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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1307183]Yeah, that's what I do. It says there are 76 icons. Quite a few are for the same teams.

For example, I don't see a Jets, Lions, Dolphins, Jaguars, Patriots, Saints, Steelers, Seahawks, or Raiders avatar.

I'm not saying they aren't there, they just don't appear when I look on my phone. I'll try looking from a computer later.[/quote]

I'll look into it

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1307194]As a Vet myself I can't be mad at your feelings towards this but just be mindful of others on here. I've lost men and women that served with me. This is a VERY SENSITVE subject to many.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that this was done to them, truly. I have nothing but respect for the courage and sacrifice of the individuals. I mean no disrespect to their sacrifice, just to the bastards that sent them to die with honor and courage. Hail!

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[quote=willh;1307198]i'm sorry that this was done to them, truly. I have nothing but respect for the courage and sacrifice of the individuals. I mean no disrespect to their sacrifice, just to the bastards that sent them to die with honor and courage. Hail!

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hail!

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[quote=MTK;1307196]I'm just trying to think from the team's perspective and why they would want to avoid putting red in the name again. I think they want to start fresh and not give anyone the chance to misconstrue the name again. They're keeping the colors, so that's the tie to the past. The use and meaning of words change over time, what's harmless today might not be down the road. Redtails sounds harmless enough today, who knows down the line. I know it sounds crazy but I'd guarantee that's part of their thinking.[/quote]

Some of us, well probably only myself it seems, are not as sanguine. ;)

You may be right about their thinking, but it seems to me that people need to start behaving like adults again. Were someone to state that Redhawks or even Redtails of all things was racist, then that would be time for Snyder or anyone else [I]including you and I[/I] to stand up and tell the malcontent to grow up and cease the delusional thinking.

I am warming to the idea of Red Scare, because these last few years have an eerie similarity.

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[quote=mredskins;1307158]I don't mind Warthogs I prefer it not be Hogs.

As much as i loved the Gibbs era i am just over it; time to move on from it.

Redtails is not bad, i can deal with that.[/quote]

I like warthogs. It is unique has ties to the Redskins for those that need that and I like the connection to the rugby team that was in DC.

Redtails not bad either.

I would also embrace something so brazingly stupid that is makes me to an Old School Yes!

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/ZlZfg__m9qEAAAAM/yes-oldschool.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1307202]I like warthogs. It is unique has ties to the Redskins for those that need that and I like the connection to the rugby team that was in DC.

Redtails not bad either.

I would also embrace something so brazingly stupid that is makes me to an Old School Yes!

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/ZlZfg__m9qEAAAAM/yes-oldschool.gif[/IMG][/quote]

I actually like Redtails as I have huge respect for the Tuskegee Airmen-I intentionally took my son to an event to meet one of them because I wanted him to see the embodiment of service, courage, and unselfishness, especially under extreme conditions.

I just fear that when we are bad- and history shows we pretty much always will be- then other fans are going to use it against us.

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Everyone knows that "Redtails" is a reference to the Tuskegee Airmen and not an actual bird right? I've seen some comments to that effect in this thread.

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[quote=MTK;1307172]Don't we have enough birds in the league anyway? Also I think they want to stay away from anything that could be possibly misconstrued as racist, now or in the future. So that means no to any colors in the name.[/quote]

Is that possible in today's world? The OK sigh is now construed as racist so I imagine nothing can't be at some point.

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[quote=nonniey;1307211]Is that possible in today's world? The OK sigh is now construed as racist so I imagine nothing can't be at some point.[/quote]

I don't think the OK sign is construed as racist. I think it was appropriated by racists IMO there is a difference. That being said if a team logo started showing up as the gear of choice by hate groups then I would suspect some type of change by that team. (note that is not the case with the Redskins)

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keep the politics out of here please

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Your right sorry SS and all

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Idk about you guys but I saw some [URL="https://vintonmessenger.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/07/Redtails.jpg"]birds[/URL] with red tails the other day and I thought they looked cool. Would be pretty sweet to have that as a team name.

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I hate saying Warthogs out loud.

The T screws it up and warts are gross.
[IMG]https://www.allyson-skin.care/images/common-warts.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Summo;1307208]Everyone knows that "Redtails" is a reference to the Tuskegee Airmen and not an actual bird right? I've seen some comments to that effect in this thread.[/quote]

Someone else suggested Redhawks which is what I thought we were talking about

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[quote=nonniey;1307211]Is that possible in today's world? The OK sigh is now construed as racist so I imagine nothing can't be at some point.[/quote]

Now we're really going down the rabbit hole

I think they just want to avoid any possible connotation to skin color, that's all

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[quote=MTK;1307220]Someone else suggested Redhawks which is what I thought we were talking about[/quote]

I know you know but I seen others confusing the two, or me for that matter ;)

Also does anyone really think NFL properties would approve "Redhawks" when they already have a "Seahawks"?

