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skinsfan69 04-28-2008 10:16 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
[quote=BDBohnzie;445122]A solid B. At first, I couldn't understand why 2 WRs and a pass catching TE were taken with the first 3 picks, when I thought OL and DL depth were more important, but it was picked up, as well as secondary depth. The Brennan pick is interesting, and if it works out, will be a great asset to have him learn from Campbell and Collins.[/quote]

I'm looking at it this way. We need to score more points and that's the bottom line. We don't have enough playmakers on offense and by drafting these three guys they could help us score more points. I think everyone can agree that we need more playmakers on offense. Right?

Stuck in TX 04-28-2008 10:18 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
Draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. gave us a B+. That is tied with the Browns and Cowboys for the second best draft grade. The Chiefs got the only A.

Jake2008 04-28-2008 10:22 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
C. The lines needed to be addressed. If JC doesn't have time to throw, then it doesn't matter if we lined up Owens, Chad Johnson and Marvin Harrison. I liked the Devin Thomas pick and that addressed a need, but I would have gone with an offensive or defensive line pick with at least one of the other two 2nd round pics if not both. TE is a strength for us and finding a 2nd TE for the west coast offense is alot easier then finding a pass rushing DE or dominant offensive lineman.

irish 04-28-2008 10:23 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
Of all the needs the Skins have WR is not one of them. I like drafting the OL and the punter. The Skins had a golden opportunity and didnt fully optimise their chances. Someday they will realize you build a team from the inside out.

MTK 04-28-2008 10:34 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
WR was not a need coming off last year? Wow.

hail_2_da_skins 04-28-2008 10:39 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
B - Overall, the Redskins had a very solid draft. I was a little worried when they traded out of the first round when quality players were still available, but their calculated move panned out and they not only got the player they wanted, Malcolm Kelly but Devin Thomas fell into their lap. Two moves that were questionable to me, 1) selecting a tight end and 2) selecting a punter. Both players they selected were the best at their positions but offensive line and defensive line were more pressing needs. Eventually they addressed most of their needs and only time will tell whether these picks were great or mediocre.

Players I Really Like:
Devin Thomas WR Michigan State
Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
Colt Brennan QB Hawaii

GTripp0012 04-28-2008 10:39 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
Well, I agree with Irish on one thing, that the most critical need at WR was a no. 1 type guy who had the speed, but was also established in college, and who would develop into the leader of the Skins receiving corps.

We didn't draft a guy like that, simply because there wasn't really anyone like that in the draft. We drafted a pair of number two receivers, to pair with our pair of already number two receivers on the roster.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to like about the strategy of picking out the critical need and just killing it. I particularly like the reasoning that "we needed to improve our red zone offense" as opposed to "we need a wide receiver". We just landed a pair of mid level players, which is fine for where they were drafted, but neither will develop into a "true number one".

We are going to regret not cashing in big on this 2nd round, though I think Malcolm Kelly and Santana will make a nice tandem from 2009-on.

memphisskin 04-28-2008 10:53 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;445155]Well, I agree with Irish on one thing, that the most critical need at WR was a no. 1 type guy who had the speed, but was also established in college, and who would develop into the leader of the Skins receiving corps.

We didn't draft a guy like that, simply because there wasn't really anyone like that in the draft. We drafted a pair of number two receivers, to pair with our pair of already number two receivers on the roster.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to like about the strategy of picking out the critical need and just killing it. I particularly like the reasoning that "we needed to improve our red zone offense" as opposed to "we need a wide receiver". We just landed a pair of mid level players, which is fine for where they were drafted, but neither will develop into a "true number one".[/QUOTE]

There's no way of knowing whether either of the two wideouts we drafted will develop into #1 guys, but they both have the size and ability to do just that. Now it depends on coaching and putting them into positions to succeed, something we haven't excelled at recently (see Lloyd, Brandon).

If we're going to see what Campbell has, then we've got to get him weapons. I think that's what this draft was all about.

MTK 04-28-2008 10:55 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
LOL none of these guys have strapped on a Redskins helmet yet and people already know how their careers are going to go. Hilarious.

Lilman52 04-28-2008 11:18 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
At frist I was a bit upset with us not taking a top tier DL help but after I had time to mual it over it was a solid draft. B+

GTripp0012 04-28-2008 11:19 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
Who said that they "know how their careers are going to go"?

MTK 04-28-2008 11:24 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
[quote=GTripp0012;445175]Who said that they "know how their careers are going to go"?[/quote]

Didn't you just say neither will develop into a #1 WR?

EXoffender 04-28-2008 11:24 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
Many will question drafting both players: Fred Davis and Malcolm Kelly, after drafting Devin Thomas. But just you also need quality backup at the TE position too. If Merling is available and is ranked on our board just just lower than Davis or Kelly, we would've likely selected Merling because it's not much of a reach. Ther's no question that Merling is a better prospect (for our scheme) than Calais Campbell.

skinsfan69 04-28-2008 11:27 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
[quote=GTripp0012;445155]Well, I agree with Irish on one thing, that the most critical need at WR was a no. 1 type guy who had the speed, but was also established in college, and who would develop into the leader of the Skins receiving corps.

We didn't draft a guy like that, simply because there wasn't really anyone like that in the draft. We drafted a pair of number two receivers, to pair with our pair of already number two receivers on the roster.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to like about the strategy of picking out the critical need and just killing it. I particularly like the reasoning that "we needed to improve our red zone offense" as opposed to "we need a wide receiver". We just landed a pair of mid level players, which is fine for where they were drafted, but neither will develop into a "true number one".

We are going to regret not cashing in big on this 2nd round, though I think Malcolm Kelly and Santana will make a nice tandem from 2009-on.[/quote]

Don't you think you're being a little too tough on Kelly and Thomas? Kelly did start all 4 years at Ok. That's pretty damn impressive if you ask me. Don't you think so? How many wr's start all 4 years at a top college program? No many, if any at all. Right now it's just too early to tell if these guys are #1's or #2's.

davelavarra 04-28-2008 11:31 AM

Re: Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins
 
Overall grade is B. I think we could pass on Fred Davis and take a pass rusher instead. With an impact defensive end it would be a sure A.


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