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I like the Marriota signing.
It's safe to say that Williams or Daniels will be our starter this season.
If anything happens, Marriota can step in and run the same offense.

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i believe the MM was signed to give them flexibility with Sam .. if they can trade him for 4th rounder then he maybe gone .. signing MM fills that hole .. i would not get rid of howell for anything less than 4 rounder .. with the way QB injuries take place he could be worth something at some point ..

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[quote=jamf;1360107][B]Sam Howell fans are on the struggle bus today.[/B]
Mac Jones was traded for a 6th.
Maybe if we expand the draft to 12 rounds like the old days we can get a pick for Howell.
June 1st cut![/quote]

I was never really a SH fan and at one point it was just you and I not loving him, but SFREDSKIN straight up owes us an apology, he was legit mean about the subject kind of loss respect for him and i get along with the majority here

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[quote=MTK;1360103]The 2nd overall pick isn’t riding the pine[/quote]

He's not, but I really wished he would. Mahomes rode the pine his entire first year and it did him the world of good.

Same with Rodgers, Rivers, Love, etc....

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[QUOTE=jamf;1360118]I like the Marriota signing.
It's safe to say that Williams or Daniels will be our starter this season.
If anything happens, Marriota can step in and run the same offense.[/QUOTE]


Mariota is awful, but would be a good babysitter. You would like it if we signed a 52 year old Gus Frerotte as long as it meant Sam was out the door. Lol.

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Marriota was signed to a one-year 6 million dollar deal he's not anything more than a camp body that knows Brian Johnson's system. Howell is young and still on a rookie deal it''d be ridiculous to trade him for anything less than a third, simply because one good day as a backup will increase his value next year. Keeping three quarterbacks on the roster, two on rookie deals and one at six million Is good cap management given how injuries can go with QBs.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1360124]Marriota was signed to a one-year 6 million dollar deal he's not anything more than a camp body that knows Brian Johnson's system. Howell is young and still on a rookie deal it''d be ridiculous to trade him for anything less than a third, simply because one good day as a backup will increase his value next year. Keeping three quarterbacks on the roster, two on rookie deals and one at six million Is good cap management given how injuries can go with QBs.

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I don't think you give Mariota $6 million to be a "camp body". That has to be up there with the highest paid backup quarterbacks...

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[quote=NC_Skins;1360122]He's not, but I really wished he would. Mahomes rode the pine his entire first year and it did him the world of good.

Same with Rodgers, Rivers, Love, etc....[/quote]

But there are many examples the other way. Burrow, Herbert and Stroud played right away and played well. 3 QB from the 2012 draft did as well, we can go all the way back to Big Ben and even Marino to find other examples.

With the way the league is now teams don't get a full 5 years before they have to sign their franchise QB to a monster deal. Teams do not want to waste 2 of those seasons they will have under a rookie contract anymore, they want their rookie QB on the field as soon as possible.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1360122]He's not, but I really wished he would. Mahomes rode the pine his entire first year and it did him the world of good.

Same with Rodgers, Rivers, Love, etc....[/quote]

Let’s be honest Mahomes could have started right away and been fine.

The days of having a rookie sit are long gone.

Those guys sat because of who was in front of them not because they weren’t ready.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1360128]I don't think you give Mariota $6 million to be a "camp body". That has to be up there with the highest paid backup quarterbacks...[/QUOTE]It's kind of high average as a one year cost, but not anything at allespecially when looking at total contract values.

BUT when you've got two other QBs on rookie salaries it makes that cap cost a lot less daunting

[url]https://boardroom.tv/highest-paid-backup-qb-2023-nfl/[/url]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1360128]I don't think you give Mariota $6 million to be a "camp body". That has to be up there with the highest paid backup quarterbacks...[/quote]

Yeah he’s clearly coming in as the backup… I don’t get the “what about Sam” nonsense. We paid JB $8m last year so yeah Mariota’s deal is right in line with backup money.

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You need a veteran backup, if you're going to have a rookie QB starting day one. I'm fine with that signing for that reason. Hopefully Mariota won't have to take any meaningful snaps.

[QUOTE=MTK;1360134]Yeah he’s clearly coming in as the backup… I don’t get the “what about Sam” nonsense. We paid JB $8m last year so yeah Mariota’s deal is right in line with backup money.[/QUOTE]

Sam barely has a full season under his belt. If you're going to have a high draft pick QB, you need a vet back up to help with their upbringing.

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[quote=punch it in;1360123]Mariota is awful, but would be a good babysitter. You would like it if we signed a 52 year old Gus Frerotte as long as it meant Sam was out the door. Lol.[/quote]


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Another...

[QUOTE]Nicki Jhabvala
Former Cowboys DE Dante Fowler Jr. agreed to terms with the Commanders, per source.

Fowler is the third ex-Cowboy to reunite with Dan Quinn in Washington.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360143]Another...[/quote]

Not a bad move, he's a pass rusher specialist. Not sure if he is still that good lately though.

