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[quote=nonniey;1346626]Because Trump and MAGA have corrupted the party. That said given historical patterns the Dems wouldn't be calling on Menendez to resign if the modern GOP didn't find itself in the situation with Santos and Trump that they are in. (Dems don't want to undermine their actions against the more important GOP criminal elements by supporting their own criminals which given historical patterns they would have done - ie Ed Kennedy).[/quote]

LOL," historical patterns". We're dealing with now, not a half a century ago. . It's Ted Kennedy.

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[quote=nonniey;1346508]Energy policy can and does effect the price of gas. Biden's anti domestic petroleum policies were one of the key factors in driving up the cost of gas and inflation as a whole over the past three years.[/quote]

OPEC is going into a death spiral – because of China
[url]https://news.yahoo.com/opec-going-death-spiral-because-160000924.html[/url]


Watch what Saudi Arabia does, not what it says.

Saudi and OPEC officials self-evidently do not believe their own claim that world oil demand will keep growing briskly for another generation as if electric vehicles had never been invented, and there was no such thing as the Paris Accord.

OPEC had to slash output last October in order to shore up prices. It had to cut again in April. The Saudis then stunned traders with a unilateral cut of one million barrels a day (b/d) in June.

All told, the OPEC-Russia cartel has had to take 2m b/d of production off the table at a high point in the economic cycle, after China’s post-Covid reopening and at a time when the US economy has been running hot with a fiscal expansion roughly equal to Roosevelt’s world war budget.

That 2m b/d figure happens to be more or less the amount of crude currently being displaced by EV sales worldwide, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Talk of peak oil demand is “withering under scrutiny”, said Saudi Aramco chief, Amin Nasser.

Consumption will ratchet up from 102m b/d to 110m b/d by 2030, and rise further until 2035 before stabilising at a high plateau through to mid-century.

This skips over the awkward detail that EVs are already on track to reach 60pc of total car sales in the world’s biggest car market within two years (not a misprint).

The cartel is being hit from two sides. Petrol and diesel cars are becoming more efficient, gradually displacing 1.4bn vintage models disappearing into the scrap yard. BP says that alone will cut up to a tenth global oil demand by 2040.

With a lag, EVs are now starting to take a material bite, with an S-curve trajectory likely to go parabolic this decade.

China’s EVs sales hit 38pc this summer, even though subsidies have mostly been scrapped. This is far ahead of schedule under Beijing’s New Energy Vehicle Industry Development Plan.

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[quote=Giantone;1346616]Growing Number of Democrat's want Menendez to resign but very few Republics are asking George Santos to leave, why is that?


[url]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kevin-mccarthy-flip-flop-bob-menendez_n_6513430de4b087c523200e9d[/url]



[B]Kevin McCarthy Wanted Bob Menendez To Resign Until Someone Mentioned George Santos
The House speaker wanted the New Jersey senator to resign, but he changed his mind after someone asked why he hadn't asked Santos to do the same[/B].[/quote]

Democrats only support this because Phil is the Democrat governor of Jersey and would replace him with a democrat

That’s literally the only reason Dems are calling for him to resign

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[quote=Chico23231;1346636]Democrats only support this because Phil is the Democrat governor of Jersey and would replace him with a democrat

That’s literally the only reason Dems are calling for him to resign[/quote]

In NJ do you really think it matters? In a special election it would still be a democrat. Still not hearing too much support from Senate democrats

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[quote=Chico23231;1346636]Democrats only support this because Phil is the Democrat governor of Jersey and would replace him with a democrat

That’s literally the only reason Dems are calling for him to resign[/quote]

BS.

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[quote=Giantone;1346630]OPEC is going into a death spiral – because of China
[url]https://news.yahoo.com/opec-going-death-spiral-because-160000924.html[/url]


Watch what Saudi Arabia does, not what it says.

Saudi and OPEC officials self-evidently do not believe their own claim that world oil demand will keep growing briskly for another generation as if electric vehicles had never been invented, and there was no such thing as the Paris Accord.

OPEC had to slash output last October in order to shore up prices. It had to cut again in April. The Saudis then stunned traders with a unilateral cut of one million barrels a day (b/d) in June.

All told, the OPEC-Russia cartel has had to take 2m b/d of production off the table at a high point in the economic cycle, after China’s post-Covid reopening and at a time when the US economy has been running hot with a fiscal expansion roughly equal to Roosevelt’s world war budget.

That 2m b/d figure happens to be more or less the amount of crude currently being displaced by EV sales worldwide, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.
Talk of peak oil demand is “withering under scrutiny”, said Saudi Aramco chief, Amin Nasser.

