting to look like WFT isn't an option for Stafford[/quote]

Per @MikeGarafolo Jimmy Garapolo is reportedly staying with the 49ers.

WFT
Colts
Rams
In. That. Order.

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1276017]He doesn’t, but do you want to take a chance that he doesn’t resign? (his contract is up in two years I believe)....it is widely assumed that a contract extension will be part of the trade. That won’t happen if he’s traded to a team he really doesn’t want to go to.[/quote]

We are improving, have McLaurin and cap space. Don't see any reason why Stafford wouldn't want to play here long term. I'd still trade for him for 2 years. But the team can have those conversations before any trade. A contract extension is not a deal breaker imo.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1276019]We are improving, have McLaurin and cap space. Don't see any reason why Stafford wouldn't want to play here long term. I'd still trade for him for 2 years. But the team can have those conversations before any trade. [B]A contract extension is not a deal breaker imo.[/B][/quote]

Oh for me it is. For what it will cost to land him, I'm not willing for it to be a 2 year rental. At least a four year deal has to be a part of the team/player negotiations.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1276019]We are improving, have McLaurin and cap space. Don't see any reason why Stafford wouldn't want to play here long term. I'd still trade for him for 2 years. But the team can have those conversations before any trade. A contract extension is not a deal breaker imo.[/quote]

I hear what you’re saying, but I’d have a hard time trading anything of value for a two year rental. He should want to come here because we will actually build around him and already have a better D than he ever had in Detroit. But who knows?

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1276022]I hear what you’re saying, but I’d have a hard time trading anything of value for a two year rental. He should want to come here because we will actually build around him and already have a better D than he ever had in Detroit. But who knows?[/quote]

And a better run game.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1276019]We are improving, have McLaurin and cap space. Don't see any reason why Stafford wouldn't want to play here long term. I'd still trade for him for 2 years. But the team can have those conversations before any trade. A contract extension is not a deal breaker imo.[/QUOTE]It is not uncommon for a team to want assurances for the ability to extend a player when working out a trade.

Regardless of whether we sign him or not I am impressed at the lack of "sources" about the WFT intentions. It is frustrating as a fan to not know, but it is definitely a more professional feel.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276024]It is not uncommon for a team to want assurances for the ability to extend a player when working out a trade.

Regardless of whether we sign him or not I am impressed at the lack of "sources" about the WFT intentions. It is frustrating as a fan to not know, but it is definitely a more professional feel.

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You know all those times the last two decades our fans channeled Pinocchio and said, “we’re going to be a real franchise one day”! That day has come. We have coaches and front office staffers with football minded knowledge, integrity, and work ethic. And it’s rubbing off on our players and their performance. Not a bunch of 🤡s running a circus.

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Per Josina Anderson

Text from league source on the #Lions trade talks for QB Matthew Stafford: "I’m sure they'll get a trade, but right now they're looking for a sucker to overpay."

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1355585954627678209[/url]

The Lions are looking to hoodwink a team.

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[quote=PorkSkins;1276041]Per Josina Anderson

Text from league source on the #Lions trade talks for QB Matthew Stafford: "I’m sure they'll get a trade, but right now they're looking for a sucker to overpay."

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1355585954627678209[/url]

The Lions are looking to hoodwink a team.[/quote]

No link but I heard it’s Stafford to LA for two 1’s a 3rd AND Goff.

EDIT

Link:[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1355712045006655490?s=21[/url]

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[QUOTE=PorkSkins;1276041]Per Josina Anderson



Text from league source on the #Lions trade talks for QB Matthew Stafford: "I’m sure they'll get a trade, but right now they're looking for a sucker to overpay."



[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1355585954627678209[/url]



The Lions are looking to hoodwink a team.[/QUOTE] Old Skins - DS gas up Redskins One. Overpay. Make golden child

New WFT (hopefully) - offer fair value trade. Keep name in hat. Win some lose some. Build team structure with players who want to be play their role and excel




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Lions trade Stafford to Rams per NFLN

Goff
2 First and a 3rd

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1276044]Lions trade Stafford to Rams per NFLN



Goff

2 First and a 3rd[/QUOTE]I am ok not matching that.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276045]I am ok not matching that.

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Yeah. As badly as I wanted Stafford that is pretty steep.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276045]I am ok not matching that.

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Agree.

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[QUOTE=sevier2;1276046]Yeah. As badly as I wanted Stafford that is pretty steep.[/QUOTE]It is weird because I was open to a lot of trade packages but seeing it as an actual deal makes me say "Woah that's too much"

I think a starter in Goff plus 2 1st's is like 3 1st's. Crazy what a qb costs.

