Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

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Bradford puts on 13 lbs of muscle to impress scouts

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=mooby;666502]Anybody thought about Bradford's possible chemistry with Malcolm Kelly? I'm not certain of this but I believe Bradford was a freshman the year before Kelly went pro. If they had a nice chemistry on the field that could mean good things for both Bradford if we end up picking him and for Kelly. Even though I like Campbell I definitely wouldn't mind taking Bradford.[/quote]

kelly is never healthy. He's only made one play in two years that I can recollect.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=Mattyk;666512]I'm going to guess he has a tad more inside info and connections than we do.[/quote]

Do you really think team officials are feeding these analysts real information? If anything it's disinformation (ie the rams want to select Sam Bradford with the no. 1 pick) This makes sense. The Rams may be able to entice the Skins to trade up, give up Campbell and the no. 4 overall pick (and probably something else) and they'll still probably get the player they want (Suh) and not have to pay him No. 1 money.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=mredskins;666558]What about Campbell and the 4th pick for the number one pick which turns into Bradford. I won't like it but just wondering what folks thought.[/quote]

I hate it. I don't want to pick Bradford at No. 4 with Campbell taking the lumps while he's "groomed on the bench."

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;666806]Do you really think team officials are feeding these analysts real information? If anything it's disinformation (ie the rams want to select Sam Bradford with the no. 1 pick) This makes sense.[B] The Rams may be able to entice the Skins to trade up, give up Campbell and the no. 4 overall pick (and probably something else) and they'll still probably get the player they want (Suh) and not have to pay him No. 1 money[/B].[/quote]

I heard this being talked about today. The thinking is based on Snyder's reputation of going overboard to get a name player that he wants. I wouldn't blame the Rams for trying, but I think/hope we've gotten beyond that way of doing business.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=DIE-NASTY;666806]Do you really think team officials are feeding these analysts real information? If anything it's disinformation (ie the rams want to select Sam Bradford with the no. 1 pick) This makes sense. The Rams may be able to entice the Skins to trade up, give up Campbell and the no. 4 overall pick (and probably something else) and they'll still probably get the player they want (Suh) and not have to pay him No. 1 money.[/quote]

They're definitely getting real information, it's just that the information is always changing at this time of year. Besides, Schefter has said this wasn't based on any inside info per se just a hunch of his. A hunch which he deducted based on his inside connections.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=Lotus;666598]I don't think that Pennington and Bulger are better than Campbell. For me, I wouldn't trade Campbell unless real riches were involved.

But the question was posed about what we will do at QB if we trade JC before the draft. In this scenario it seems to me that Shanny would want to bring in another vet, if nothing else for competition. If you then wonder what vets are available, Pennington and (likely) Bulger come to mind. That's all.[/quote]

I like Campbell but wouldn't mind if we traded him if the price was right. I don't want to give him away for whitner and a 5th rd.

As far as QB competition, what about Jeff Garcia. I think he's a decent stop-gap who can help you win games. He's mobile, experienced and a gamer. he played great for the Eagles a couple years back when McNabb went down.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;666791]The bad news is that Bradford is going to be great and there's no way that he will fall to us.

The good news is that Okung measured in at 6-5, 307 with very long 36" arms and huge 10-1/2" hands at the NFL Combine. Then he put up 38 reps on the bench press. That just adds to many positives we already know about him. He seems to be a great prospect.[/quote]

Jason White threw for 75 tds and only 19 ints (avg 3500 passing yards) in his final two years at Oklahoma and never amounted to anything. Sam bradford...86 tds, 16 ints and 7800 passing yards...pretty similar.

White had bad knees but still i think an argument could be made (and i think it has) that Bradford is a system qb.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=SmootSmack;666810]They're definitely getting real information, it's just that the information is always changing at this time of year. Besides, Schefter has said this wasn't based on any inside info per se just a hunch of his. A hunch which he deducted based on his inside connections.[/quote]

Maybe so but my bet is teams are whoring the media kind of like Scott Boras does to get the best deal for his players. he stirs up enough half-truths through these vultures that a team panics and drops big coin for his player.

I hope the Skins don't jump off the cliff.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;666791]The bad news is that [B]Bradford is going to be great[/B] and there's no way that he will fall to us.

The good news is that Okung measured in at 6-5, 307 with very long 36" arms and huge 10-1/2" hands at the NFL Combine. Then he put up 38 reps on the bench press. That just adds to many positives we already know about him. He seems to be a great prospect.[/quote]

I like both prospects, but the more I hear that he played in a spread offense, and the fact that Landry Jones played just as well as soon as Bradford got hurt, the more I'm thinking on just sticking with Okung, the bad thing is that the lions may get Okung. Which leads me to say that the worst possible scenario for us would be bradford to st louis and okung to detroit, then we wouldn't have one of the 2 best players we wanted.

