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[quote=firstdown;952934]Where have you been. I could start with Sandra Fluke.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Fluke]Sandra Fluke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/quote]

Sure. I can pull up many conservative fear mongers wanting to go to war with Iran/Iraq/Syria....and others. THEY MIGHT BOMB US GUYS SO LETS DRIVE THE COUNTRY BROKE TO PROTECT OURSELVES.

Stalemate. (again)


As I said, I pay for shit that I don't want to pay for and it covers a larger percentage of the budget than you having to pay for abortion/birth control. Just like the typical GOPer. Bitching about a penny while thousands of dollars are swindled right out the back door.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952936]As I said, I pay for shit that I don't want to pay for and it covers a larger percentage of the budget than you having to pay for abortion/birth control. Just like the typical GOPer. Bitching about a penny while thousands of dollars are swindled right out the back door.[/quote]Providing for National Defense is part of the Constitution. Providing for birth control and abortions is not....Checkmate.

If we collectively don't provide for defense, we will be invaded and will have no freedom. If federal tax dollars do not provide for birth control/abortion, women who desire these services can pay for them out-of-pocket. Just like I have to pay out-of-pocket for my personal firearms.

The Declaration of Independence provides for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and also states we are endowed by our Creator with those rights. Why shouldn't the government protect these rights for the most vulnerable....the unborn? Typical far left lib....provide cradle to grave nanny state services for all in the name of "fairness"....yet advocate for the gov't funding of infanticide.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;952941]Providing for[U] National Defense[/U] is part of the Constitution. Providing for birth control and abortions is not....Checkmate.

If we collectively don't provide for defense, we will be invaded and will have no freedom. If federal tax dollars do not provide for birth control/abortion, women who desire these services can pay for them out-of-pocket. Just like I have to pay out-of-pocket for my personal firearms.
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I'm sorry. How many trillions of dollars have we spent on military and how many countries have invaded us? Yeah....I didn't think so. I have no problem spending money on a defense to secure our borders, NOT fight in countries and on situations that have nothing to do with us. We are broke because of our war/military budget, NOT because of birth control and abortions. Again, you are crying about pennies when trillions are being robbed over failed moronic foreign policies.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952946]I'm sorry. [B]How many trillions of dollars have we spent on military and how many countries have invaded us? [/B]Yeah....I didn't think so. I have no problem spending money on a defense to secure our borders, NOT fight in countries and on situations that have nothing to do with us. We are broke because of our war/military budget, NOT because of birth control and abortions. Again, you are crying about pennies when trillions are being robbed over failed moronic foreign policies.[/quote]

You answered your own argument. Look I'm all for cutting back defense spending along with everthing else. My point was not about spending my point was they define womens rights as things other pay for.

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[quote=firstdown;952822]How come a womans rights are me paying for their birth controls and abortions?[/quote]



....so no women pays anything,nothing,not taxes,nada?

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/senate-democrats-lose-five-more-states-shift-172719794.html]The Senate is the Democrats’ to lose as five more states shift | The Signal - Yahoo! News[/url]

Instead of voting in Democrats, they should be voting in non-partisan people who don't answer to corporate America.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;952984][url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/senate-democrats-lose-five-more-states-shift-172719794.html]The Senate is the Democrats’ to lose as five more states shift | The Signal - Yahoo! News[/url]

Instead of voting in Democrats, they should be voting in non-partisan people who don't answer to corporate America.[/QUOTE]

Anyone else wish they let the libertarian and green candidates participate in the presidential debate.

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[quote=NC_Skins;952984][url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/senate-democrats-lose-five-more-states-shift-172719794.html]The Senate is the Democrats’ to lose as five more states shift | The Signal - Yahoo! News[/url]

[B]Instead of voting in Democrats, they should be voting in non-partisan people who don't answer to corporate America[/B].[/quote]

So... don't vote?

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[quote=Daseal;953021]So... don't vote?[/quote]

They have people on the ballot that don't answer to Corporate America.

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Heres another tits up company Obama gave money to.
Nice job, Barry!

[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-16/electric-car-battery-maker-a123-systems-files-bankruptcy.html?cmpid=yhoo]Electric Car Battery Maker A123 Systems Files Bankruptcy - Bloomberg[/url]

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If I heard correctly they never even produced a battery. CEO's and the top exicutives were pulling in around 500 k each with bonus. When you have no skin in the game things like this happen.

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What a tool bag.

[url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57532807/charity-president-paul-ryan-did-nothing-at-soup-kitchen-photo-op/]Charity president: Paul Ryan "did nothing" at soup kitchen photo-op - CBS News[/url]

[YT]M2WVJNxOpvY[/YT]

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[URL="http://www.romneytaxplan.com/"]Surely this is the most brilliant thing ever[/URL].

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[quote=NC_Skins;953151]What a tool bag.


[YT]M2WVJNxOpvY[/YT][/quote]From your link:

"Brian Antal, meanwhile, has [URL="http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/16/14485409-ryan-did-wash-dirty-dishes-during-soup-kitchen-visit"][COLOR=#000080]rescinded his claim [/COLOR][/URL]from Monday that Ryan did not clean any dirty dishes. He told NBC News he had been erroneously told that was the case by a volunteer. The Washington Post [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/16/brian-antal-paul-ryan-critic-has-voted-in-democratic-primaries/"][COLOR=#000080]reported[/COLOR][/URL] Tuesday that Antal has voted in Democratic primaries since at least 1995."

Tool bag....hmmm?

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[quote=saden1;953306][URL="http://www.romneytaxplan.com/"]Surely this is the most brilliant thing ever[/URL].[/quote]That's pretty damn funny.

The DNC has some bright folks.....just none on the current ticket :cool-smil