Consumption will ratchet up from 102m b/d to 110m b/d by 2030, and rise further until 2035 before stabilising at a high plateau through to mid-century.

This skips over the awkward detail that EVs are already on track to reach 60pc of total car sales in the world’s biggest car market within two years (not a misprint).

The cartel is being hit from two sides. Petrol and diesel cars are becoming more efficient, gradually displacing 1.4bn vintage models disappearing into the scrap yard. BP says that alone will cut up to a tenth global oil demand by 2040.

With a lag, EVs are now starting to take a material bite, with an S-curve trajectory likely to go parabolic this decade.

China’s EVs sales hit 38pc this summer, even though subsidies have mostly been scrapped. This is far ahead of schedule under Beijing’s New Energy Vehicle Industry Development Plan.[/quote]

I don't think you understand your whole post supports my point.

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[quote=nonniey;1346667]I don't think you understand your whole post supports my point.[/quote]

Only to you. That's fine I get it, you live in Arizona.


So in your mind Biden made OPEC raise price's not anything China is doing as is pointed out in the artical. ..........cool.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1346636]Democrats only support this because Phil is the Democrat governor of Jersey and would replace him with a democrat

That’s literally the only reason Dems are calling for him to resign[/QUOTE]


Unlike the Maga klan who is only looking out for the good of the Country. At least we replace our scum. You champion them to higher office.

He is a piece of shit Chico. Every dem here will say that. You, on the other hand have never, ever condemned anything your maga virus party has done up to and including a FUCKING ATTEMPTED COUP!!!! One time. Just one time condemn something the hard right does. Anything. Than maybe people will take you seriously. Until then you are nothing but a hypocritical mouthpiece for MAGA.

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[quote=Giantone;1346669]Only to you. That's fine I get it, you live in Arizona.


So in your mind Biden made OPEC raise price's not anything China is doing as is pointed out in the artical. ..........cool.[/quote]

Man you are dense. If Biden hadn't throttled US production, OPECs ability to raise prices would have been and would be seriously limited.

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[quote=nonniey;1346673]Man you are dense. If Biden hadn't throttled US production, OPECs ability to raise prices would have been and would be seriously limited.[/quote]

LOL, BS! Again you ignore the artical and what China and Russia are doing but we get it you make up shit and blame Biden.

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Fetterman is such a fucking retard they had a pass a dress code so he would stop embarrassing the house.

Oh I’m sure he will go and be sad about it.

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HuffPost
[B]Some Attendees At Donald Trump's Autoworkers Speech Were Total Frauds: Report
[/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/entertainment/attendees-donald-trumps-autoworkers-rally-110155606.html[/url]


Some attendees at Donald Trump’s speech about the autoworkers’ strike Wednesday apparently were shills carrying signs falsely identifying them as union members, the Detroit News reported.

One person held a sign that said “union members for Trump,” but admitted to the newspaper she was not a union member. Another carried a placard with the words “auto workers for Trump” and confessed he was not an auto worker when the outlet requested an interview. Neither identified themselves.

Trump visited Michigan to show solidarity with striking United Auto Workers members, but instead stoked fear about electric cars to the crowd at a nonunion auto parts supplier. He warned workers that they would be out of a job in a few years, even if they secured sought-after salary increases.

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[quote=Chico23231;1346694]Fetterman is such a fucking retard they had a pass a dress code so he would stop embarrassing the house.

Oh I’m sure he will go and be sad about it.[/quote]

They removed dress code and then reinstated it. It was dumb to lift the dress code to begin with.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1346705]They removed dress code and then reinstated it. It was dumb to lift the dress code to begin with.[/quote]

Schumer misjudged on that. He probably thought people would fall in line and making it a purely partisan play (My team versus their team). Glad to see that didn't happen for what seems like the first time in years. Maybe there is some hope for our Republic after all.

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The maga infested republicans made absolute fools of themselves at their impeachment inquiry. Maybe they should concentrate on avoiding a shutdown. What an absolute clown show they are.

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[quote=Giantone;1346503][url]https://news.yahoo.com/fact-sake-president-does-not-164658259.html[/url]


NBC
For Fact’s Sake: The president does not set the price of gas


Republican presidential candidate and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis fed his supporters a false promise: that he would deliver $2 gas if he wins in 2024. For Fact’s Sake, Ali Velshi explains why the president of this country does not have the power to tip the scales of the global oil market. No matter how much Ron DeSantis cries "woke" over President Joe Biden’s energy policy, $2 gas isn’t going to happen just because he says so.[/quote]

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-proposes-plan-hold-fewest-offshore-oil-drilling-leases-us-history[/url]

Biden admin proposes plan to hold fewest offshore oil drilling leases in US history
Biden admin proposes three oil and gas lease sales in the Gulf of Mexico, but rejects possible Alaska sale

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Bowman’s office said it was an accident, and the congressman told reporters later Saturday: “I was trying to get to a door. I thought the alarm would open the door and I pulled the fire alarm to open the door by accident.”