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[quote=Summo;1307222]I know you know but I seen others confusing the two, or me for that matter ;)

Also does anyone really think NFL properties would approve "Redhawks" when they already have a "Seahawks"?[/quote]

Probably not, but the main reason is the name is already in use by [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redhawks"]several other teams[/URL]

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[quote=Summo;1307222]I know you know but I seen others confusing the two, or me for that matter ;)

Also does anyone really think NFL properties would approve "Redhawks" when they already have a "Seahawks"?[/quote]

Hmmm.... Let's see. Red, Sea, Red, Sea, Sea, Red, Red & Sea, Redhawks, Seahawks.....

Yea I am completely befuddled. They are like mirror images of one another. Worse than There and Their. :confused?:

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[quote=JackLord;1307225]Hmmm.... Let's see. Red, Sea, Red, Sea, Sea, Red, Red & Sea, Redhawks, Seahawks.....

Yea I am completely befuddled. They are like mirror images of one another. Worse than There and Their. :confused?:[/quote]

It's about branding and individual team identity to sell merch which is why it wouldn't work.

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[quote=MTK;1307224]Probably not, but the main reason is the name is already in use by [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redhawks"]several other teams[/URL][/quote]

Many also use Rams, Eagles, Jets, and Cardinals. A lot used Redskins. Several still do.

And if you watch next Monday's championship, you might note that the Georgia Bulldog "G" bears a striking resemblance to that in use by Green Bay.


A friend of mine is fond of saying, If you think of it, it's been done. :cool:

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[quote=Summo;1307227]It's about branding and individual team identity to sell merch which is why it wouldn't work.[/quote]

Nonsense. It would work brilliantly.

We already have logos which would work- the Lombardi logo and the scripted R made famous by Joe Gibbs.

And I have no doubt that someone artistically talented, perhaps you, could come up with some new stuff to with it.

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[quote=JackLord;1307228]Many also use Rams, Eagles, Jets, and Cardinals. A lot used Redskins. Several still do.

And if you watch next Monday's championship, you might note that the Georgia Bulldog "G" bears a striking resemblance to that in use by Green Bay.


A friend of mine is fond of saying, If you think of it, it's been done. :cool:[/quote]

If you look it up the Bulldogs G has been approved by Greenbay for them to use.

Also highschool teams around the country have also been allowed to use NFL logos and names for some time now with the NFL's blessing.

Now you Know. :D

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Is it 2.2 yet? Seriously looking forward to getting this over with.

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[quote=Summo;1307230]If you look it up the Bulldogs G has been approved by Greenbay for them to use.

Also highschool teams around the country have also been allowed to use NFL logos and names for some time now with the NFL's blessing.

Now you Know. :D[/quote]

That is great that Green Bay did that. It doesn't always work that way though.

The high school my wife went to in Kansas - Chapman High School - was apparently using Notre Dame's leprechaun as their high school mascot. If it wasn't identical, it was close enough I guess. Anyway, after their town was basically half-wiped out in 2008 by a F5 tornado, the news coverage they received brought attention to the town and the high school. With that, Notre Dame discovered that Chapman High School called themselves The Fighting Irish and were using the leprechaun mascot. Instead of somehow allowing them to keep their mascot, Notre Dame chose instead to require the school to change their logo. So now they have a new logo, and they are the Chapman Irish instead of The Fighting Irish...

Petty... and another reason for me to despise Notre Dame.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1307233]That is great that Green Bay did that. It doesn't always work that way though.

The high school my wife went to in Kansas - Chapman High School - was apparently using Notre Dame's leprechaun as their high school mascot. If it wasn't identical, it was close enough I guess. Anyway, after their town was basically half-wiped out in 2008 by a F5 tornado, the news coverage they received brought attention to the town and the high school. With that, Notre Dame discovered that Chapman High School called themselves The Fighting Irish and were using the leprechaun mascot. Instead of somehow allowing them to keep their mascot, Notre Dame chose instead to require the school to change their logo. So now they have a new logo, and they are the Chapman Irish instead of The Fighting Irish...

Petty... and another reason for me to despise Notre Dame.[/quote]

The NCAA doesn't fuck around with their logos and will chase any place that uses them and that makes sense. The NFL is much more generous with the use of their logos.

