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[quote=rocnrik;1354248]What's more important the System or the player ? Does anyone think Dak is a top
Level QB? Hurts is a solid QB but they can't go but so far giving up points like they did to Dallas .. Purdy was last player in draft selection .Bryce Young first player selected..Sam played Big time college Ball and has seen everything the NFL has to this point . His supporting cast is dismal and still he has showed great potential.. If we had used a number one pick on him would we be talking about yet another number one pick QB ?? Let's take a page out of San Fran and build a team around the QB and give him a chance .. We never ever seem to learn .. Right now who would you pick Bryce Young or Purdy ?? There is no way this team can afford a swing and miss with our top pick .. and it's at best a 50/50 gamble with a QB .. What is it that Sam can't do ?? He can Run .. he has enough arm strength to throw it deep .. he is tough as nails .. his team mates love him .. he is coachable .. yes he has struggled but what QB wouldn't with the WORST Oline in league .. and always playing from Behind because we have WORST D in league.. AND WORST coaching staff in league ... yea that is a blueprint for success 😳. If we don't Upgrade significantly the Oline and get TE and won't matter if we have the number one overall pick ..[/quote]

Selecting a QB in the first round doesn't mean that we are not going to attempt to fill other roster needs. That whole argument is getting old.

Even with a trade, we're likely to have draft picks to fill needs, and we'll have $90 million dollar of cap room to fill any roster needs.

You know what this team has not had since Joe Gibbs' second stint as coach? A GM and HC having the ability to pick their own QB without Snyder meddling in the decision.

And again, I'm not saying we HAVE to draft a QB with the first round pick. But I don't get this strong opposition from fans to the notion of this happening.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1354252]Selecting a QB in the first round doesn't mean that we are not going to attempt to fill other roster needs. That whole argument is getting old.

Even with a trade, we're likely to have draft picks to fill needs, and we'll have $90 million dollar of cap room to fill any roster needs.

You know what this team has not had since Joe Gibbs' second stint as coach? A GM and HC having the ability to pick their own QB without Snyder meddling in the decision.

And again, I'm not saying we HAVE to draft a QB with the first round pick. But I don't get this strong opposition from fans to the notion of this happening.[/QUOTE]


I think both of these posts are on point. We make way too much of draft position in assessing how to slot needs. The need to find good QB’ing is never satisfied, and if they really like a guy, pick him wherever he’s available, high or low.

At the same time, this organization has been terrible at developing players into a cohesive and successful system. Howell is smart and has good skills and toughness. If the new bosses like him and they don’t like who’s available when they are picking, fine. Just have a plan and keep extraneous bullshit out of it.


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[URL="https://riggosrag.com/posts/commanders-7-round-2024-nfl-mock-draft-filling-needs-edition/2"]https://riggosrag.com/posts/commanders-7-round-2024-nfl-mock-draft-filling-needs-edition/2[/URL]

Find myself agreeing with this. Yes, we have to think about a QB IF the right guy is available, and it would be hard to overlook Harrison if he too is available. But at #4 (likely) and unlikely to find the top 3 willing to trade with us, Alt or Fashanu make total sense.

Not sure about Jackson with the 2nd pick, but he does make sense with Alt. And it would mean they only need to find a replacement RT in free agency to have a totally rebuilt line.

Still like us to address WR, a backup QB, and improved depth all round, but a draft like this and good use of FA could put us in a competitive position next season.

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Harrison, Alt, and Fashanu would all be awesome additions. I will exit day 1 with a smile on my face if we got any one of them. And Howell would definitely be smiling!

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I read today Fashanu hasn’t given up a sack his entire collegiate career. Insane

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Defense is for lame'o's.

4. Joe Alt - OT - Notre Dame
36. Xavier Legette - WR - South Carolina
42. Michael Penix Jr. - QB - Washington
68. Zach Frazier - OC - West Virginia
96. Ben Sinnott - TE - Kansas State
100. Tate Ratledge - OG - Georgia
132. Christian Mahogany - OG - Boston College
164. Matt Goncalves - OT - Pittsburgh
196. Roger Rosengarten - OT - Washington

I'm here to score points and see glitties.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1354268]Defense is for lame'o's.

4. Joe Alt - OT - Notre Dame
36. Xavier Legette - WR - South Carolina
42. Michael Penix Jr. - QB - Washington
68. Zach Frazier - OC - West Virginia
96. Ben Sinnott - TE - Kansas State
100. Tate Ratledge - OG - Georgia
132. Christian Mahogany - OG - Boston College
164. Matt Goncalves - OT - Pittsburgh
196. Roger Rosengarten - OT - Washington

I'm here to score points and see glitties.[/quote]

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I honestly wish the season was over already. Can't believe I'm doing mock drafts in mid-December (again).

4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT - Penn State
36. Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB - Clemson
42. Sedrick Van Pran, OC - Georgia
68. Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE - Texas
96. D.J. James, CB - Auburn
100. Tommy Eichenberg, LB - Ohio State
132. Khyree Jackson, CB - Oregon
164. Jordan Jefferson, DT - LSU
196. Ashton Gillotte, EDGE - Louisville

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1354271]I honestly wish the season was over already. Can't believe I'm doing mock drafts in mid-December (again).

