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Chief X_Phackter 04-27-2024 03:52 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Is there a hard hat avatar, because the sky is literally falling in here 24/7.

Since the season ended, we have improved every single position group, with maybe one exception - OT. I wanted the next TW too, but it didn't fall that way.

This team is so much better than it was 5 months ago.

Meks 04-27-2024 04:06 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361691]Is there a hard hat avatar, because the sky is literally falling in here 24/7.

Since the season ended, we have improved every single position group, with maybe one exception - OT. I wanted the next TW too, but it didn't fall that way.

This team is so much better than it was 5 months ago.[/quote]

That's the hope but the field and the execution will be the final judge. As of right now it's easy to still be iffy on the o line protecting a (also as of right now) undersized running rookie qb. It's a scary place to be for fans of this franchise given everything we've all been through

That Guy 04-27-2024 06:47 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
cbs sports picked washington as the winner of day 2, not that any instant grades really mean anything, but some people covering this stuff weren't nearly as down on it. They really liked the TE (as a player/prospect) too.

kiper called WC day 2 winners as well, only thinking the WR was a reach.

so for whatever that's worth.

skinsfan69 04-27-2024 07:02 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Seems like they went bpa so it is what it is. Just wish there was a day one starting o-linemen in there, but they did grab a te. Only time will tell.

HTTR 04-27-2024 07:26 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Bringing our roster up to playoff caliber is a 2 year project, so bpa choices after round 1 make sense. But protecting JD is an immediate need. I don’t see Bobby Johnson as a guru who can turn our jags into solid performers, so AP/DQ must have a plan, other than going with max protect sets. My guess is they’re targeting someone’s expendable B grade LT


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davy 04-27-2024 08:28 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Well Peters has certainly stuck to his plan so far.

He stated very early on that he was going to build the roster from the inside out.

So the fact that he has almost completely ignored WR, CB and OT should not be a surprise.

Even the CB and WR picks are slot guys.

AnonEmouse 04-27-2024 08:32 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
I may be on my own here, but while I don't love it, I like the draft and love a couple of the picks. JD (duh!), Newton and Sinnott. The rest are solid but not spectacular picks. My suspicion is they're looking at shipping Allen out and he'll be bait for an LT trade, after they couldn't trade up. Some of those that took LT's in rd 1 now have something of a surplus (Jets?) so will be looking to adjust post draft. Given they tried to trade back up into rd 1 but couldn't get a bite, they know full well that LT is a concern. But there's time to put a stop gap in place before camp, and look to the 25 draft to fill that gap long term.

rocnrik 04-27-2024 08:45 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361691]Is there a hard hat avatar, because the sky is literally falling in here 24/7.

Since the season ended, we have improved every single position group, with maybe one exception - OT. I wanted the next TW too, but it didn't fall that way.

This team is so much better than it was 5 months ago.[/quote]

Yep !

CRedskinsRule 04-27-2024 08:46 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Anyone going to the national harbor event from 11 to 4 today?

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RobH4413 04-27-2024 08:51 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
I love love love the Ben Sinnott pick. Some say we over drafted, but when this dude bails out JD on 3rd and long all season, people will lose their minds. By far my favorite non QB pick.

Chico23231 04-27-2024 08:53 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
They went by their board and grabbed guys they liked. My personal opinion was the TE/WR were reaches, but these are their guys and they did the work and filled 2 important spots.

My hope is Coleman is a tackle as opposed to guard. Ben Standig says the plan is LT which is great.

Everyone needs to remember, 12 tackles were taken in the first and second round. Teams will be cutting some tackles to make room for the new guys. We will have the ability to fill in holes after the draft.

mooby 04-27-2024 09:47 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361691]Is there a hard hat avatar, because the sky is literally falling in here 24/7.

Since the season ended, we have improved every single position group, with maybe one exception - OT. I wanted the next TW too, but it didn't fall that way.

This team is so much better than it was 5 months ago.[/quote]

Love it.

I'm enjoying how we talked about how deep we are at DT and then they take a DT with the first pick in the second round.

But if that kid grows up to be the next Allen or Payne (aka similar/better production while also reducing their heavy snap count) it will be entirely worth it.

