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[quote=rbanerjee23;709919]Seems like you just went down the list of the moves we have made this year. I've got some additions/changes...

top 10 defense? no idea b/c this group w/ the 3-4 is untested
franchise qb? no b/c McNabb is not the long term answer
Getting a LT and RT? yeah, we acquired a LT and RT. One is coming off a major injury and is changing positions, the other is a rookie who wasn't the top ranked tackle in the draft
Solid RB core? No, bunch of old-timers
The list could go on and on about the deficiencies.[/quote]

Well, that's certainly the glass is half empty look at things.

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[quote=Mattyk;709927]Well, that's certainly the glass is half empty look at things.[/quote]

How is it glass half-empty when my only opinion is that it is too soon to make any judgments about this team.

Have they played a single down? Hell, have they even put on pads with Shanny at the helm. They've made some decent moves, sure, but we're used to being the offseason champs.

For now, the only concrete thing to be excited about is the fact that the front office seems to be competent, a refreshing departure from the past.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;709929]How is it glass half-empty when my only opinion is that it is too soon to make any judgments about this team.

Have they played a single down? Hell, have they even put on pads with Shanny at the helm. They've made some decent moves, sure, but we're used to being the offseason champs.

For now, the only concrete thing to be excited about is the fact that the front office seems to be competent, a refreshing departure from the past.[/quote]
I don't think Matty's questioning your logic, just stating you seem to be taking a pessimistic stance on the current roster moves.

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[quote=Redskin Jim;709931]I don't think Matty's questioning your logic, just stating you seem to be taking a pessimistic stance on the current roster moves.[/quote]

Exactly what I'm saying.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

[quote=Monksdown;709900]Or even better. Without Jackson i see us right now as a borderline 9-7 team, wild card contender. With a top notch number 1, such as Jackson, we are borderline 10-6, and we win the division.

[B]That being said, I don't want to pay him, i don't want to trade for him. I think we will need the picks to address QB, RB, WR, and DB over the next 2 years.[/quote][/B]

[B]I agree.[/B]

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

There is nothing on the web about the trade being done.

I don't know about this guy.

Is he really looking at being suspended? does anyone have any info on this?

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[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Vincent-Jackson-trial-scheduled-for-April.html]Wilson: Vincent Jackson trial set for April | National Football Post[/url]

Found this. It looks as though he is facing 2 games for getting a DUS ( driving under suspension ). He got pulled by the cops before the Chargers playoff loss to the Jets. OF course since he already has 2 duis under his belt, he had a suspended license for the offenses. This is standard practice for most states when you get a DUI. So this is were the supension is coming from. The guy needs to quit driving and doing stupid shit. You would think guys would learn after the first time.

Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson
 

Another issue that needs to be raised is how in the hell are we going to be able to sign McNabb, Jackson, and Brown to long term deals?

I would like to keep all of these guys on the team long term not just one year rentals.

Jackson will want a big deal right away. At least what BM got in MIA.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;709951]Another issue that needs to be raised is how in the hell are we going to be able to sign McNabb, Jackson, and Brown to long term deals?

I would like to keep all of these guys on the team long term not just one year rentals.

Jackson will want a big deal right away. At least what BM got in MIA.[/quote]With the labor turmoil in the upcoming offseason, I don't think those contracts are going to be addressed until there is a clearer picture of the new CBA/cap structure.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;709687]No way Big D. Jackson is at least one first rounder for SD to part ways with him.[/quote]

Well then in that case he won't be traded seeing as how no one is going to give up a first round pick for a disgruntled receiver with a looming suspension. On top of that you have the new contract which he wants to be worth more than the Marshall deal. The Chargers don't have enough leverage to warrant a first round pick for Jackson just like the Redskins can't get a first round pick for Haynesworth.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another WR potentially (no inside info here, just guessing) but I doubt it will be Vincent Jackson

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Trading for Mcnabb and Jammal Brown were good trades because QB & OT are pivotal positions in a football team, our especially considering how our offense stunk last year.

Now VJ is a good pass catcher, making some great leaping end zone TDs but I'm against trading picks since we are 2 short already. We were 4-12 last year, and alot of important positions on the team are up in age like QB, C, MLB, NT etc... and we need picks to replenish depth.

WR is my eyes are more of a luxury than dire need. The addition of McNabb at QB and Brown & Williams into line protection will see our offense improve over last year and make our WRs look good.

I'm sure next year there will be a ton of FA WRs, which we can throw $$$ at without losing picks in the process.

My 2 sene.

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^^ I tend to agree with you Hamo. I think this is just something else to get us fans excited. we can all dream about addin this player and that and how it will effect us in the short term, but I seem to miss the big picture as far as the future at times.

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To build a team over the long haul we need to keep our top picks. Why go for Jackson if we can target a great WR in the first round or two next season that will stay around for awhile for lesser cost to the franchise? Multiple picks for a guy, however good he is, is not warranted. Hamo is right, we have too many holes still to plug in the lines still, plus LB and DB. Fletch might decide to retire after this season or next. LB is going to be a top need for us ASAP. We have already given up a lot for both McNabb and Brown. I like the FA moves, in that they have been smart and have addressed needs, but we still are almost exclusively using FA to build a team.

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Let's just wait till next year to draft Julio Jones or Malcolm Floyd.