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[quote=MissouriSkin;1287163]Tell the Natives who supported the name and took it as a source of pride that it was “just a logo”. [B]Every Native I know[/B] supported the name and the logo and are angry and heartbroken it’s gone. I wear the logo for them.[/quote]

See this just comes across bad. It comes across like you're a leading expert on NA opinions of the name.

Every Native American I know (which is none) aren't pro-or-against the name. I just have to go by what I see in the media. And I see plenty of the woke mob hating against the name, and I also see polls saying 90% of NA's don't care about the name.

In the end, I move on.

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1287166]I will NOT move on. You’re a piece of shit thinking that you can dictate to others how to feel and what to think over an issue. You a fucking loser to say “just get over it and for what I say. Fuck you and everyone one this board. I’m out.[/quote]

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This is where you draw the line? Terrible.

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[quote=JackLord;1287146]I respectfully submit that you are being unfairly dismissive.

If all a fan has ever known is the Snyder era, it does not make much of a difference. A rose by any other name is just as sweet and a shoddily run franchise with a new name is just as shoddy.

If you are older (me for example), this requires jettisoning a great deal of history that was seen first hand. I have seen the Skins in 5 Super Bowls and numerous playoff appearances. The franchise has basically had 3 periods of glory and I was there for 2 of them.

It's not being a caveman to regret that all of this will either be forgotten or have an asterisk placed next to it. Sentiment, Pride, Nostalgia, etc are not the attributes of cavemen, MTK. Quite the opposite actually.

And of course there will be a lingering sense of grievance that this was unjustified and forced on us.

May the caveman ask why you are so cool with it? Why are you seemingly happy that this happened to us?[/quote]

I’ve been a loyal fan since I was 10 in 1982. Nobody is erasing the history of this team, it’s all still there, it happened. But times change and here we are facing a new era. I’m excited about the future and will always be proud of the past.

The caveman reference is more about the fans that aren’t going to accept the change under any circumstance.

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1287166]I will NOT move on. You’re a piece of shit thinking that you can dictate to others how to feel and what to think over an issue. You a fucking loser to say “just get over it and for what I say. Fuck you and everyone one this board. I’m out.[/quote]

Well this escalated quickly and was totally unnecessary

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I totally understand peoples emotional connection to the team and it’s past glory. It’s part of fandom, their childhood…it’s nostalgic and makes them feel good. I understand how it can feel like some of that is being taken away. I get that perspective and I’m fine with it. Where your skins stuff, wave the redskins banner, shit, sing HTTR loud and proud

But I also totally understand and accept things change and the team has moved on. The team has been terrible for 20 years…it’s time for something new. Change name and let’s get it on. Younger generation don’t remember the past glory so maybe it’s time to start a new legacy? I understand that as well.

I think both sides should accept both views and just respect it. Neither is incorrect

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1287171]I am not talking about wearing the gear, I have lots of jerseys and gear I will wear. I am talking about actively rejecting whatever the new team name and brand will be. I am talking about complaining about the woke instead of supporting the team in its current and future form. Obviously, the jerseys and legacy of the Redskins will always be a part of the team history. This isn't Cleveland becoming the Ravens or Colts moving to Indy. Our team's history is an awesome story and the SB's will stand etched with the Redskins name forever.

Saying someone is wearing a Redskins jersey to honor Native Americans is as ludicrous as the woke statement that Redskins was a slur against them. The Redskins were a football team, changed from the Braves when they moved to Washington. The whole sanctimonious claptrap is just ridiculous.[/quote]

Oh I meant that they'd refer to the team as the Redskins not any new name (especially if WFT is the final choice).

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[quote=MissouriSkin;1287166]I will NOT move on. You’re a piece of shit thinking that you can dictate to others how to feel and what to think over an issue. You a fucking loser to say “just get over it and for what I say. Fuck you and everyone one this board. I’m out.[/quote]

I'm not sure if this was a joke or real....

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1287171]I am not talking about wearing the gear, I have lots of jerseys and gear I will wear. I am talking about actively rejecting whatever the new team name and brand will be. I am talking about complaining about the woke instead of supporting the team in its current and future form. Obviously, the jerseys and legacy of the Redskins will always be a part of the team history. This isn't Cleveland becoming the Ravens or Colts moving to Indy. Our team's history is an awesome story and the SB's will stand etched with the Redskins name forever.

[B]Saying someone is wearing a Redskins jersey to honor Native Americans is as ludicrous as the woke statement that Redskins was a slur against them.[/B] The Redskins were a football team, changed from the Braves when they moved to Washington. The whole sanctimonious claptrap is just ridiculous.[/quote]

I concur with the bold. I don't think it has ever been about honor. Or derision.

The fact of that matter is Indians/Native Americans/Indigenous Peoples are viewed as ... Cool.

The look, the folklore, the myths- it all fascinates us. The examples are endless and not restricted to the dwindling number of team names. And it's not just us. A good chunk of the world shares this fascination.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1287182]I'm not sure if this was a joke or real....[/quote]

I didn't even notice until your post that he told all of us and the board to fuck off lol. I guess I just checked out on that post after the 1st sentence.

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I have naming preferences but I just don't want anything stupid. I'll accept any name above the level of Guadians.

But frankly, they can name the team the Washington Wonder and they will still be my favorite team. I'm in too deep. No way I'll just be able to switch teams and pretend like I really care about them and don't like us. WFT will always be my main chick. No matter what she calls herself.

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I just wish they announce it. I really don't want buy WFT merch if its going to change in a year. Also it is really difficult to google football team you get a ton of shit you don't want.

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At first I thought the ideal change would be something that kept the NA theme (warriors etc) .. then the team says it wants nothing to do with any NA theme .. but the colors are okay , I’m good with that in fact I’ll be glad when the Whole NA thing just goes away .. it’s like breaking up with your girlfriend and she just wants to be friends … yea right it’s best just to go in opposite directions.. I hope that is what happens.. The Whole WFT name was us a tongue and cheek slap in the face to all that pushed the change .. it least that’s my opinion.. I sorta kinda like the Wolf idea ( kinda seems forced) .. I like the Washington Monuments , Washington Freedom, something patriotic .. enough with the animal thing .. I know we got the New England patriots but there is always room for patriotic theme … just a opinion from somebody who’s opinion ain’t worth anything😀🇺🇸

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Washington Woke!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1287197]I didn't even notice until your post that he told all of us and the board to fuck off lol. I guess I just checked out on that post after the 1st sentence.

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I have naming preferences but I just don't want anything stupid. [B]I'll accept any name above the level of Guadians.[/B]

But frankly, they can name the team the Washington Wonder and they will still be my favorite team. I'm in too deep. No way I'll just be able to switch teams and pretend like I really care about them and don't like us. WFT will always be my main chick. No matter what she calls herself.[/quote]

Setting the bar high I see? It is kind of like when you been running around all day doing things that has to be done but are miserable no time to eat and you say f it gas station hot dog sounds pretty good right now

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1287202]Setting the bar high I see? It is kind of like when you been running around all day doing things that has to be done but are miserable no time to eat and you say f it gas station hot dog sounds pretty good right now[/quote]

As long as it's not the gas station sushi.

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[quote=MTK;1287201]Washington Woke![/quote]

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