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TheBigDaddy 11-15-2009 04:42 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
Well after today..I guess I'll take 75% over an injured Portis right now.
A win is a win and Betts and company have earned their chance to play.
Let CP sit until he is 100% then we see. IMO he's never played well when he's
injured.
And that no practice thing has always struck me as counter-team anyway.

tryfuhl 11-15-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
[quote=Zerohero;624830]Speaking of Betts starting, whats his injury status as of now?[/quote]

CAR YDS AVG TD LG
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3584"]L. Betts[/URL] 26 114 4.4 1 18
[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3761"]R. Cartwright [/URL]9 41 4.6 0 17

ethat001 11-15-2009 05:24 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
Betts looked fantastic today. That's two games in a row, and honestly very few of the games that Betts has started in his career has he ever looked bad. Has to be more than coincidence.

BUT there was a new combination on the O-line, who did well. Levi Jones at LT may have improved the chemistry (some of those holes looked huge!) As well, Denver hasn't been playing well against the run.

I say Portis gets back in there next week, but I wouldn't mind giving Betts additional carries.

GridIron26 11-15-2009 05:31 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
I say make Portis #2 next game (if he can play), but the chances of that are slim to none due to Portis and Snyder's relationship :doh:

Speaking of the line, I think Jones and Rinehart both helped the line..

Lotus 11-15-2009 05:34 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
I thought that Ganther looked reasonably good against Denver and I hope that he gets more playing time.

Hog1 11-15-2009 06:08 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
Check out the article posted in the WP. You get the impression that Sherm Lewis would rather keep Betts in?

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/12/AR2009111210638.html?sub=AR]washingtonpost.com[/url]

tryfuhl 11-15-2009 06:30 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
I say you still give Portis a chance, but one

either he figures out how to hit the holes and extend the runs.. or Betts is the feature

DynamiteRave 11-15-2009 06:30 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
Well after watching Betts, Rock and Ganther take reps, I wouldn't be sad to see Portis go...

firstdown 11-15-2009 06:43 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;625764]Well after watching Betts, Rock and Ganther take reps, I wouldn't be sad to see Portis go...[/quote]
Well to be fair the line also gave JC time to complete some passes. Two of his sacks where on JC and not the line.

artmonkforhallofamein07 11-15-2009 06:59 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
I still think that it is some part Portis though. He had some holes this year and he doesn't attack the line of scrimage anymore. He is uninspired. Where as today we got see a few guys on our team attack the line of scrimmage. Betts did an excellent job of finding and hitting holes hard. He didn't always go down on first contact and the same goes for Rock he has ran the ball very well and HARD when he gets his chances.

Maybe he gets a couple of weeks off and watches other RBs run hard he will want to come out and try to show them up which could be a very good thing. OR just getting Portis into the rotation and have more of a runnig back by commitee scheme.

30gut 11-15-2009 10:05 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
[quote=CantonLegend;624820]it was 24 to 3 at half time......the falcons almost never had to play in their base defense because they knew you guys would have to pass to get back in the game.....they were willing to give up meaningless yardage to a backup running back because they knew it had no effect on the game

running against nickel defenses is a lot easier than running against the base 4-3 that the falcons bring heavy pressure on[/quote]

Betts and Cartwright were running hard that is undeniable if you watched the game.

Now, wether or not the Falcon we're playing nickel after half time doesn't change how hard the Betts and Rock were running.

And i have the game recorded and would have to go back and watch, but i don't recall the Falcons playing nickel gainst our base defensive personnel so i don't know where you're getting that from.

BTW-Did you see how hard Betts and Rock ran against the Broncos?
Were they in nickel also?:)

GTripp0012 11-15-2009 10:11 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
[quote=firstdown;625768]Well to be fair the line also gave JC time to complete some passes. Two of his sacks where on JC and not the line.[/quote]It's sad we've reached a point where the pass pro JC received today is considered to be part of the solution, but actually, I agree with the sentiment. He was protected well enough to have performed better than he did today.

CantonLegend 11-15-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
[quote=30gut;625851]Betts and Cartwright were running hard that is undeniable if you watched the game.

Now, wether or not the Falcon we're playing nickel after half time doesn't change how hard the Betts and Rock were running.

And i have the game recorded and would have to go back and watch, but i don't recall the Falcons playing nickel gainst our base defensive personnel so i don't know where you're getting that from.

BTW-Did you see how hard Betts and Rock ran against the Broncos?
Were they in nickel also?:)[/quote]

lol i picked betts up for my fantasy team this week

fwiw.....this says nothing about what clinton portis would have done against the broncos.....they are being exposed.....teams are running all over the broncos and for a team that is a running team, this shouldnt be a surprise that the broncos defense collapsed under the running game

maroonandblack30 11-16-2009 08:34 AM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
Portis better not see the field the rest of the year. He is our 3rd best RB at this point.

Betts and Cartwright are WAY WAY WAY better.

SolidSnake84 11-16-2009 08:34 AM

Re: Portis is a BIG problem!!!
 
Betts has proven over and over again things to this team. Yesterday was just one more thing. I dont see why people can't realize that he is better than Portis at this point. He's just never had the opportunity.

CP should not play again this year. 3-6 means you can play other players and RB is definatley one position that needs change. Yesterday proved that we can win without Portis. Betts ran for 114 yards on his first start. And Portis ran for 100 yard just ONCE in 8 games....that tells you alot, or it should.


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