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Lotus 04-21-2010 04:11 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=SBXVII;691145]I just don't get it. I do know you can't have it two ways. Either M.Shanahan is telling the truth or he's not.

Everyone is quick to point out that Shanahan said "T.O. is not in the Redskins plans." Meaning we will not be picking up T.O., but don't hesitate to question the fact that Shanahan said AH is a Redskin and is contracted and will remain a Redskin.

If Shanahan is telling the truth about T.O. then the obvious is also true...AH will not be traded.

Unless Shanahan is lying which means he could be lying about T.O. also. which is it?[/quote]

Two different issues are at play here.

TO is a free agent. No need to smoke screen or lie. Just sign him...or not.

AH, on the other hand, may be traded with draft implications. Therefore a smokescreen or lie may be appropriate.

skinsfan_nn 04-22-2010 05:16 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Maybe the Viks in play or should I say "hot pursuit" for fat albert....

Vikings in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 22, 2010 5:12 PM ET
One of the more intriguing draft rumors floating around today involves a new team that may have an interest in acquiring Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth: The Minnesota Vikings.

A league source told PFT that the Vikings are in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth.

The rumor we heard lines up with something Judd Zulgad of the Star Tribune wrote today, indicating ESPN's John Clayton had mentioned that the Vikings had contacted the Redskins about Haynesworth. Although Redskins coach Mike Shanahan has said there have been no Haynesworth trade talks, most people believe that Haynesworth would be available.

Haynesworth would seem to be a better fit in the Vikings' 4-3 defense than in the new 3-4 that the Redskins are installing. In Minnesota, Haynesworth would join a defensive line that already has defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams, both of whom are still potentially facing four-game suspensions over a 2008 positive test for a prescription diuretic.

Gmanc711 04-22-2010 05:20 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Thats interesting.... Do you think there is ANY way that we get their 1st round pick for him?

I'm not really in favor of trading Big Al, but if we're going to, maybe we could at least get some value in this one.

SirClintonPortis 04-22-2010 05:21 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;691882]Maybe the Viks in play or should I say "hot pursuit" for fat albert....

Vikings in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 22, 2010 5:12 PM ET
One of the more intriguing draft rumors floating around today involves a new team that may have an interest in acquiring Washington Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth: The Minnesota Vikings.

A league source told PFT that the Vikings are in "hot pursuit" of Haynesworth.

The rumor we heard lines up with something Judd Zulgad of the Star Tribune wrote today, indicating ESPN's John Clayton had mentioned that the Vikings had contacted the Redskins about Haynesworth. Although Redskins coach Mike Shanahan has said there have been no Haynesworth trade talks, most people believe that Haynesworth would be available.

Haynesworth would seem to be a better fit in the Vikings' 4-3 defense than in the new 3-4 that the Redskins are installing. In Minnesota, Haynesworth would join a defensive line that already has defensive tackles Kevin Williams and Pat Williams, both of whom are still potentially facing four-game suspensions over a 2008 positive test for a prescription diuretic.[/quote]

That would be ****ing scary. Borderline insane defense. And I'm not to type to use profanity much.

saden1 04-22-2010 05:21 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
OK, at this point AH needs to payback some of that money to get a trade. I'm not willing to let his ass walk with 30 million after just one year of service without getting at least a 1st round pick or some of that money back.

Gmanc711 04-22-2010 05:21 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;691884]That would be ****ing scary. Borderline insanely good defense.[/quote]

Seriously, him, the Williams and Jared Allen???

SmootSmack 04-22-2010 05:25 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=Gmanc711;691883]Thats interesting.... Do you think there is ANY way that we get their 1st round pick for him?

I'm not really in favor of trading Big Al, but if we're going to, maybe we could at least get some value in this one.[/quote]

Wouldn't put too much into the Vikings rumor (or the rumor that McKinnie would be traded to the Redskins).

The only legit contender was the Titans but they had (have?) to get a 2nd to send to us first.

Saints are a long shot.

Longtimefan 04-22-2010 05:35 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=SmootSmack;691889]Wouldn't put too much into the Vikings rumor (or the rumor that McKinnie would be traded to the Redskins).

The only legit contender was the Titans but they had (have?) to get a 2nd to send to us first.

Saints are a long shot.[/quote]

I'm not in favor of trading Haynesworth either. Afraid we won't get equal value because he should fetch a 1st rounder and I doubt anyone is going to give that for him. Don't want to think we're so disgruntled with him that we'll just give him away because some people are unhappy with his off-season approach.

skinsfan_nn 04-22-2010 06:55 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Redskin Insider:

Posted at 6:27 PM ET, 04/22/2010
Redskins might find it tough to turn down 2nd-rounder for Haynesworth

With only about an hour remaining before the draft begins, there's obviously a lot flying around. Despite the Redskins' denial, there's tons of chatter about defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth.