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[quote=Summo;1307235]The NCAA doesn't fuck around with their logos and will chase any place that uses them and that makes sense. The NFL is much more generous with the use of their logos.[/quote]

Why does that make more sense than being more generous as with the NFL?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1307236]Why does that make more sense than being more generous as with the NFL?[/quote]

The NCAA doesn't have revenue sharing like the NFL and each school relies on sales of merch and donors to keep their programs afloat so any copyright infringement where an outside entity could possibly be making money off their trademarks is a no no.

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[quote=Summo;1307230]If you look it up the Bulldogs G has been approved by Greenbay for them to use.

Also highschool teams around the country have also been allowed to use NFL logos and names for some time now with the NFL's blessing.

Now you Know. :D[/quote]


Summo:

It wasn't a legal question. We were simply discussing names already in use. No talk of laws, trademarks, sanctions, and the like.

You have every right to fully disagree with what I say, but you cannot change the subject to fit your point. That is either sloppy or dishonest.

Once again, I welcome your counter points, but please pay attention to what is actually being stated.

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To be fair, it's hard to have this discussion without keeping the legalities in mind as well. Otherwise, it's a pointless discussion not based in reality.

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[quote=JackLord;1307239]Summo:

It wasn't a legal question. We were simply discussing names already in use. No talk of laws, trademarks, sanctions, and the like.

You have every right to fully disagree with what I say, but you cannot change the subject to fit your point. That is either sloppy or dishonest.

Once again, I welcome your counter points, but please pay attention to what is actually being stated.[/quote]

Do you read your own posts? You clearly stated that the Bulldogs G look like the packers one, that's what I was referring to.

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[quote=Summo;1307237]The NCAA doesn't have revenue sharing like the NFL and each school relies on sales of merch and donors to keep their programs afloat so any copyright infringement where an outside entity could possibly be making money off their trademarks is a no no.[/quote]

Hmmm. Still seems petty. As if Chapman KS, population probably less than 2000, is going to somehow put a dent in Notre Dame's profits by using that logo/mascot.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1307243]Hmmm. Still seems petty. As if Chapman KS, population probably less than 2000, is going to somehow put a dent in Notre Dame's profits by using that logo/mascot.[/quote]

I totally agree but that is the thinking/reasoning behind it.

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[quote=Summo;1307242]Do you read your own posts? You clearly stated that the Bulldogs G look like the packers one, that's what I was referring to.[/quote]

Not only do I read them, but I write them too.

I simply pointed out an example of one team using another teams name or image. I said nothing about any legal issues, ramifications, or artistic theft. Totally irrelevant, at least from my laymen's perspective.

OK?

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[quote=JackLord;1307207]I actually like Redtails as I have huge respect for the Tuskegee Airmen-I intentionally took my son to an event to meet one of them because I wanted him to see the embodiment of service, courage, and unselfishness, especially under extreme conditions.

I just fear that when we are bad- and history shows we pretty much always will be- then other fans are going to use it against us.[/quote]

to be fair, having Wart in the name wouldn't be any better

Regardless, the opposing team will find a way to make fun.

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this is actually a really interested twitter thread if anyones interested

[url]https://twitter.com/JoshGerben/status/1478771124242681862[/url]

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[quote=JackLord;1307245]Not only do I read them, but I write them too.

I simply pointed out an example of one team using another teams name or image. I said nothing about any legal issues, ramifications, or artistic theft. Totally irrelevant, at least from my laymen's perspective.

OK?[/quote]

This is why I have less than 800 posts since 2004. :sleep:

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[quote=Summo;1307247]This is why I have less than 800 posts since 2004. :sleep:[/quote]

And I reckon none of them have you admitting you misread something,

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Admirals .... assmirals, un admirals, admiral assholes, the urinals

'The Urinals" will be the name other fans will call us imo.

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[QUOTE=JackLord;1307248]And I reckon none of them have you admitting you misread something,[/QUOTE]

Didn't you bring that up as an example of how it can be done? So why wouldn't legal issues, ramifications, etc be considered?

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[quote=Swarley;1307252]Didn't you bring that up as an example of how it can be done? So why wouldn't legal issues, ramifications, etc be considered?[/quote]

As explained, that was not my intention. I am not an Intellectual Property Attorney.

Mtk was stating something akin to there already being this or that name in the league. I simply pointed out that lots of different teams have the same name (Eagles for example).

Mentioning the G was just a slightly different observation. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Finlay said on Twitter that the name reveal will happen in NYC on the Today show.

Got some new info on Washington Football name reveal coming from a team source. The actual name reveal is in NYC on Today Show but more is planned for 2.2.22
Will explain now on @1067theFan
[url]https://t.co/KbB3uqtzYZ[/url]

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