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[quote=mredskins;1360121]I was never really a SH fan and at one point it was just you and I not loving him, but SFREDSKIN straight up owes us an apology, he was legit mean about the subject kind of loss respect for him and i get along with the majority here[/quote]

Yeah forgot about that, he was riding the Sam high-horse pretty hard

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And another.... still not a OT in sight though

[QUOTE]Tom Pelissero
Long snapper news: The #Commanders are signing Tyler Ott to a three-year deal, per source. A reunion with new coordinator Larry Izzo, who coached him in Seattle.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360105]JP Finlay seems to think JD5 is now a lock[/quote]

All the dots seem to be connecting that way.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1360147]All the dots seem to be connecting that way.[/quote]

Not necessarily, as Keim commented, they wanted Darnold first and he is far more similar to Maye. Mariota was who was available and had worked with Brian Johnson in Philly. Keim seems sure they have not made a decision and are going through the process which will involve pro days and private visits before coming to a conclusion

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And another

[QUOTE]Nicki Jhabvala
Safety Jeremy Chinn agreed to a one-year deal with the Commanders that has a max value of a little more than $5.1M, a source confirmed.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360146]And another.... still not a OT in sight though[/quote]

RR was going fill that need with our #2 pick if he was still here

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360149]And another[/quote]

here's a take on Chinn's demise in Carolina. Spoiler it won't make you happy.

[url]https://www.catscratchreader.com/2024/3/4/24088071/24-questions-for-24-what-happened-to-jeremy-chinn[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;1360150]RR was going fill that need with our #2 pick if he was still here[/quote]

Only if he had position flex and comes from a military family.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1360151]here's a take on Chinn's demise in Carolina. Spoiler it won't make you happy.

[url]https://www.catscratchreader.com/2024/3/4/24088071/24-questions-for-24-what-happened-to-jeremy-chinn[/url][/quote]

I don't know, it seems like he might make for a good strong safety. Kam Curl's replacement this year?

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Cat scratch reader lmao. Good one. 1yr depth deal? Hope so.

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Chinn was 2nd behind CY for rookie of the year in 2020

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[quote=mredskins;1360050]Grade: B

The Commanders need an identity at linebacker with new coach Dan Quinn bringing his intense 4-3 scheme to town. They'll get that in the versatile Luvu. In 2023, Luvu had 5.5 sacks, 125 tackles and 2 forced fumbles playing in the middle of the Carolina Panthers defense. Now he'll have the protection of big defensive tackles Jonathan Allen and Daron Payne keeping blockers off his frame while he runs down ball carriers.


Linebacker wasn't a top-three need on my board for the Commanders, but it was paramount they brought in someone who could handle openings at weak and strongside linebacker, and Luvu has the ability to play all three linebacker spots. Could we see the Commanders use him in ways similar to how Quinn used Micah Parsons in Dallas? His pass-rush traits say it's possible. And at just $12 million per year, he would be signed on a value contract if he produces similar pass-rush numbers in 2024. At that AAV, he's the seventh-highest-paid linebacker, which speaks to his ability and upside in Quinn's defense. -- Miller[/quote]

Was Parsons ever used in the middle LB position? I don't see the Skins using Luvu as an edge rusher.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360082]Marcus Mariota has signed a 1 year deal per Adam S..

Good backup for a rookie[/quote]
This one makes no sense to me unless they are trading Howell (who is better and cheaper). And I don't buy into the mentor reason (Why have a QB coach)???

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[quote=MTK;1360087]Got to wonder what Sam’s future is here now. If someone offers up a draft pick take it and run.[/quote] If it anything less than a #3 then no. He is better than Mariota and certainly cheaper.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1360105]JP Finlay seems to think JD5 is now a lock[/quote]

His analysis is off as it was reported the Skins wanted Darnold before settling on Mariota. If they had gotten Darnold then Finlay would be saying Maye was a lock.

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[quote=jamf;1360107]Sam Howell fans are on the struggle bus today.
Mac Jones was traded for a 6th.
Maybe if we expand the draft to 12 rounds like the old days we can get a pick for Howell.
June 1st cut![/quote]

Howell was far more successful than Jones.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1360112][I]While the Commanders select second in the first round they'll pick fourth in the second [B]while the Cardinals pick third and the Patriots select third. [/I]
[/B]
I see typos like this almost every day. And not from posters, these are published articles from well know (if going out of business in this case) sources.

What ever happened to journalism?[/quote]

I think the focus was on the Redskins picks which led him to mix up the Pats and Cards picks.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1360128]I don't think you give Mariota $6 million to be a "camp body". That has to be up there with the highest paid backup quarterbacks...[/quote]

You haven't given it to him until he makes it to the regular season.

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[quote=GridIron26;1360144]Not a bad move, he's a pass rusher specialist. Not sure if he is still that good lately though.[/quote]
Maybe depends on the contract. Anything more that 2.5mil would be a mistake.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360149]And another[/quote]
Good signing for that amount. Not as good as Curl but almost certainly a lot cheaper.

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Damn Hunter is gone. Was hoping. Well Chase is the next best alternative and we still need an edge rusher (no Fowler doesn't count he isn't starting material).

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[quote=nonniey;1360165]Damn Hunter is gone. Was hoping. Well Chase is the next best alternative and we still need an edge rusher (no Fowler doesn't count he isn't starting material).[/quote]

I'm not sure Chase is starting material either . . .

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I do hope we resign Reeves. Great on teams and played well at S when given the chance. I’d like to see Fuller back and Lucas as a reserve T. Need more T and CB help for sure.


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Still some good CBs out there, including Fuller.

Still some good OTs out there too.

This is also considered a deep draft class for these two positions.