Phidarian Mathis' and his fat ass should be sweating heavy right now. Time to earn your roster spot my guy.

I forgot to add, they mentioned when he was taken that Allen/Payne played like 80% of the snaps last year. Next highest guy was John Ridgeway with like 30% of the snaps, and everybody else was under 20%. Those numbers aren't sustainable, we need depth that can rotate in/out on the regular.

mooby 04-27-2024 09:54 AM

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[quote=RobH4413;1361703]I love love love the Ben Sinnott pick. Some say we over drafted, but when this dude bails out JD on 3rd and long all season, people will lose their minds. By far my favorite non QB pick.[/quote]

This and Sainristil are getting rave reviews everywhere, I haven't seen anybody saying an ill word about either yet. People were calling Sainristil the best player on the best defense in college football last year.

Not gonna lie it feels good to have a GM that can pick these guys in the 2nd/3rd. I'm excited already.

mooby 04-27-2024 09:56 AM

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[url]https://twitter.com/Goodguyike_18/status/1784018024862748978[/url]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

[quote]
Y’all talking bout “it wasn’t a need”. Bruh. We won 4 games last year. Everything is a need. Be for real. Please. I’m begging y’all.
[/quote]

vallin21 04-27-2024 10:12 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Great draft so far!

Wish we didn't trade back with the Eagles, who took DeJean, but we got two extra 2nd round picks. I think Coleman has a real shot to start at LT week 1. We needed a TE, so I don't think Sinnot was a reach. His game reminds me of Dallas Clark, Cooley, Heath Miller.

Defensewins 04-27-2024 10:23 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Yes, the true grade of this draft will be in a year or three. Not today or yesterday.
I think some of the naysayers here would have slit their wrist during Bobby Beatherds best drafts back in 1981 - 1986. Nobody knew the names of people like Monte Coleman, Darryl Grant, UDFA Jeff Bostic and UDFA Joe Jacoby.
More recently Brock Purdy of SF comes to mind. This is not an exact science and anyone picked anywhere can become a HOF.
Let’s let the cake bake before we…..
Some talk like their player evaluations today of players that have never played in the NFL is set in stone.

sdskinsfan2001 04-27-2024 10:51 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
I like the draft so far. Coleman is listed as a T by the team. Look at pictures/measurables/test scores, he definitely has the physical attributes. Him and Sinnot were 2 guys I wanted after Round 1.

Newton was a 1st round talent. I'll never get mad with going BPA with a trench player. BPA, not reaching like with Mathis.

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2024 10:52 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Is this opinion good enough for y'all?

"I LOVE... there's a difference between love and LOVE... I LOVE this guy. This guy may be the best football player pound-for-pound in the draft." - [B]Nick Saban[/B] on Michigan CB Mike Sainristil, selected by the Commanders at No. 50.

MTK 04-27-2024 10:54 AM

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A lot to like about this draft so far… don’t really get the negativity by some although the haters seem to be in the minority

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2024 10:59 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=vallin21;1361708]Great draft so far!

Wish we didn't trade back with the Eagles, who took DeJean, but we got two extra 2nd round picks. I think Coleman has a real shot to start at LT week 1. We needed a TE, so I don't think Sinnot was a reach. His game reminds me of Dallas Clark, Cooley, Heath Miller.[/quote]

Cooley was the comparison that immediately came to my mind when I first saw Sinnott. It won't be long before we all love this player.

mooby 04-27-2024 11:06 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[url]https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/status/1784015720952598790[/url]

Adam Peters - "You can never have too many good d-linemen."

I like it.

nonniey 04-27-2024 11:06 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Well, three picks today (two 5s and a 7). Don't really care what position as these will be development picks.

punch it in 04-27-2024 11:18 AM

Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1361691]Is there a hard hat avatar, because the sky is literally falling in here 24/7.

Since the season ended, we have improved every single position group, with maybe one exception - OT. I wanted the next TW too, but it didn't fall that way.

This team is so much better than it was 5 months ago.[/QUOTE]


Nobody is saying it isn’t better than it was (seemingly). What we are saying is it could be even better (seemingly). There is a difference. Lol.

