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[quote=Beemnseven;689060]From that article:



How? A sick, or terminally ill patient wants to be with their partner and that's 'undermining the definition of marriage' ??

I'm so damn sick of the nutcases at Family Research Council I don't know what to do. If only the writer of that article would have told this douchebag Duffy to bury his nose in his bible if he wants to but leave everybody else the F alone.[/quote]

I really don't see why anyone would care who someone wants by their side when they are sick so whats the big deal.

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[quote=firstdown;689028]Please provide some data to back that. You really should read up on stuff because you have no clue what your talking about.[/quote]

Next time I will include quotes from blogs. LOL!!!

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;689074]Next time I will include quotes from blogs. LOL!!![/quote]
The only reason I asked is because for what I have seen and read most foreclosurs are coming from homeowners living in their homes. I'm sure there is some people loosing investment properties but I would think thats a small %. I do know the problem with investors and people buying 2nd homes in FL. was bigger than in most areas. Actually now is the time to buy that 2nd home in FL.

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Those numbers have not been totally forth coming. Those are the numbers that we need right now. When you have cvondos sold out before their finihsed, and now all of them are empty. Interesting.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;689141]Those numbers have not been totally forth coming. Those are the numbers that we need right now. When you have cvondos sold out before their finihsed, and now all of them are empty. Interesting.[/quote]

Back in that market it was very common for the condos or homes to be sold before they were even built. My buddy purchased a home and the contractor took 1 1/2 years to build the house. The market was going crazy and now this home he purchased for 280,000 was now selling for 420,000. He never moved into the house and sold it the same day he colsed on the house and he purchased another home.

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[quote=firstdown;689213]Back in that market it was very common for the condos or homes to be sold before they were even built. My buddy purchased a home and the contractor took 1 1/2 years to build the house. The market was going crazy and now this home he purchased for 280,000 was now selling for 420,000. He never moved into the house and sold it the same day he colsed on the house and he purchased another home.[/quote]

Nice move, but greed caused some people to try that with let's say 5 condos. The lax oversight and subprime loans made the perfect environment so people could do this. Ii know fools who were declaring themsleves millionaires over night. Everybody was getting in the game and it became saturated. When the wheels started coming off those who took the high risk high reward route teeter tottered the damn country.

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Bush owns this for one simple reason. He was relected because of it. He barely won, he took that issue from the Democrats and it was a nice nice political move. Slogan "Ownership Society". A utopia where all people own their own property and get tax breaks for it. Result = deficit hell. We had to borrow more money because the tax cuts left the revenue pool drained and America was spoiled from the tax cuts, just like entitlements make people spoiled also. don't even mentioned the war. He tried to solve the Israeli/Palestinian conflict by taking Iraq out the picture. This blew ozygen on the flame.

Neocons are not good strategists.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;689263]Nice move, but greed caused some people to try that with let's say 5 condos. The lax oversight and subprime loans made the perfect environment so people could do this. Ii know fools who were declaring themsleves millionaires over night. Everybody was getting in the game and it became saturated. When the wheels started coming off those who took the high risk high reward route teeter tottered the damn country.[/quote]

Why do you think all this was done on subprime loans? Many of these people had regular loans its just that he market went flat and they are now stuck with a bad investment that they cannot sell. I also don't remember Bush running on everyone should own a home.

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[url=http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm]Remarks by the President on Homeownership - HUD[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;689853][URL="http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm"]Remarks by the President on Homeownership - HUD[/URL][/quote]


It's official, Bush is definitely not a conservative.

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Welcome all conservatives while yall are tying to relive 1776, I will live for the future. Guess hwo is gonna win? We must unite Earth under one government how else will we achieve Star Trek status. I will gladly help set the stage for the future federation of planets and not live with you Ferengi.

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[quote=Mattyk;689853][URL="http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm"]Remarks by the President on Homeownership - HUD[/URL][/quote]

I know he talked about home ownership JTFan said he based his whole campain off this which I don't remember. He could have I remember it more about finishing the war on terrorism and Iraq.

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Not a fan of this at all:

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/insurance/2010-04-29-healthirs28_CV_N.htm]IRS lacks clout to enforce mandatory health insurance - USATODAY.com[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;564161]Well it seem's that ABC is in Obama's corner [/B]and they will not allow any opposing views to [B]his Socialized health care. They are going to hand pick the audience (might as well say hand pick the questions) and [B]it seems Obama is running ABC now as well. Am I living in China or Iran?[/B]
[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/critics-attack-abc-news-refusing-air-opposing-ads-obamas-health-care-special/]Critics Attack ABC News for Refusing to Air Opposing Ads During Obama's Health Care Special - Political News - FOXNews.com[/url][/quote]


pretty sure you might be living on Pluto.

i'm not reading this thread.

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Rainy,

If you are gonna read through this thread, you may need Obama Care by the end :)