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It hasn't occurred to anyone that maybe we'll be running a lot of spread offense formations. I mean it's known that Shanahan spent time attending Patriots' practices studying what they do. And the Pats run a lot of the spread offense with Brady in the shotgun. Or that he spent time with Urban Meyer learning about his spread offense. And not to mention the Texans (where Kyle Shanahan just was) ran a lot of spread offense formations.

And then on top of all that is the fact that Bradford has shown (his freshman year) that he can also be successful behind center.

In conclusion, Bradford will do just fine...and if you're concerned about him just draft Jevan Snead! :)

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=SmootSmack;666823]It hasn't occurred to anyone that maybe we'll be running a lot of spread offense formations. I mean it's known that Shanahan spent time attending Patriots' practices studying what they do. And the Pats run a lot of the spread offense with Brady in the shotgun. Or that he spent time with Urban Meyer learning about his spread offense. And not to mention the Texans (where Kyle Shanahan just was) ran a lot of spread offense formations.

And then on top of all that is the fact that Bradford has shown (his freshman year) that he can also be successful behind center.

In conclusion, Bradford will do just fine...and if you're concerned about him just draft Jevan Snead! :)[/quote]

that is a good point. i do remember reading that when Shannahan was hired.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;666820]I like both prospects, but the more I hear that he played in a spread offense, and the fact that Landry Jones played just as well as soon as Bradford got hurt, the more I'm thinking on just sticking with Okung, the bad thing is that the lions may get Okung. Which leads me to say that the worst possible scenario for us would be bradford to st louis and okung to detroit, then we wouldn't have one of the 2 best players we wanted.[/quote]

Landry Jones did play well. But saying that Jones played just as well is a huge slap in the face to just how well Bradford was at the collegiate level. I mean you're talking about a Heisman winner and comparing him to a guy who wasn't even close to being a Heisman fianlist. Lets start with accuracy:

Landry Jones: 58% in the spread
Sam Bradford: 67% in the spread 2008, 69% Pro Style Offense 2007

Landry Jones QB Rating: 130.83
Sam Bradford: 180.4 in the spread 2008, 176.52 in the pro style offense

Landry Jones TD Passes to Int's: 26 TD's 14 ints
Sam Bradford: 50 TD's 8 Ints 2008, 36 TD's 8 Ints 2007
(granted Landry Jones started less games due to the games Bradford did play but even then it would still be hard for him to compensate by throwing 24 TD's in 1.5 games or 10 for that matter)

Landry Jones Yards: 3,198 yards
Sam Bradford: 4,720 yards in 2008, 3,121 yards in 2007

To put it in NFL terms saying that Landry Jones even came close to matching Bradford production wise is like saying that 2009 Jason Campbell played almost as well as 2007 Tom Brady. (Landry Jones NFL QB rating: 86, Sam Bradford 126 in 2008, 123 in 2007).

When you compare theres just no comparison. So no more crazy talk about Landry = Bradford, Cult :D

[quote=SmootSmack;666823]It hasn't occurred to anyone that maybe we'll be running a lot of spread offense formations. I mean it's known that Shanahan spent time attending Patriots' practices studying what they do. And the Pats run a lot of the spread offense with Brady in the shotgun. Or that he spent time with Urban Meyer learning about his spread offense. And not to mention the Texans (where Kyle Shanahan just was) ran a lot of spread offense formations.

And then on top of all that is the fact that Bradford has shown (his freshman year) that he can also be successful behind center.

In conclusion, Bradford will do just fine...and if you're concerned about him just draft Jevan Snead! :)[/quote]

It's unfortunate that it has pretty much taken the fact that we now will want what we can't have for some people to realize just how much of a prospect Bradford is. Still I knew it was pretty much sealed when I heard that Bradford weighed in at 236.

I mean I know the numbers at the combine only mean so much but so much of the skeptism towards Bradford has been due to that shoulder, where if you listen to some non-doctor posters is practically hanging by a string, and the lanky frame that couldn't possibly stand up to the beating that our line (which apparently is going to be the exact same of last year) will cause Bradford to go through. 236 pounds with most of the weight gained being muscle is overkill. Actually makes me wonder if he could stand more hits now then Big Ben.

By the way Smootsmack stop trying to circumvent our swear filter. You know Spread is a dirty word. I'm disgraced to have you as a mod.

Re: Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1
 

[quote=SmootSmack;666823]It hasn't occurred to anyone that maybe we'll be running a lot of spread offense formations. I mean it's known that Shanahan spent time attending Patriots' practices studying what they do. And the Pats run a lot of the spread offense with Brady in the shotgun. Or that he spent time with Urban Meyer learning about his spread offense. And not to mention the Texans (where Kyle Shanahan just was) ran a lot of spread offense formations.

And then on top of all that is the fact that Bradford has shown (his freshman year) that he can also be successful behind center.

In conclusion, Bradford will do just fine...and if you're concerned about him just draft Jevan Snead! :)[/quote]

Spread offense! What's funny is Colt would be the ultimate spread offense guru. Maybe there is something to Shanny liking what he see's of Colt?

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Just the turn this needed

and I'm not even fully joking haha