If they can get a second-round pick for Haynesworth, the Redskins would have a hard time passing on that, a person familiar with the situation said. To this point, it is believed the Redskins have not received an offer that includes a second-rounder.

Meanwhile, there are reports the Minnesota Vikings are in pursuit of Haynesworth. I recently received a text message from a source who has spoken with a high-ranking Vikings official, and the official told the source Minnesota has nothing going on right now with the Redskins.

mlmpetert 04-23-2010 04:34 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
fyi

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/23/report-haynesworth-deal-expected-now/]Report: Haynesworth deal expected now | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Here's the latest on the $100 million man in list form because my brain is tired and I need to put on some pants and get over to Radio City Music Hall soon.

1. NFL Network's Jason La Canfora's sources is convinced Haynesworth's trade [URL="http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/23/haynesworth-deal-expected-to-come-down-today/"][COLOR=#0000ff]will happen today[/COLOR][/URL]. And despite Titans coach Jeff Fisher's protestations, he says the most likely destination is Tennessee for a second round pick.

2. The Saints aren't interested. Both the [I]New Orleans Times-Picayune's[/I] Jeff Duncan and Jay Glazer of FOX say they Saints don't want him. He even used capital letters to say so:

"They have ZERO interest in Albert. ZERO!!!"

3. Both Haynesworth and the Redskins want a divorce. That doesn't help leverage, so it behooves both sides to float rumors of interest, even if the interest is mild. When both sides want a divorce, the trade usually happens.

mlmpetert 04-23-2010 04:36 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Id rather have Haynesworth then a second round pick unless it also came with a great player.

SmootSmack 04-23-2010 04:37 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
Titans deal could be close. They need to make one other move first (unless the Skins are willing to settle) and when that deal closes, and it should from what I hear, it will open things up for a trade to TN.

Perhaps not coincidentally, Big Al's agent was talking with Titans officials this morning (reportedly)

Still at least one other team involved potentially

Dirtbag59 04-23-2010 04:38 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=mlmpetert;693223]fyi

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/23/report-haynesworth-deal-expected-now/]Report: Haynesworth deal expected now | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Here's the latest on the $100 million man in list form because my brain is tired and I need to put on some pants and get over to Radio City Music Hall soon.

1. NFL Network's Jason La Canfora's sources is convinced Haynesworth's trade [URL="http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/23/haynesworth-deal-expected-to-come-down-today/"][COLOR=#0000ff]will happen today[/COLOR][/URL]. And despite Titans coach Jeff Fisher's protestations, he says the most likely destination is Tennessee for a second round pick.

2. The Saints aren't interested. Both the [I]New Orleans Times-Picayune's[/I] Jeff Duncan and Jay Glazer of FOX say they Saints don't want him. He even used capital letters to say so:

"They have ZERO interest in Albert. ZERO!!!"

3. Both Haynesworth and the Redskins want a divorce. That doesn't help leverage, so it behooves both sides to float rumors of interest, even if the interest is mild. When both sides want a divorce, the trade usually happens.[/quote]

PFT + JLC = Fail. This story couldn't be more wrong. We are not trading him. End of story. I'm now going to refer to them as the true liberal media, because while it's nice to hear rumors and the like during the offseason it gets annoying when they're dead wrong. The liberal part comes into play because they're are very Laissez-faire with what they'll use to write a story.

joethiesmanfan 04-23-2010 04:44 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;693226]PFT + JLC = Fail. This story couldn't be more wrong. We are not trading him. End of story. I'm now going to refer to them as the true liberal media, because while it's nice to hear rumors and the like during the offseason it gets annoying when they're dead wrong. The liberal part comes into play because they're are very Laissez-faire with what they'll use to write a story.[/quote]

Wouldn't that be conservative since they are using very little information, as they try to wish something to be true and claim their theories are actually facts.

SirClintonPortis 04-23-2010 04:52 PM

Re: AH trade II La Canfora insists AH is indeed on the trading block.
 
[quote=joethiesmanfan;693229]Wouldn't that be conservative since they are using very little information, as they try to wish something to be true and claim their theories are actually facts.[/quote]
Laissez-faire capitalism used to be "liberal" in its heyday. It's essentially dead now, as everything has at least some government pawprints on it now.

And "conservatives" make some good points, but are more brazen with their knuckleheadness than their donkey counterparts, and the latter is only slightly better off, as they are prone to snobbery.


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