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Chico23231 01-19-2023 09:37 AM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=mredskins;1336627]i am tired of that shit, posting shit like that is like bears fans day dreaming about 1986

its time to move on and make some new great memories[/quote]

Yeah man i get it. Just saw that and seeing Gibbs on his knees, that’s the kinda intensity we need back. Starts with a new owner…

mooby 01-19-2023 09:39 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1336627]i am tired of that shit, posting shit like that is like bears fans day dreaming about 1986

its time to move on and make some new great memories[/quote]

Pretty sad that our last great memories of teams that could compete for titles were 30 years ago.

Patiently waiting over here for news of the sale so I can stop being embarrassed to be a fan of this team.

Giantone 01-19-2023 09:47 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1336624]Lol. Good order!
It makes me miserable to hear any of these teams be talked up. My thing is the Giants weren’t even supposed to make the playoffs. So getting to the NFC championship game would mean that win or lose it they won’t stop talking. Beating Minny is no big deal. I can live with that. The Eagles on the other hand fully expected all year to go all the way - losing in the NFC Championship game and only accomplishing beating the Giants in the playoffs would be a disappointment. So if the Giants and Eagles come out of this winning one playoff game each against a team that never had a shot anyway (minny and the Giants) then they can both just stfu until next year. But if the Giants beat Philly and make it to the Conference Championship I have to hear it and deservedly so.[/quote]

You're gonna hear it(not from me) anyway. It was worse in the mid 80's and early 90's. NFC East was the best division back then everyone talked and every team was good.

Giantone 01-19-2023 09:51 AM

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[quote=mooby;1336630]Pretty sad that our last great memories of teams that could compete for titles were 30 years ago.

Patiently waiting over here for news of the sale so I can stop being embarrassed to be a fan of this team.[/quote]

I realize you guys might not believe this but there is alot of empathy around the league for Washington fans.

skinsfaninok 01-19-2023 09:58 AM

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[quote=mooby;1336630]Pretty sad that our last great memories of teams that could compete for titles were 30 years ago.

Patiently waiting over here for news of the sale so I can stop being embarrassed to be a fan of this team.[/quote]

It is man, if Snyder doesn't sell I will stop being a fan. I really mean that

punch it in 01-19-2023 10:20 AM

Wild Card Weekend
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1336630]Pretty sad that our last great memories of teams that could compete for titles were 30 years ago.

Patiently waiting over here for news of the sale so I can stop being embarrassed to be a fan of this team.[/QUOTE]


What I thought. Seeing 35 years ago is just a gut punch.

punch it in 01-19-2023 10:22 AM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1336631]You're gonna hear it(not from me) anyway. It was worse in the mid 80's and early 90's. NFC East was the best division back then everyone talked and every team was good.[/QUOTE]


If you guys make it to the championship game Im really gonna hear it. I can live with a win against Minny. Im glad as a whole the division is not a laughing stock but thats where my good feelings for the other three teams stops. Lol

mredskins 01-19-2023 12:55 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=Chico23231;1336629]Yeah man i get it. Just saw that and seeing Gibbs on his knees, that’s the kinda intensity we need back. Starts with a new owner…[/quote]

i am not picking on you specifically, its just i am over all of it ready to start some new memories

Ruhskins 01-19-2023 01:28 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
I think now half the league doesn't have an OC:

@RapSheet
The #Ravens and OC Greg Roman are parting ways after an impressive run, per me and
@MikeGarafolo

mredskins 01-19-2023 01:34 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1336647]I think now half the league doesn't have an OC:

@RapSheet
The #Ravens and OC Greg Roman are parting ways after an impressive run, per me and
@MikeGarafolo[/quote]

ravens and their fans love to blame the OC, how many have been under John H?

Yet BAL never wants to invest in WRs, go figure.

Chico23231 01-19-2023 01:38 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1336647]I think now half the league doesn't have an OC:

@RapSheet
The #Ravens and OC Greg Roman are parting ways after an impressive run, per me and
@MikeGarafolo[/quote]

Lamar Isn’t coming back now. Really surprising.

Seems like Roman/Lamar/ Patriots makes a lot of sense

Ruhskins 01-19-2023 02:33 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1336648]ravens and their fans love to blame the OC, how many have been under John H?

