Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

campbell had a pretty solid game, i really liked his poise, scrambling ability and the way he threw on the run like the last touchdown, if we had any kind of defense and a running game we would have won pretty easy. he should have like 26-34 with 200+ yards but the recivers dropped alot of passes.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Redskins_P;249081]I saw that too. Rogers is really starting to irritate me. The guy doesn't even seem focused.

Maybe thats why I see him all the time in Tysons taking shots in Coastal Flats.....[/QUOTE]

The worst was when he let up on the corner blitz. He had a clear path to the QB and just stopped

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=That Guy;249072]in the eagles game:
6 punts, 3 points, 1 int (16/31, 132yrds, 0 tds) - with moss + portis + almost 150 yards on the ground

vs TB:
5 punts, 20 points, 0 ints (19/34, 196yrds, 2 tds) - w/o moss/portis and under 70 rushing yards.

so, by every metric it was better than [B]what finally got brunell benched[/B]. campbell's stats were also better than brunells in the dallas game (yards, tds, turnovers), and again, brunell had portis and a running game.[/quote]If we are looking at the average Brunell game, or the expectation for him, why on earth would you look at the Eagle game (our worst game this year as a team, bar none)? Everyone was horrible. Campbell would have been awful in that game too. Just add it to Brunell's season average and move on.

Campbell's Yards/Attempt Sunday was [B][U]more than a yard below[/U][/B] Brunell's season average. If he completes the pass to Lloyd, it would be very close...but drops/nice defensive plays don't count on Brunell's stats either.

Campbell did very well, all things considered. But just looking at the TB game and nothing but the TB game, I think Brunell would have done better. Good enough to overcome the defense? I doubt it, in which case we made the right move with the QB change.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=charlielyons;249082]he should have like 26-34 with 200+ yards but the recivers dropped alot of passes.[/quote]Well, he's gotta play with the deck he's been handed. A lot of things have gone wrong for us this year, maybe the least of which is receiver play, but Randle El and Lloyd and even Cooley have dropped some balls this year, for both quarterbacks now.

We were promised a mystical "spark" this week to help our receivers hands not be so hard, and help them try harder...but I guess that didn't happen.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;249044]So if you look at the situation in a vaccuum, Jason Campbell vs. Mark Brunell this year, this team, we only have one Campbell performance to grade, [B]but it was below what you would have expected from Mark Brunell[/B].[/QUOTE]

Maybe below your expectations, but I think everyone else would have expected Brunell to play worse.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=GTripp0012;249108]If we are looking at the average Brunell game, or the expectation for him, why on earth would you look at the Eagle game (our worst game this year as a team, bar none)? Everyone was horrible. Campbell would have been awful in that game too. Just add it to Brunell's season average and move on.

Campbell's Yards/Attempt Sunday was [B][U]more than a yard below[/U][/B] Brunell's season average. If he completes the pass to Lloyd, it would be very close...but drops/nice defensive plays don't count on Brunell's stats either.

Campbell did very well, all things considered. But just looking at the TB game and nothing but the TB game, I think Brunell would have done better. Good enough to overcome the defense? I doubt it, in which case we made the right move with the QB change.[/quote]

so a small sample set is fine with campbell, but not brunell? should we compare this to brunell's last game against the bucs, since it's more apples to apples? cause that makes him look SO much better.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;249110]Well, he's gotta play with the deck he's been handed. A lot of things have gone wrong for us this year, maybe the least of which is receiver play, but Randle El and Lloyd and even Cooley have dropped some balls this year, for both quarterbacks now.

We were promised a mystical "spark" this week to help our receivers hands not be so hard, and help them try harder...but I guess that didn't happen.[/QUOTE]

Cooley didn't drop the TD pass he improvised and came back to Campbell for. that ball would've been in the stands if it were Mark. same with the clutch 3rd down pass to Thrash. they stayed trying to make the play instead of expecting a throw out of bounds once the play broke down. i'd call that a spark, and thats why we're talking about JC like this today.

i also don't see any 'statistical' reason for you to assume that Campbell would've been just as bad or worse than Mark was in Philly.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

why the hell are you defending brunell anyways?

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

brunell would of had 4 of 26 for 25 yards. no joke

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

Campbell did provide a spark, and I really liked what I saw of him. good move for the QB switch. Definately a bright spot in a VERY DARK season. However, in spite of it, we did not win the game. Because................neither Campbell, nor Brunell play D

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Hog1;249143]Campbell did provide a spark, and I really liked what I saw of him. good move for the QB switch. Definately a bright spot in a VERY DARK season. However, in spite of it, we did not win the game. Because................neither Campbell, nor Brunell play D[/QUOTE]

Well put. That really sums it up.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=illdefined;249117]Cooley didn't drop the TD pass he improvised and came back to Campbell for. that ball would've been in the stands if it were Mark. same with the clutch 3rd down pass to Thrash. they stayed trying to make the play instead of expecting a throw out of bounds once the play broke down. i'd call that a spark, and thats why we're talking about JC like this today.

i also don't see any 'statistical' reason for you to assume that Campbell would've been just as bad or worse than Mark was in Philly.[/quote]
No shit....that ball would have been 15 rows in the stands had that been Markie Mark...

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=That Guy;249115]so a small sample set is fine with campbell, but not brunell? should we compare this to brunell's last game against the bucs, since it's more apples to apples? cause that makes him look SO much better.[/quote]No, you look at Brunell's per game average because those numbers are more accurately what you expect from Brunell over the course of the game, and compare that to Campbell's performance against Tampa Bay. You can't make any generalization with that, but you can say that he was either better or worse than what you'd expect if Brunell started.

A small sample set is never a good thing, but in the case of Campbell, it's all you have.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=dall-assblows;249125]brunell would of had 4 of 26 for 25 yards. no joke[/quote]Brunell would have been 34-35 for 479 and 5 TDs.

Yes, talking out of your ass does waste time.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

i thought jason did really well for himself on his first start he's gonna be a good one...now the question is does the redskins organization have the patience to let him mature into a fully well rounded starter?