Imagine someone actually believing this…clearly marked fire alarm


[url]https://nypost.com/2023/09/30/rep-jamaal-bowman-pulled-fire-alarm-as-shutdown-looms/[/url]

Socialist Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulls fire alarm as Dems try to delay vote on GOP stopgap spending bill

Democrats clearly trying to shutdown the government

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[quote=nonniey;1346626]Because Trump and MAGA have corrupted the party. That said given historical patterns the Dems wouldn't be calling on Menendez to resign if the modern GOP didn't find itself in the situation with Santos and Trump that they are in. (Dems don't want to undermine their actions against the more important GOP criminal elements by supporting their own criminals which given historical patterns they would have done - ie Ted Kennedy).[/quote]

You're overthinking this nonniey. It is so fucking simple - he's got history with previous charges against him, his house is chock full of bribery payouts, he's the head of the Senate foreign relations committee so he holds tremendous influence. There's more red flags here than in China. If he's guilty (which I believe he is) he needs to be locked up and removed from office. [B][I][U]It's that simple. [/U][/I][/B] Corrupt politicians are bad. Don't overthink this.

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Side note: The federal government typically doesn't bring charges in cases it can't win. So if you get indicted by the feds, there's a really good chance you're guilty.

[url]https://www.justsecurity.org/88890/the-ongoing-national-security-threats-posed-by-senator-bob-menendez/[/url]

Good read on what a liability it is for Menendez to remain in office. He's gotta go.

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[quote=mooby;1346791]You're overthinking this nonniey. It is so fucking simple - he's got history with previous charges against him, his house is chock full of bribery payouts, he's the head of the Senate foreign relations committee so he holds tremendous influence. There's more red flags here than in China. If he's guilty (which I believe he is) he needs to be locked up and removed from office. [B][I][U]It's that simple. [/U][/I][/B] Corrupt politicians are bad. Don't overthink this.[/quote]

Not really over thinking this at all. The first time he got indicted the Dems supported him even reelected him - now switch to today different circumstance. The thing I hate with what has happened to the GOP is they used to not elect/reelect/support their criminals when it became known they were criminals - that was a Dem thing to do. Trump and MAGA changed all that (to such a degree that it is mind boggling). (Examples would be Ollie North - lost enough GOP support that he lost in Red Virginia at the time, Nixon - H Baker and other GOPs politicians told him to resign or they would support impeachment).

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delete dup post (accidently quoted self instead of edit choice.

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[quote=nonniey;1346797]Not really over thinking this at all. The first time he got indicted the Dems supported him even reelected him - now switch to today different circumstance. The thing I hate with what has happened to the GOP is they used to not elect/reelect/support their criminals when it became known they were criminals - that was a Dem thing to do. Trump and MAGA changed all that (to such a degree that it is mind boggling). (Examples would be Ollie North - lost enough GOP support that he lost in Red Virginia at the time, Nixon - H Baker and other GOPs politicians told him to resign or they would support impeachment).[/quote]

I wouldn't know because that was 8 years ago, which is approximately 40 years in my timeline of politics.

For me it's simple. Corrupt politicians need to be removed from office and put in jail. He's corrupt. Proceed accordingly.

Also apparently 27 other Democratic senators have called for his resignation. That's approximately 25 more than conservative senators that have flipped on Trump.

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[url]https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/toilet-paper-mega-brand-introduces-cutting-edge-design-find-out-what[/url]

Toilet paper mega-brand introduces ‘cutting edge’ design: Find out what it is

Charmin announces a new feature that's been in the works for five years, the company said

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Imagine dedicating 5 years of your life to R&D and that is your legacy.

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History of toilet paper is so .. human. 1800s people wouldnt dare acknowledge that they pooped so no one would talk about it.

We would take newspapers in the toilet to wipe. Or sticks or cloth or moss or communal sponges on ends of sticks.

Then a newspaper started adding just empty pages.

Two brothers (Scott) started selling toilet paper on rolls in stores but everyone was too embarrassed to be seen buying them. So no one bough them.