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Watson will command 3 First and multiple other picks..

We ain't doing that

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Here you go:

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/detroit-lions-trade-matthew-stafford-to-los-angeles-rams-for-two-first-round-picks-jared-goff/?fbclid=IwAR2E5aAUh5KHWS1_MKB09dpH_R_ajUruxCDhei894Lt6pPQ1P2j4IUReKtE[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1276048]It is weird because I was open to a lot of trade packages but seeing it as an actual deal makes me say "Woah that's too much"

I think a starter in Goff plus 2 1st's is like 3 1st's. Crazy what a qb costs.

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Imagine what it may take to garner Watson's services....... It'll probably take 3 first round picks and either a player or future 3rd rounder. I don't want any part of that sort of trade or something similar along those lines.

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Yeah glad we didn’t get into that bidding war. Goff and 2 1st plus some is In. sane. I guess McVey trying to shed that contract thinks he’s going to the super bowl tomorrow.

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Fuck it, I was worried about his back.

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Damn. I'll respect the Rams for that. Clear upgrade over Goff.

Already a playoff team, now bona-fide Super Bowl contenders.

McVay and Co. pushing all their chips to the center.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1276055]Yeah glad we didn’t get into that bidding war. Goff and 2 1st plus some is In. sane. I guess McVey trying to shed that contract [B]thinks he’s going to the super bowl tomorrow.[/B][/quote]

It is insane, but it also does make them instant SB contenders next year.

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The Rams really don't seem to value draft picks. 2 first rouders, a 3rd and Goff for Stafford. No way.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1276067]The Rams really don't seem to value draft picks. 2 first rouders, a 3rd and Goff for Stafford. No way.[/quote]

I would have have tapped out at a 1st, 3rd and Goff. Think about how Goff must feel. For what they gave away to get Stafford, they must think of his worth as a moldy ham sandwich.

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If the Rams gave the equivalent to what I would expect for Deshaun Watson. if Watson traded, is going to take 4 #1 plus more. Ridiculous!!

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And we got a 3rd and 5th for 31 YO TW?

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Looks like the Rams gave Detroit one 1st rounder for Stafford and another 1st rounder to get rid of Goff and his contract.

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This shit is getting crazy, Goff isn't even a terrible quarterback. At worst he's average.

Also somebody needs to change the thread title, Stafford ain't available no more.

I'm guessing after Watson gets traded for somebody's next 5 first round picks Ron is going to settle for some other team's retreads. There is no player in the league worth potentially setting your team back multiple seasons.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1276052]Here you go:

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/detroit-lions-trade-matthew-stafford-to-los-angeles-rams-for-two-first-round-picks-jared-goff/?fbclid=IwAR2E5aAUh5KHWS1_MKB09dpH_R_ajUruxCDhei894Lt6pPQ1P2j4IUReKtE[/url][/quote]

Absolutely ridiculous by the Rams. 2 first round picks, 3rd and Goff? Literally an offer they couldn’t refuse.

I woulda sent this years first and next second...maybe sweetener later with this years 4th. But this is a wild overpay.

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People need to realize that one of those first rounders was compensation for Detroit to take on Goff and his contract.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1276069]I would have have tapped out at a 1st, 3rd and Goff. Think about how Goff must feel. For what they gave away to get Stafford, they must think of his worth as a moldy ham sandwich.[/quote]

yep, McVay just totally soured on Goff like no ones business.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1276083]People need to realize that one of those first rounders was compensation for Detroit to take on Goff and his contract.[/quote]

Good call. McVay's star is losing some luster when he's making moves like this. Still, I admire his confidence in building a team without first round picks. He's not lacking in confidence.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1276083]People need to realize that one of those first rounders was compensation for Detroit to take on Goff and his contract.[/quote]

either way it is a bad trade.

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Again, Stafford is not worth 2 first rounders.[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/7e93538a6669cac4031697eaa6db2744.jpg[/IMG]

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Holy hell is that awful for the Rams.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1276088]either way it is a bad trade.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying it is a good trade. Just that everyone seems to think Stafford is worth two first rounders. He's not.

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A short term win now trade. The only team out west with a defense and a QB are the Rams

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Rams are going all in. Lions got a great haul. I'd favor the Lions if only 1 choice. But Rams are now possibly the best team in the NFL going into next year. That Goff contract was an anchor.

My dad is a Rams fan, he is no expert, but he was right about Goff: His contract is way above his talent pay grade.