Yet BAL never wants to invest in WRs, go figure.[/quote]

As successful as Baltimore has been in other aspects, they've failed miserably at getting a good group of wideouts lately.

Ruhskins 01-19-2023 02:58 PM

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This one is for the "Washington is getting turned down by OC candidates"

@JFowlerESPN
The #Chargers have requested to speak with #Vikings offensive coordinator Wes Phillips about their OC position, but Phillips plans to stay with Minnesota, per sources. Phillips highly valued there and Vikings building something he wants to see through.

skinsfaninok 01-19-2023 04:08 PM

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6 Out of the 8 QBs in this divisional round are 2nd round picks and up. 5 being in the first.

The odds of hitting on a QB in the 3rd and below are very slim. I think we need to bring in a QB to compete with SH and not just Heinicke if they re sign him

Chief X_Phackter 01-19-2023 04:16 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1336655]6 Out of the 8 QBs in this divisional round are 2nd round picks and up. 5 being in the first.

The odds of hitting on a QB in the 3rd and below are very slim. I think we need to bring in a QB to compete with SH and not just Heinicke if they re sign him[/quote]

I think it has to be Heinicke OR another QB. There aren't enough reps to go around to have a legit three-way competition to see who will be the starting QB.

Ruhskins 01-19-2023 04:21 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1336655]6 Out of the 8 QBs in this divisional round are 2nd round picks and up. 5 being in the first.

The odds of hitting on a QB in the 3rd and below are very slim. I think we need to bring in a QB to compete with SH and not just Heinicke if they re sign him[/quote]

I want no part of Heinicke next year, especially if we are going with Howell as QB1.

calia 01-19-2023 05:03 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1336636]It is man, if Snyder doesn't sell I will stop being a fan. I really mean that[/quote]

I'm right there with you. And I've been a fan since 1974.

rocnrik 01-19-2023 09:32 PM

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How about letting Sam play and find out .. Purdy sure looks good . Some of the highest draft picks have been the biggest flops .. Sam played one regular season game and we just so happened to kick our biggest rival butt!! He had one bad pass .. IF Taylor and Wentz got there chance Sam should damn well get his !

jamf 01-19-2023 09:37 PM

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Waste a year to fuck around and find out?
I’m ok with Sam getting a shot but how about he wins the job in camp?
Keep drafting till you get it right.
Is Sam the guy? We don’t know so you keep drafting QBs.

rocnrik 01-19-2023 10:07 PM

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Who said anything about a year ?? We gave frickin wentz 28 million and a starting job BEFORE he ever played a down with us .We BLEW our chance at a Franchise QB when we took Young at number two …they were there for us .

Meks 01-19-2023 10:10 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=rocnrik;1336664]Who said anything about a year ?? We gave frickin wentz 28 million and a starting job BEFORE he ever played a down with us .We BLEW our chance at a Franchise QB when we took Young at number two …they were there for us .[/quote]

This. Sadly. Love chase but jag until you prove it wrong.. and for what we could have drafted in comparison? Jag 🤷

punch it in 01-20-2023 01:21 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[QUOTE=jamf;1336663]Waste a year to fuck around and find out?
I’m ok with Sam getting a shot but how about he wins the job in camp?
Keep drafting till you get it right.
Is Sam the guy? We don’t know so you keep drafting QBs.[/QUOTE]


That would be a sound strategy if we had a complete team, and unlimited picks. I hear you Jamf, but without an oline it doesn’t matter who plays quarterback. We also desperately need a mlb, and a shut down corner or said quarterback is going to need to put up 30 a game without an oline. I absolutely do not want to spend a first round pick on any of these guys coming out - especially after seeing a little bit of what Howell is capable of. Certainly don’t want a project in the second or third round either when there will be immediate impact players available at other positions. You want to get another guy in the fourth or fifth go ahead but Howell will beat him out. Build around Howell. If he flops next year at least we may have put together some semblance of a line and sured up the D. Than it will be much easier to spend an early pick on another quarterback. You can blame Ron for wasting money and resources on Wentz and completely fucking up the oline. He made terrible personnel decisions and that is why we are in this position. There is just no way we can reach on a quarterback with the other holes we have. It is an absolute silver lining we grabbed Howell in the fifth round. He is way better than a fifth round talent. Way better.

