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Big no to McNabb, that makes no sense.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;506202]He is making passes when he needs to and he is a rookie getting better every week. With Flacco 8-4 without 6-10.[/quote]

livin in bmore ive watched alot of the ravens and this year they have been healthier at the cb than last year (they still are dinged up alot) and rookie coach harbaugh isnt asking flacco to win games, instead hes asking him to manage games by putting him in managebale situations much like the pats did with cassel early on. so far flacco has responded well and seems to have a bright future.

plus their D is still a wrecking ball of a unit even with gregg out.

when we play them it will be a great game.

go skins!!

Re: JC is not what I thought part two
 

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;506208]Folks:

There is at least a 30% chance that the Eagles would trade Donovan McNabb at the end of this season.


SUPPOSE the Eagles offered an even-up trade:

McNabb for LaRon Landry.


Anyone here want to take that trade to get McNabb???[/quote]

No way.

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Matty:

I agree that the Skins should not take that trade - - but for those who think Campbell is not up to the job, this would be a potential "quick fix".

And we do know that the Skins have been known to jump at the "quick fix" option in the past...

Re: JC is not what I thought part two
 

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;506208]Folks:

There is at least a 30% chance that the Eagles would trade Donovan McNabb at the end of this season.


SUPPOSE the Eagles offered an even-up trade:

McNabb for LaRon Landry.


Anyone here want to take that trade to get McNabb???[/quote]

You can't be serious? First of all that's a big trade in the division and that just doesn't happen. Secondly haven't we had enough old players from other teams for one lifetime.

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hell no laRon is a young beast and mcnabb is old and is on the downslope

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[quote=Paintrain;506134]Dropping too deep?? Do you understand ANYTHING about the QB position?

So you see him locking onto receivers but Zorn says, if anything, he moves off his receivers too quickly? Hmm..

Specifically what poor decisions is he making? Last I checked he's got the fewest interceptions of a starting QB in the league. Doesn't that reflect good decision making?

Zorn is unfailingly honest. If Campbell was stinking, he'd say it. When everyone killed Thomas for dropping the 1st down against Dallas, Zorn put it completely on Campbell. When Sellers dropped the TD last week, Zorn put it on Campbell. He's not coddling JC in the media to protect his feelings.

It'd really be simpler if you just said you don't like Campbell, never have and never will rather than trying to formulate an argument that clearly has zero merit.[/quote]


But thats the one thing i love about Tony Romo he does drop deep also but he knows how to side step and step forward into the pocket. Campbell does drop too deep sometimes but once it collapse he goes into panic mode.

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[quote=wilsowilso;506231]You can't be serious? First of all that's a big trade in the division and that just doesn't happen. Secondly haven't we had enough old players from other teams for one lifetime.[/quote]


I agree. Damn why get a man that is on the downside of his career as a starter when you need to find your franchise guy ala Theismann, Jorgensen, etc? Evaluate JC the rest of the way, look at potential diamonds in the rough in the draft and young QB FAs, and let open the QB spot up for the best man. I pushed for JC over Brunell since we drafted him, but it looks like his early detractors were right about him benefitting at Auburn from having two 1st round HBs lining up behind him. It is hard to justify giving this guy 7 years to learn the pro game, when Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, rookies, can seemingly ease into the position and excel off the bat.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;506200]Ravens are ranked 27th in the leauge in passing. Flacco has had very few 200+ yard games in passing. Maybe they have had shorter fields to go, but they also faced a bunch of weak teams...[/quote]Well, 4th year Campbell is significantly better than Rookie Flacco, but Flacco certainly isn't struggling...I mean he's having the best year of any QB in his division. And I think you have to credit the offense around him for that.

Re: JC is not what I thought part two
 

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;506208]Folks:

There is at least a 30% chance that the Eagles would trade Donovan McNabb at the end of this season.


SUPPOSE the Eagles offered an even-up trade:

McNabb for LaRon Landry.


Anyone here want to take that trade to get McNabb???[/quote]

Once again this isn't Madden. And even if it was this would be a horrible trade.

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[quote=GTripp0012;506276]Well, 4th year Campbell is significantly better than Rookie Flacco, but Flacco certainly isn't struggling...I mean he's having the best year of any QB in his division. And I think you have to credit the offense around him for that.[/quote]
The offense around him has been the nfl worst, since the inception of the Ravens.

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JC is simply not getting it done. He is not finding recievers and he is way to concervative with the ball. He simply can not sustain drives, and is inept in the red zone.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;506280]The offense around him has been the nfl worst, since the inception of the Ravens.[/quote]Right, but this isn't 2002. Clayton/Mason are a very competent WR duo, and the Ravens have a strong, retooled OL.

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[quote=GTripp0012;506284]Right, but this isn't 2002. Clayton/Mason are a very competent WR duo, and the Ravens have a strong, retooled OL.[/quote]


The Moss-Randle El duo were supposed to be just as lethal as those two are. I don't think a retooled OL alone is going to make JC a great QB and I do not want to wait for another 2-3 seasons for them to retool the OL only to find JC still is inadequate. Evaluate JC the rest of the way then the FO has to make a decision about him and they should open the QB position for competition in the preseason. Either the kid has it or he doesn't. Patrick Ramsey didn't get half the sympathy this kid gets.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;506302]The Moss-Randle El duo were supposed to be just as lethal as those two are. I don't think a retooled OL alone is going to make JC a great QB and I do not want to wait for another 2-3 seasons for them to retool the OL only to find JC still is inadequate. Evaluate JC the rest of the way then the FO has to make a decision about him and they should open the QB position for competition in the preseason. Either the kid has it or he doesn't. Patrick Ramsey didn't get half the sympathy this kid gets.[/quote]
I agree.