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[quote=JoeRedskin;727026]Excellent post.

Quite frankly, I am tired of hearing my beliefs being referred to as fairy tales by those who chose to believe differently.

BB, where do your "inalienable rights" come from? If you do not believe in the existence of a being outside creation, aren't they just conveyed to you by other humans? If so conveyed, isn't it equally true that they can be denied by the same?[/quote]Here's something I've always brought up when going down this path with those that don't believe.

There are two sides to the argument either God exists, or does not exist.

First, let's say non-believers are right and He doesn't exist. In that scenario, I still believe He exists, so I live my life in accordance with Christian principles. I raise a family and they do the same. We all obey the government's laws and are generally good (not perfect, but try to be good). I get old, sick, and die still believing in God. He doesn't exist so there's no heaven, hell, etc. I was just a mass of cells with electric pulses / chemical reactions going on inside, I never know if I was right or wrong, and I'm gone. No harm, no foul. I generally left my circle of influence a little bit better than it would've been had I not existed.

But.....what if I'm right, God does exist, and non-believers have flat-out rejected Him. Not a real good postion for them to be in.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;727050] But.....what if I'm right, God does exist, and non-believers have flat-out rejected Him. Not a real good postion for them to be in.[/quote]

What if God exists and could care less if people acknowledge him according to one dogma or the other or if they even believe in him at all?

What if you live an honest life and contribute to your family and community and that's really all it takes to be in God's good graces?

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[quote=wilsowilso;727059]What if God exists and could care less if people acknowledge him according to one dogma or the other or if they even believe in him at all?[/quote]maybe I should've rephrased God to "what Judeo-Christian's believe as God".

[quote]What if you live an honest life and contribute to your family and community and that's really all it takes to be in God's good graces?[/quote]Then that's fantastic. Look, I'm not trying to push my beliefs on anyone. I was responding to JoeR, who I know holds a similiar belief system as I do. I know there are many that believe different things and I'm not an evangelical who's out to "save" everyone. But at the same time, I'm going to make a statement when others make the claim that my whole belief system is based on fairy tales.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;727050]Here's something I've always brought up when going down this path with those that don't believe.

There are two sides to the argument either God exists, or does not exist.

First, let's say non-believers are right and He doesn't exist. In that scenario, I still believe He exists, so I live my life in accordance with Christian principles. I raise a family and they do the same. We all obey the government's laws and are generally good (not perfect, but try to be good). I get old, sick, and die still believing in God. He doesn't exist so there's no heaven, hell, etc. I was just a mass of cells with electric pulses / chemical reactions going on inside, I never know if I was right or wrong, and I'm gone. No harm, no foul. I generally left my circle of influence a little bit better than it would've been had I not existed.

[B]But.....what if I'm right, God does exist, and non-believers have flat-out rejected Him. Not a real good postion for them to be in[/B].[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]That sounds like how my dad thinks. He has stated that he goes to church for “insurance” purposes. I dont know if i think thats a healthy way to be religious.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I watch South Park every now and then, and I remember watching a episode about Mormons. It basically poked fun at a lot of the ridiculous beliefs that Mormons have, but it also showed how happy the Mormon family was and how they were great people and had great values. So that’s the way I look at it. Sure belive what you want, but at the end of the day does it make you a better person. If you’re a “non-believer” that cant help yourself when it come it comes to attacking other people’s beliefs – does that make you a better person. If you’re run by divine providence and think your job is to save other people to the point that you offend them – does that make you a better person. As much as I hate it (because the type of people I see in the cars) I really like the idea behind the [URL="http://www.northernsun.com/images/imagelarge/Coexist-Bumper-Sticker-(7167).jpg"]coexist bumper sticker[/URL]. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=wilsowilso;727059]What if God exists and could care less if people acknowledge him according to one dogma or the other or if they even believe in him at all?

What if you live an honest life and contribute to your family and community and that's really all it takes to be in God's good graces?[/quote]

Exactly how I feel.

Somehow I doubt God, if he exists, is so preoccupied with whether or not we believe in his existence. Shouldn't a God be above such pettiness?