Ruhskins 01-20-2023 02:03 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=Meks;1336665]This. Sadly. Love chase but jag until you prove it wrong.. and for what we could have drafted in comparison? Jag 🤷[/quote]

I agree with this, but I'm getting a bit tired of the revisionist history with Herbert, which is who everyone keeps saying we should have gotten instead of Chase.

Had we've had the #1 overall pick and chose Chase instead of Burrow, I would agree with the sentiment. But during the draft process no one thought Herbert was worth in high draft pick.

Chief X_Phackter 01-20-2023 02:09 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=punch it in;1336679]That would be a sound strategy if we had a complete team, and unlimited picks. I hear you Jamf, but without an oline it doesn’t matter who plays quarterback. We also desperately need a mlb, and a shut down corner or said quarterback is going to need to put up 30 a game without an oline. I absolutely do not want to spend a first round pick on any of these guys coming out - especially after seeing a little bit of what Howell is capable of. Certainly don’t want a project in the second or third round either when there will be immediate impact players available at other positions. You want to get another guy in the fourth or fifth go ahead but Howell will beat him out. Build around Howell. If he flops next year at least we may have put together some semblance of a line and sured up the D. Than it will be much easier to spend an early pick on another quarterback. You can blame Ron for wasting money and resources on Wentz and completely fucking up the oline. He made terrible personnel decisions and that is why we are in this position. There is just no way we can reach on a quarterback with the other holes we have. It is an absolute silver lining we grabbed Howell in the fifth round. He is way better than a fifth round talent. Way better.[/quote]

I'm all for planning to go with Howell. I also do not want to use a 1st-4th round pick on a QB. Grab a Veteran FA and have a legit competition, but if it's close, roll with Howell...and yes, we have to seriously upgrade this O-line.

As far as the defense, they were top 10 in just about every statistical category last year. That is without Holcomb for most of the year. I'm all for upgrading the LB position, but I don't think it was as much a liability as we all thought it would be. For me, the #1 priority for the defense this off season is figuring out how to bring back Payne, and the #2 priority is finding an elite CB.

SunnySide 01-20-2023 03:15 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
Herbert draft talk is funny ... 90% of the fans were convinced Haskins was "the guy" at that time

Now 90% of the fans think (checks notes) 5th rounder Sam Howell is "the guy" and we shouldnt draft a QB in the first round

In 3 years, 90% of the fans will say we should have drafted QB X in the first round of the 2023 draft

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Draft a QB in the 1st round if a QB w a 1st round grade falls to you

Trade up to get one of the 4 1st round grade QBs

Draft quarterbacks ... draft them in the 1st round, 4th round or the 9th round. Just draft them.

mooby 01-20-2023 07:13 PM

Re: Wild Card Weekend
 
[quote=SunnySide;1336683]Herbert draft talk is funny ... 90% of the fans were convinced Haskins was "the guy" at that time

Now 90% of the fans think (checks notes) 5th rounder Sam Howell is "the guy" and we shouldnt draft a QB in the first round

In 3 years, 90% of the fans will say we should have drafted QB X in the first round of the 2023 draft

----

Draft a QB in the 1st round if a QB w a 1st round grade falls to you

Trade up to get one of the 4 1st round grade QBs

Draft quarterbacks ... draft them in the 1st round, 4th round or the 9th round. Just draft them.[/quote]

Even when we get our stud qb of the future on a rookie deal we still need to draft qb's - just not with anything earlier than a 3rd rounder.

punch it in 01-20-2023 07:39 PM

Wild Card Weekend
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1336682]I'm all for planning to go with Howell. I also do not want to use a 1st-4th round pick on a QB. Grab a Veteran FA and have a legit competition, but if it's close, roll with Howell...and yes, we have to seriously upgrade this O-line.

As far as the defense, they were top 10 in just about every statistical category last year. That is without Holcomb for most of the year. I'm all for upgrading the LB position, but I don't think it was as much a liability as we all thought it would be. For me, the #1 priority for the defense this off season is figuring out how to bring back Payne, and the #2 priority is finding an elite CB.[/QUOTE]


Yeah ilb is not as important but id love to have a difference maker there. It is so important. Someone who can cover tight ends!

Oh and yeah they better bring back Payne. We gotta alot of dead weight to get rid of and it should work out fine.


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