Not hating on any of the picks per say - they will all hopefully and eventually contribute, but man Cooper was there for the taking. Also I feel like he took McCaffrey because of his relationship with his brother and there were some other wr’s there , more than a few, who were rated higher.

Newton is an absolute beast. Almost had to take him at 36. Daniels was obviously the pick at 2. Sansriti is a ball hawk but small and not Dejean. Sinnott is a good blocker and an instant upgrade.

Definitely not hating. I would have stuck with Cooper and would have taken another wr. That is all.

skinsnut 04-27-2024 11:28 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Wondering if Ridgeway is in trouble, as he was at Dallas, yet we spend our most precious pick, other than QB, on a DT. Dan Quinn knows Ridgeway very well I would think. Also, LT roster cuts? Like who would do that? Maybe pick someone off a practice squad. And whoever said we improved at every position is ignoring many spots, LT, DE, outside CB, backup QB, strong safety, c'mon, we have not improved these all.

Chico23231 04-27-2024 11:34 AM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1361711]Is this opinion good enough for y'all?

"I LOVE... there's a difference between love and LOVE... I LOVE this guy. This guy may be the best football player pound-for-pound in the draft." - [B]Nick Saban[/B] on Michigan CB Mike Sainristil, selected by the Commanders at No. 50.[/quote]

This was my favorite pick yesterday.


My biggest surprise wasn’t waiting on a tackle, but we didn’t draft an edge.

Definitely agree with adding more size with the receivers this offseason with Ertz, McCaffrey and Sinnott.

mooby 04-27-2024 11:34 AM

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[img]https://scontent.fagc3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/438652475_425278373422774_438349626195969187_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=Zr0x29NXZuMQ7kNvgEYDoH6&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc3-2.fna&oh=00_AfBcN4dEcUHrnEHe5fT8tOp6sNUXTf_UmYbTZU6rv8v7Xg&oe=6632C240[/img]

We're gonna need to dig up this thread in about 3 years or so because guaranteed some of these qb's are gonna be ass.

nonniey 04-27-2024 11:43 AM

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[quote=mooby;1361721][img]https://scontent.fagc3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/438652475_425278373422774_438349626195969187_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=Zr0x29NXZuMQ7kNvgEYDoH6&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc3-2.fna&oh=00_AfBcN4dEcUHrnEHe5fT8tOp6sNUXTf_UmYbTZU6rv8v7Xg&oe=6632C240[/img]

We're gonna need to dig up this thread in about 3 years or so because guaranteed some of these qb's are gonna be ass.[/quote]

T think were they go and the systems they are put in is half the reason for success or failure. Imagine Brady or Purdy being drafted by the Redskins neither would have got a chance and they would have faded into history.

skinsnut 04-27-2024 12:01 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Call me a hater. We had 2 objectives, get a QB, good job. Get a starting LT, or at least starting after a few games. FAIL. So yes, I am pissed. The rest of the picks can be argued on merit, but we failed the prime directive.

Meks 04-27-2024 12:03 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
I just can't stomach the idea of going into another season of rookie qb + shitty o line combo again. Hoping for the best.

BaltimoreSkins 04-27-2024 12:23 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Only pick I don’t get is newton. Reminds me of the Mathis pick a few years ago drafting a surplus of interior when we are deficient elsewhere.

punch it in 04-27-2024 12:23 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsnut;1361719]Wondering if Ridgeway is in trouble, as he was at Dallas, yet we spend our most precious pick, other than QB, on a DT. Dan Quinn knows Ridgeway very well I would think. Also, LT roster cuts? Like who would do that? Maybe pick someone off a practice squad. And whoever said we improved at every position is ignoring many spots, LT, DE, outside CB, backup QB, strong safety, c'mon, we have not improved these all.[/QUOTE]


We improved at DE thru FA. Hopefully we find a S in 5-7. Peters has a habit of getting great value on late secondary picks. Backup QB? I mean Mariota is an ok backup. Corners will hopefully be helped with scheme and coaching… i have my doubts about BSJ. LT seems to be a major issue but who knows. It certainly is a better roster than last year. Isn’t as doom and gloom as you seem to think. Not as rosy as others think. We are not competing for a championship in 2024 most likely. However Rome wasn’t built in one draft.

