Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[quote=jsarno;260240]Let me paint a picture for you.
1995, KC 13-3, great team, lost first round. 12th offense, 1st defense.
1997, KC 13-3, great team, lost first round. 6th offense, 1st defense.
2004, SD 12-4, great team, lost first round. 3rd offense, 11th defense.

ps- they are 1st in offense, and 12th in defense this year.

By the way, those were the last 3 years his team made a playoff appearance. He's 5-12 in career playoff games.
Marty is a choker.[/quote]

Marty got the shaft in Washington. Just when he was turning the corner with this bunch of overpaid underacheiving misfits, Snyder pulled the rug from under his feet and hired the Old Ball Coach Spurrier. What a disaster. I would rather keep going to the playoffs every year and choking as opposed to never making the playoffs with the Old Ball Coach.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[quote=NM Redskin;260097]Here is why we don't need a GM: Rocky McIntosh, Kedrick Golston,Carlos Rogers,Jason Campbell,Sean Taylor,Chris Cooley. I think the Front office has made pretty darn good picks. Before that we hadn't had a good draft since 2000.[/quote]
This is over three years , and to get these players we used {4 }1st rd picks , {4} 2nd rd picks , a third , a 4th , one 5th & 6th rd pick . Most gms would have built a complete defence with that many hight picks . We have paid 10's of millions more in signing bonus's than our division opp's and we have maybe one pick in the upcoming drafts first 4 rounds . That does not included the $$$$'s and 6 draft picks invested in Brunnell ,Loyd & M. White . Since letting Pierce walk , we have spent 6 draft picks on Lb's , if they don't think they need to change ,,, are we going to see a change in the team we see on the field ?

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[quote=jsarno;260230]That was the true dumb move. Marty is a career postseason choker. I hope San Diego isn't expecting anything.[/quote] So Marty is 10 - 2 , has a loaded roster , is about 12 million under the cap , a draft full of picks ,,,,, we are 4 - 8 , very little cap room , no depth at OL , a weak secondary , poor pass rush and very few draft picks ,,, but Marty is the " dumb " one . He had our cap in order . And having to ask your players to restructure every year is risky . Does anyone think that guys like CP , S. Taylor are going to stay here if we keep losing , when they can hit F/A , get big bucks from a team that is improving ? Hope like hell that JC is an awsome qb next year !

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[QUOTE=hail_2_da_skins;260326]Marty got the shaft in Washington. Just when he was turning the corner with this bunch of overpaid underacheiving misfits, Snyder pulled the rug from under his feet and hired the Old Ball Coach Spurrier. What a disaster. I would rather keep going to the playoffs every year and choking as opposed to never making the playoffs with the Old Ball Coach.[/QUOTE]

I will not deny that the rug was pulled out from under him...but EVERYONE hated him, including the soft spoken Darryl Green. Nuff said.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

Hey, nothin wrong with wearing a jersey on game day or to the stadium, but when you wear one out in public during the week it just seems gay to me...not that theres anything wrong with that, but IMO it just doesn't seem right. Game day, good, out on a date with the wife, bad.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[QUOTE=budw38;260338]So Marty is 10 - 2 , has a loaded roster , is about 12 million under the cap , a draft full of picks ,,,,, we are 4 - 8 , very little cap room , no depth at OL , a weak secondary , poor pass rush and very few draft picks ,,, but Marty is the " dumb " one . He had our cap in order . And having to ask your players to restructure every year is risky . Does anyone think that guys like CP , S. Taylor are going to stay here if we keep losing , when they can hit F/A , get big bucks from a team that is improving ? Hope like hell that JC is an awsome qb next year ![/QUOTE]

Who said Marty was "dumb"? I said letting Marvin Lewis go was dumb...and Marty was a choke artist.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[QUOTE=paulskinsfan;260349]Hey, nothin wrong with wearing a jersey on game day or to the stadium, but when you wear one out in public during the week it just seems gay to me...not that theres anything wrong with that, but IMO it just doesn't seem right. Game day, good, out on a date with the wife, bad.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. If the wife and I go out to eat somewhere, I wear appropriate clothing, however, if we're heading to Wal-Mart, a jersey goes on.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[quote=TAFKAS;260219]What do you mean? He should have fired Spurrier after one year and moved Lewis to head coach?[/quote]

No. He should have just hired Marvin Lewis to begin with.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[quote=jsarno;260350]Who said Marty was "dumb"? I said letting Marvin Lewis go was dumb...and Marty was a choke artist.[/quote] My bad . I like Gibbs , just wish we had a GM , or would stop trading so many draft picks away . Keep wearing that jersey , I acually have a Sunny Jurgenson #9 jersey , have had that thing for 30 years . Just of note , the Jersey is just about too small for me to wear , but of course I have # 44 .

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Czabe's article was right on the money. I still think people are blinded by Gibbs 1.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[QUOTE=jsarno;260350]Who said Marty was "dumb"? I said letting Marvin Lewis go was dumb...and Marty was a choke artist.[/QUOTE]

Why is that? He ended his one season with the Redskins at 8-8...after starting 0-5. Snyder should've given him a couple more years, I think he would've had the team playing at the level as what he has San Diego playing at now. Of course, I'm happy we have Joe Gibbs, but firing Marty in favor for Steve Spurrier was a bone-headed move!

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Yeah, with a pattycake schedule in the second half. I loved him because he showed no respect to Darrell Green, got rid of a lot of the long-time coaches and replaced them with his family, and he got rid of players who "didn't fit his system". (E.g. Larry Centers, James Thrash)(Mike Sellers also left that year, but I don't know Marty's line on that one.)

And you knew if you were behind the game was lost. He looks better now because he "opened up the offense" in San Diego this year. This may be because he's seeing what Brees can do in New Orleans without a straightjacket on him. And until this year, San Diego was a team that always "underperformed." I'm glad he got rid of Mr. Schittenheinie.

[quote=JDALY27;260212]I'm a Gibbs guy but the worst move Snyder made was years back. He fired Marty after 1 year. He started 0-5 and finished 8-8. With TONY BANKS!!!!! Fired him for Spurrier, horrible move.[/quote]

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[QUOTE=mike340;260389]Yeah, with a pattycake schedule in the second half. I loved him because he showed no respect to Darrell Green, got rid of a lot of the long-time coaches and replaced them with his family, and he got rid of players who "didn't fit his system". (E.g. Larry Centers, James Thrash)(Mike Sellers also left that year, but I don't know Marty's line on that one.)

And you knew if you were behind the game was lost. He looks better now because he "opened up the offense" in San Diego this year. This may be because he's seeing what Brees can do in New Orleans without a straightjacket on him. And until this year, San Diego was a team that always "underperformed." I'm glad he got rid of Mr. Schittenheinie.[/QUOTE]

Well, in the NFL, it's any given Sunday, and Patty cake schedule or not, Shotty got the job done the second half of the year. Like him or not, choosing Spurrier was a bad move.

Re: Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;260388]Why is that? He ended his one season with the Redskins at 8-8...after starting 0-5. Snyder should've given him a couple more years, I think he would've had the team playing at the level as what he has San Diego playing at now. Of course, I'm happy we have Joe Gibbs, but firing Marty in favor for Steve Spurrier was a bone-headed move![/QUOTE]

Well, hindsight is 20/20. We all were thrilled about Spurrier, and most of us were happy to get rid of Marty. He had several issues. If Darryl Green said he was a cancer to the team, then I tend to believe Mr. Green.

If you're asking why Marty is a choke artist, please go back one page and view my post on his stats on his playoff record.