4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT - Penn State
36. Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB - Clemson
42. Sedrick Van Pran, OC - Georgia
68. Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE - Texas
96. D.J. James, CB - Auburn
100. Tommy Eichenberg, LB - Ohio State
132. Khyree Jackson, CB - Oregon
164. Jordan Jefferson, DT - LSU
196. Ashton Gillotte, EDGE - Louisville[/quote]

I can't believe you can't believe it lol. This is the Redskins/WFT/Commanders way! But I think this is the final year of it. I trust Harris to hire the right people. Frankly, I have to!

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1354269][IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/SSFBdmmKG3jK9GqDbt/giphy.gif[/IMG][/quote]

I figured you would like this one. As you're definitely the leader, or co-leader, of the offense matters way more than defense movement (when it comes to consistency over multiple years).

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1354271]I honestly wish the season was over already. Can't believe I'm doing mock drafts in mid-December (again).

4. Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT - Penn State
36. Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB - Clemson
42. Sedrick Van Pran, OC - Georgia
68. Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE - Texas
96. D.J. James, CB - Auburn
100. Tommy Eichenberg, LB - Ohio State
132. Khyree Jackson, CB - Oregon
164. Jordan Jefferson, DT - LSU
196. Ashton Gillotte, EDGE - Louisville[/QUOTE]


You really can’t believe it? [emoji24]


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IF we pick @4 and IF we could make the trades work (some of these are very optimistic), I'd be very happy with something like this. I just can't see Alt dropping to #7.

I'd personally like to see us plug a few gaps with FA, but mainly with the draft. Young guys that will hopefully justify an extended contract in a few years bolstered with a few FA's so the cap remains manageable for years to come. IF SH is the future we need to be able to build a roster that supports him and manage cap to allow us to retain him when his rookie deal expires without sacrificing the rest of the roster.

trade down
7. Joe Alt OT Notre Dame
36. Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB Clemson
41. Emeka Egbuka WR Ohio State
trade back
73. Ruke Orhorhoro DT Clemson
trade back
78. Christian Haynes OG UConn
96. Ben Sinnott TE Kansas State
100. Tommy Eichenberg LB Ohio State
trade back
113. Mike Sainristil CB Michigan
trade back
129. Hudson Clark S Arkansas
132. Deontae Lawson LB Alabama
164. Drake Nugent OC Michigan
trade back
216. Brady Cook QB Missouri

2025 NYJ 2nd
2025 LAC 4th
2025 PHI 7th

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List of QB needy teams [emoji3596]

Bears (Maybe)
Pats
Falcons
Browns (Watson is bad now )
Commanders
Vikings (If they don’t keep KC)
Raiders


Who else am I missing?


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I'm very disappointed in Sams play .. I truly thought he could be the diamond in the rough .. late round gem .. boy was I way off ( he hasn't played well for a long time .. I figured he would bounce back and give us hope .. not to be

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Jam was right about Howell. We all had rose colored glasses on lol. He could still become a good QB but is he the franchise guy? Very unlikely


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354530]Jam was right about Howell. We all had rose colored glasses on lol. He could still become a good QB but is he the franchise guy? Very unlikely


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He might be right about him not being the Franchise QB but Sam will be in the league a long time as backup type guy .. what will probably happen is we draft a QB and trade Sam and he ends up a pro bowl guy and comes back to haunt us .. while the guy we draft is a bust ..😀

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4. Jayden Daniels - QB - LSU
36. Jordan Morgan - OT - Arizona
41. Cooper Beebe - OG - Kansas State
68. Chris Braswell - EDGE - Alabama
96. Tory Horton - WR - Colorado State
100. Deontae Lawson - LB - Alabama
132. Brandon Coleman - OG - TCU
164. Beaux Limmer - OC - Arkansas
196. Ennis Rakestraw Jr. - CB - Missouri

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1354584]4. Jayden Daniels - QB - LSU
36. Jordan Morgan - OT - Arizona
41. Cooper Beebe - OG - Kansas State
68. Chris Braswell - EDGE - Alabama
96. Tory Horton - WR - Colorado State
100. Deontae Lawson - LB - Alabama
132. Brandon Coleman - OG - TCU
164. Beaux Limmer - OC - Arkansas
196. Ennis Rakestraw Jr. - CB - Missouri[/quote]

I'd be ok with this

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The last major threat to a top 4 pick will be this weeks game. We win and, I think there is a good chance we will, we likely drop to pick 8.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354530]Jam was right about Howell. We all had rose colored glasses on lol. He could still become a good QB but is he the franchise guy? Very unlikely


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I love you ❤️💕

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1354516]List of QB needy teams [emoji3596]

Bears (Maybe)
Pats
Falcons
Browns (Watson is bad now )
Commanders
Vikings (If they don’t keep KC)
Raiders


Who else am I missing?