Hotels started placing toilet paper rolls in their lobby bathrooms and suddenly everyone just so happened to need to take a poop when near a hotel lobby.

Flush toilets were starting to be introduced as well and the thicker newspaper would clog the pipes so as flush toilets became a household item .. so did the thinner softer toilet paper roll.

------------

beautiful human vanity to it all

To embarrassed to acknowledge that one poops .. so we all walked around with dingleberries and shit stained underwear.

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I am all for talking about pooping but if I am spending 5 years it is going to be on a TP that kills crabs when you use a public toilet not wavy perforations.

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[quote=SunnySide;1347385]History of toilet paper is so .. human. 1800s people wouldnt dare acknowledge that they pooped so no one would talk about it.

We would take newspapers in the toilet to wipe. Or sticks or cloth or moss or communal sponges on ends of sticks.

Then a newspaper started adding just empty pages.

Two brothers (Scott) started selling toilet paper on rolls in stores but everyone was too embarrassed to be seen buying them. So no one bough them.

Hotels started placing toilet paper rolls in their lobby bathrooms and suddenly everyone just so happened to need to take a poop when near a hotel lobby.

Flush toilets were starting to be introduced as well and the thicker newspaper would clog the pipes so as flush toilets became a household item .. so did the thinner softer toilet paper roll.

------------

beautiful human vanity to it all

To embarrassed to acknowledge that one poops .. so we all walked around with dingleberries and shit stained underwear.[/quote]

Communal sponges?? Thats nasty!!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1347391]Communal sponges?? Thats nasty!![/quote]

Clearly you have never been to the orgy tent at Burning Man

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Congress is ran by children. That is all I really have.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1347403]Congress is ran by children. That is all I really have.[/quote]

You're just realizing that?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1347403]Congress is ran by children. That is all I really have.[/quote]

[YT]TR810psE18c[/YT]




There are some pissed off republicans!

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCPBwX15b987EHvblTyFFtuvDEOi2b1iUNaWUtv_pQgmSHiV2kerZARTxjIdeNE6Upy2E&usqp=CAU[/IMG]

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I am not a fan of McCarthy however that being said I would prefer having a congress that will actually work to passing a spending bill for the 2 million civilian workers instead of the BS that is going to happen. I don't know what the Democrats end game was here. They missed a golden opportunity to say they are supporting a congress that will get things done instead of throwing it to chaos. On the republican side Gaetz will be disappointed when he sees that a 14 year old girl isn't going to be elected speaker.

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Gaetz Halloween "Costume":

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/MRdw8H9AJM3Ll3lYNy/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952v540cn7vvxner1mfiy44dt4z68ypqld4qgks19dj&ep=v1_stickers_related&rid=giphy.gif&ct=s[/IMG]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1347414]I am not a fan of McCarthy however that being said I would prefer having a congress that will actually work to passing a spending bill for the 2 million civilian workers instead of the BS that is going to happen. I don't know what the Democrats end game was here. They missed a golden opportunity to say they are supporting a congress that will get things done instead of throwing it to chaos. On the republican side Gaetz will be disappointed when he sees that a 14 year old girl isn't going to be elected speaker.[/quote]

My guess, the Dems want to watch the republican's implode. kinda like the divide and conquer thing. You never know they might vote for Jordan and all the sex abuse shit will start up again about when he was a wrestling Coach.

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That is what I mean they would rather play games with their friends across the aisle than get shit done.

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Congress is a total shit show and Republicans are the ones driving the short bus

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[quote=Chico23231;1346694]Fetterman is such a fucking retard they had a pass a dress code so he would stop embarrassing the house.

Oh I’m sure he will go and be sad about it.[/quote]


[IMG]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/sinema-dress-246-1.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1347300][url]https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/toilet-paper-mega-brand-introduces-cutting-edge-design-find-out-what[/url]

Toilet paper mega-brand introduces ‘cutting edge’ design: Find out what it is

Charmin announces a new feature that's been in the works for five years, the company said[/quote]

Wonder if we'll ever evolve past wiping dead trees on our asses.

I need to get a bidet installed someday, seems much more civilized.

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[quote=MTK;1347426][IMG]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/02/sinema-dress-246-1.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

She looks like someone about to go to a night-club trying to seek attention. She's got some nice chest talent lol.

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[quote=MTK;1347427]Wonder if we'll ever evolve past wiping dead trees on our asses.

I need to get a bidet installed someday, seems much more civilized.[/quote]

We need to go directly to the source and evolve past having to shit at all. C'mon, its 2023 people, let's get it together. I'd have to find somewhere else to get some reading done.