My main concern is protecting JD through year one. Anyone who says they aren’t concerned about that is fibbing. Lol

punch it in 04-27-2024 12:25 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1361725]Only pick I don’t get is newton. Reminds me of the Mathis pick a few years ago drafting a surplus of interior when we are deficient elsewhere.[/QUOTE]


As far as ignoring needs yes, as far as comparing him to Mathis coming out no.

Newton is an absolute beast and will be a great and dominant player here. It is crazy he was there at 36. Had to do it.

BaltimoreSkins 04-27-2024 12:29 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
I was just referring to he is a luxury not a direct comparison of the talent.

On aside I did enjoy the analysis of Coleman and his ability to position flex. A part of me had to laugh at that after years of Ron

SkinsGuru 04-27-2024 12:43 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1361626]Love the pick…that dude can fucking play

Great pick[/quote]

Me too!! Best slot corner in the draft by far (maybe the best corner period, it just his size holding him back)!!! He is the smartest DB in the class, has a incredible motor and a ton of heart and will be our starting slot corner for the next 10 years. GREAT PICK!!!

SkinsGuru 04-27-2024 12:50 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=mooby;1361706]This and Sainristil are getting rave reviews everywhere, I haven't seen anybody saying an ill word about either yet. People were calling Sainristil the best player on the best defense in college football last year.

Not gonna lie it feels good to have a GM that can pick these guys in the 2nd/3rd. I'm excited already.[/quote]

If Sainristil was 3+ inches taller he might have been a top 5 pick . . . top 10 minimum!!

nonniey 04-27-2024 01:03 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
So 5th round anyone have any targets/hopes? WHo is dropping? (Ok I'm being lazy years ago I'd know exactly who I'd want but last 4 years my interest level has dropped substantially.

Edit- After a quick survey how about Austin Booker DE (3rd round prospect falling or Jermiah Trotter ILB (4th round prospect)?

Meks 04-27-2024 02:08 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
Don't know much bout this pick. Looks quick, decent in coverage and seemingly can tackle.

CRedskinsRule 04-27-2024 02:16 PM

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nfl writeup[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240427/4813839c04cadbf38f5eac54a3254d90.jpg[/IMG]

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rocnrik 04-27-2024 02:40 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1361718]Nobody is saying it isn’t better than it was (seemingly). What we are saying is it could be even better (seemingly). There is a difference. Lol.

Not hating on any of the picks per say - they will all hopefully and eventually contribute, but man Cooper was there for the taking. Also I feel like he took McCaffrey because of his relationship with his brother and there were some other wr’s there , more than a few, who were rated higher.

Newton is an absolute beast. Almost had to take him at 36. Daniels was obviously the pick at 2. Sansriti is a ball hawk but small and not Dejean. Sinnott is a good blocker and an instant upgrade.

Definitely not hating. I would have stuck with Cooper and would have taken another wr. That is all.[/quote]

if what you are saying is true and you maybe correct it is disturbing that the new regime is not competent and failed to pick cooper and guys on forums no more than they do .. if so welcome to another dismal future with this team .... i however believe they know exactly what they are doing and it will show on the field .. but everyone is entitled to their opinions. this is not a jab at you punch more than me questioning there abilities and the whiff on that pick ..

nonniey 04-27-2024 02:46 PM

Re: Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread
 
[quote=rocnrik;1361736]if what you are saying is true and you maybe correct it is disturbing that the new regime is not competent and failed to pick cooper and guys on forums no more than they do .. if so welcome to another dismal future with this team .... i however believe they know exactly what they are doing and it will show on the field .. but everyone is entitled to their opinions.[/quote]

Just want to point out guys on forums sometimes are in fact superior to actual front offices (and in the cases of Rivera and Cerretto far superior). It is not usually the case but time will tell in this instance. Oh and I really don't have any major issues with the actual picks just one nitpick with the lack of aggressiveness with the opportunity to move up into the 1st.


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