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Steelers should be looking. Probably a handful of teams that should be on that list but are gonna run it back for better or for worse.

Like the Giants.

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[quote=jamf;1354668]I love you ❤️💕[/quote]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1354584]4. Jayden Daniels - QB - LSU
36. Jordan Morgan - OT - Arizona
41. Cooper Beebe - OG - Kansas State
68. Chris Braswell - EDGE - Alabama
96. Tory Horton - WR - Colorado State
100. Deontae Lawson - LB - Alabama
132. Brandon Coleman - OG - TCU
164. Beaux Limmer - OC - Arkansas
196. Ennis Rakestraw Jr. - CB - Missouri[/quote]


This would be a great draft.....we would probably hit on every pick.

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Observation... we traded Sweat and Young for draft picks ( essentially giving up on season for the future ) .. a win vs jets is absolutely the WORST thing that could happen now ( or any win) .. if we lose out we are in the mix for the franchise QB.. Do teams tank on purpose and how would that go down .. we are so bad anyways that I'm not sure anyone would notice .. thoughts

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[quote=rocnrik;1354531]He might be right about him not being the Franchise QB but Sam will be in the league a long time as backup type guy .. what will probably happen is we draft a QB and trade Sam and he ends up a pro bowl guy and comes back to haunt us .. while the guy we draft is a bust ..😀[/quote]

The latter portion of the post is dead on our luck lol.

Team is hot garbage, can't personally fairly call sam a backup or a franchise guy. I still have faith that with better surroundings he'll be legit as hell. Only time will tell

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[quote=rocnrik;1354684]Observation... we traded Sweat and Young for draft picks ( essentially giving up on season for the future ) .. a win vs jets is absolutely the WORST thing that could happen now ( or any win) .. if we lose out we are in the mix for the franchise QB.. Do teams tank on purpose and how would that go down .. we are so bad anyways that I'm not sure anyone would notice .. thoughts[/quote]

HUGE GAME SUNDAY! WE NEED PRIME RIVERA, AND THAT SHOULD GIVE US THE LOSS WE NEED!!

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the other thing to be worried about is that the 49ers and cowboys have something to play for when we play them


please please please don't win on sunday

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Yeah in Typical RR fashion we will fuck it up and beat the Jets by 3 watch


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354690]Yeah in Typical RR fashion we will fuck it up and beat the Jets by 3 watch

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Zach Wilson won't be playing, so it's safe to bring your wives and girlfriends.

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The Jets Defense should own us tho so maybe we will get lucky lol

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354693]The Jets Defense should own us tho so maybe we will get lucky lol[/quote]

I will be starting the Jets defense in fantasy football. I'm looking for about 38 points from them.

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LSU fan here. 🙋🏻*♂️ I have watched every game he has played the last 2 years.
Jaden Daniels is an undersized, 1 read and tuck it QB

He has bust written all over him. That being said, it would be the most Redskins thing to do to draft Daniels with no talent around him and cry about it later. Hopefully the new GM, Coaches, and owners aren’t as stupid as the last 24 years previous.

We all want a winning team. The best teams year in and year out have the best offensive linemen. That’s what we want. If we are able to assemble the best offensive line, you will see a perennial winner. Hail

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[QUOTE=Redskin Jim;1354817]LSU fan here. [emoji1327]*[emoji3603] I have watched every game he has played the last 2 years.
Jaden Daniels is an undersized, 1 read and tuck it QB

He has bust written all over him. That being said, it would be the most Redskins thing to do to draft Daniels with no talent around him and cry about it later. Hopefully the new GM, Coaches, and owners aren’t as stupid as the last 24 years previous.

We all want a winning team. The best teams year in and year out have the best offensive linemen. That’s what we want. If we are able to assemble the best offensive line, you will see a perennial winner. Hail[/QUOTE]


I haven’t watched much of JD but in all fairness they said the same about Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts too…


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If we blow this pick ... we will !!

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[quote=rocnrik;1354819]If we blow this pick ... we will !![/quote]

Remain where we are.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1354818]I haven’t watched much of JD but in all fairness they said the same about Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts too…


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And stick either of those guys behind our OL and what do you think you'd get?

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Let’s see how Sam does the next few weeks


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[quote=Redskin Jim;1354817]LSU fan here. 🙋🏻*♂️ I have watched every game he has played the last 2 years.
Jaden Daniels is an undersized, 1 read and tuck it QB

He has bust written all over him. That being said, it would be the most Redskins thing to do to draft Daniels with no talent around him and cry about it later. Hopefully the new GM, Coaches, and owners aren’t as stupid as the last 24 years previous.

We all want a winning team. The best teams year in and year out have the best offensive linemen. That’s what we want. If we are able to assemble the best offensive line, you will see a perennial winner. Hail[/quote]

Jaden Daniels is the new shiny object and will be a bust

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[quote=Chico23231;1354825]Jaden Daniels is the new shiny object and will be a bust[/quote]

The odds a great in your favor ...