Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;522436]Oh boy :doh:[/quote]


I could have said I wanted Outback Steak house but that would be requesting Pioli and he's already taken.

Is there anyone in the catagory of .....T.G.I.Fridays, Applebee's, Carlos Okelly's? or are we going to be stuck with fast food and cheap beer? lol.

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=Paintrain;522592]The only thing that would change the perception of the media and fans, regardless of who is in the GM/personnel role, is a team that consistently is a threat to win 10+ games and go deep into the playoffs.

I'd be fine with a change of regime with the caveat that it's a full changing of football operations with one voice, one philosophy and a organizational structure that we're committed to. [B]Just adding Allen to the muddled mess we currently have is rather pointless[/B].[/quote]

I think that's a good insight and probably correct. Also believe it will take a strong personality, though not necessarily a famous one, to be able to fundamentally change the FO approach to draft, FA etc (assuming a fundamental change isn't already occurring). I have no idea whether Allen is that personality.

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

He brought Gaines Adams,Talib,and Cadillac through the draft for the Bucs so the guy has somewhat of an eye for talent unlike Cerrato

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=SKINSFAN63;522622]He brought Gaines Adams,Talib,and Cadillac through the draft for the Bucs so the guy has somewhat of an eye for talent unlike Cerrato[/quote]

Yeah...hitting with your number one usually isn't that easy.

...Welcome to the board

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=Skinny Tee;522632]Yeah...hitting with your number one usually isn't that easy.

...Welcome to the board[/quote]

Sure, like when we got Rod Gardner and Patrick Ramsey, right? :doh:

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

BTW Ruhskins if u remember Ramsey was Snyders Pick when camp was in Carlisle and the week he finally signed I booed Ramsey when he walked out to practice He was always a bum and will always be a bum and half of u people probably thought he was gonna be something just like u do in Campbell and then u all thought Gibbs was gonna be the savior of this franchise and then he let u down I knew once he came back to us the game has passed him by let him go own his stupid Nascar cars

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

Last time I checked Snyder will still be the owner. It doesn't matter who comes in to play GM.

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=Bishop Hammer;522764]Last time I checked Snyder will still be the owner. It doesn't matter who comes in to play GM.[/quote]

Yes, Snyder is devil, blah blah blah. Thanks for bringing up the obvious and overused. :bdh:

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

Although I don't think Cerrato has the juice to be even an average GM you just have to keep him through this season. Same with Zorn. Show the league you can 'stay the course' and see if these two can put together a winning team.

Bringing Allen in will not really change anything.

If in 2010 or 2011 Danny snyder wants to change this team the best way to do that is with a BIG turnover. Bring in a Parcell's sort of guy to wipe the slat clean from top to bottom. Total change of philosophy, coaches, dropping most of the vets and a total re-building season.

Incremental changes are not going to do much now.

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=A10sROCK;522821]Although I don't think Cerrato has the juice to be even an average GM you just have to keep him through this season. Same with Zorn. Show the league you can 'stay the course' and see if these two can put together a winning team.

Bringing Allen in will not really change anything.

If in 2010 or 2011 Danny snyder wants to change this team the best way to do that is with a BIG turnover. Bring in a Parcell's sort of guy to wipe the slat clean from top to bottom. Total change of philosophy, coaches, dropping most of the vets and a total re-building season.

Incremental changes are not going to do much now.[/quote]

That's what I'm saying. No GM is going to touch this team until he knows that he'll be given at least five years to do what he needs to do. If we fire Z or VC in the next few years it will be the same old story and no one will come here regardless of $. Until then draft O-Line and D-line men. So when they do start from top to bottom, we'll not have wasted draft positions on flash.

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=A10sROCK;522821]Although I don't think Cerrato has the juice to be even an average GM you just have to keep him through this season. Same with Zorn. Show the league you can 'stay the course' and see if these two can put together a winning team.

Bringing Allen in will not really change anything.

If in 2010 or 2011 Danny snyder wants to change this team the best way to do that is with a BIG turnover. Bring in a Parcell's sort of guy to wipe the slat clean from top to bottom. Total change of philosophy, coaches, dropping most of the vets and a total re-building season.

Incremental changes are not going to do much now.[/quote]

Agreed, unless of course Vinny plans on giving away more of next years picks. In which case we need to get him out of here asap.

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[quote=Mattyk72;522252]That's what I'm trying to figure out. His drafts in TB were pretty unremarkable. If the answer is because he's not Vinny, that's not really a great reason to me to go after him.[/quote]

I hear you on that

During their playoff years they drafted mid to late first round and that can often be a crapshoot as far as what you expect out of the player and what you might get... but you can't call him a draft genius either that's for sure

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

What ever happened to this "rumor". Haven't heard anything about it since.

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=SOUL-SKINS;543984]What ever happened to this "rumor". Haven't heard anything about it since.[/quote]

Like most rumors it started out with a bang and then died a quiet death.

Re: RUMOR: Bruce Allen to Redskins?
 

[quote=Skinny Tee;522234]Whaaaa???? I don't get this.

[URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/22/allen-to-land-with-the-redskins/"]ProFootballTalk.com - ALLEN TO LAND WITH THE REDSKINS?[/URL][/quote]

I don't get why people read that tabloid.