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Thread checklist

Black National Anthem -- check
Global Warming -- check
Existence of God - check
Mosque at Ground Zero (well 2 blocks away) -- check
Left bashing right - check
Right being offended by left bashing right - check
Unicorns -- check
Taxes - ??
Universal Healthcare -- ??

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Under any of these scenarios at the end of the day or in this case, end of the lifetime, your choices may be yours to reap. You may or may not be judged and rewarded or punished depending on the existence of the Judeo-Christian prototypical Creator. Good luck.........

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;727084]Thread checklist

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Global Warming -- check
Existence of God - check
Mosque at Ground Zero (well 2 blocks away) -- check
Left bashing right - check
Right being offended by left bashing right - check
Unicorns -- check
[B]Taxes - ??[/B]
Universal Healthcare -- ??[/quote]


My soon to be sister in law got me one of these cards a few weeks ago. Its pretty sweet.

[URL]https://www.atr.org/card.html[/URL]

EDIT: Wow i didnt realize she donated money to get this..... She voted for Obama too, but now absolutely [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]despises him.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;727084]Thread checklist

Black National Anthem -- check
Global Warming -- check
Existence of God - check
Mosque at Ground Zero (well 2 blocks away) -- check
Left bashing right - check
Right being offended by left bashing right - check
Unicorns -- check
Taxes - ??
Universal Healthcare -- ??[/quote]

So glad we hit on unicorns, Beck would be proud.

But is this really a case of left vs. right? Left doesn't = non-believer anymore than right = believer.

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[quote=mlmpetert;727069][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]That sounds like how my dad thinks. He has stated that he goes to church for “insurance” purposes. I dont know if i think thats a healthy way to be religious.[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]LOL at your Dad. I agree with you about the "insurance" or fear not being the optimal way to find God.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][quote]I watch South Park every now and then, and I remember watching a episode about Mormons. It basically poked fun at a lot of the ridiculous beliefs that Mormons have, but it also showed how happy the Mormon family was and how they were great people and had great values. So that’s the way I look at it. Sure belive what you want, but at the end of the day does it make you a better person. If you’re a “non-believer” that cant help yourself when it come it comes to attacking other people’s beliefs – does that make you a better person. If you’re run by divine providence and think your job is to save other people to the point that you offend them – does that make you a better person. As much as I hate it (because the type of people I see in the cars) I really like the idea behind the [URL="http://www.northernsun.com/images/imagelarge/Coexist-Bumper-Sticker-(7167).jpg"]coexist bumper sticker[/URL]. [/quote][/FONT][/COLOR]That was a funny episode. And well stated about folks respecting one another.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;727090]So glad we hit on unicorns, Beck would be proud.

But is this really a case of left vs. right? Left doesn't = non-believer anymore than right = believer.[/QUOTE]

the left vs right was so page 4 of this thread

[QUOTE]Dam the left likes to call people names that don't agree with them. Just go through this entire thread and see the name calling. I thought the left was the party of inclusion, yea my ass. Thats all right november is just a month away.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;727084]Thread checklist

Black National Anthem -- check
Global Warming -- check
Existence of God - check
Mosque at Ground Zero (well 2 blocks away) -- check
Left bashing right - check
Right being offended by left bashing right - check
Unicorns -- check
Taxes - ??
Universal Healthcare -- ??[/quote]

lol best post to this thread by far:food-smil

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[quote=Mattyk;727090]So glad we hit on unicorns, Beck would be proud.
[/quote]Damn, I missed the unicorns.

Re: My Thoughts On The Glenn Beck Rally
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;727084]Thread checklist

Black National Anthem -- check
Global Warming -- check
Existence of God - check
Mosque at Ground Zero (well 2 blocks away) -- check
Left bashing right - check
Right being offended by left bashing right - check
Unicorns -- check
Taxes - ??
Universal Healthcare -- ??[/quote]

Glenn Beck supports the Arizona law on illegal immigration because he believes Hispanics are the reason guys like Marcus Mason can't find jobs in the NFL...thread checklist complete