Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

I wonder what they will do with all of the Qur'ans that they had ready to burn. You can't just throw them away, that would be sacrilege.

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

[quote=Lotus;730352]I wonder what they will do with all of the Qur'ans that they had ready to burn. You can't just throw them away, that would be sacrilege.[/quote]

I would return them for a refund though I would suspect all sales of the Qur'an are final.

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

Didn't they kick him out of another church for stealing money from them? LOL, don't know how people follow morons like this, but whatever.

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;730324]I hope that jackass is proud. I'm watching the news right now and basically just his idiot idea, even though it's been called off, has sparked anti-American hatred everywhere (even more than before). Nice job asshole.[/quote]

You really think he sparked all the anti-American hate? I think that was started way before 9/11 and its just another reason for them to act out. Remember when that guy did a cartoon in the paper and they flipped out then? Fu** them.

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

FD, this is about building bridges not burning them. Yes there are Muslims who hate us, and there are Muslims who believe that all non-believers should be killed. Nothing we do or don't do is going to change that segment's beliefs en masse. HOWEVER, by not doing idiotic things, and showing the same type of compassion that the good samaritan (in Jesus' parable) showed, or that Martin Luther King Jr discussed in his I have a dream speech, or that the founders wrote in the pre-amble to our constitution, (the list goes on) we can live up to our own ideals. If we live up to our own ideals maybe we will give those who could be swayed either way - to radicalism or a non-radical life view- a stronger footing in peaceful divergence of religion.

Saying they started it at this point is a relatively shallow and immature way of dealing with complex, intense, religious devotions on either side of this problem.

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;730581] If we live up to our own ideals maybe we will give those who could be swayed either way - to radicalism or a non-radical life view- a stronger footing in peaceful divergence of religion.

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i, speaking as one american, am getting real tired of trying to "sway" islamics who are on the fence about whether to practice their religion peacefully or become radicals.

the islamic believers who we see everyday on the news protestring this or that arent going to be swayed. if its not this pastor threatening to burn the koran (which is justified to be angry about but its a bit funny and hypocritical for them to react with violence and threats of violence and burning the american flag to achieve their "quest" for peace), there will just be some other thing that they are mad about.

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[quote=over the mountain;730610]i, speaking as one american, am getting real tired of trying to "sway" islamics who are on the fence about whether to practice their religion peacefully or become radicals.

the islamic believers who we see everyday on the news protestring this or that arent going to be swayed. if its not this pastor threatening to burn the koran (which is justified to be angry about but its a bit funny and hypocritical for them to react with violence and threats of violence and burning the american flag to achieve their "quest" for peace), there will just be some other thing that they are mad about.[/quote]

I understand what you are saying OTM, and I don't mean to suggest we would sway the radical element, rather we should live up to our own ideals and in doing so, set a tone of mending fences rather then stoking fires

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

[quote=firstdown;730572]You really think he sparked all the anti-American hate? I think that was started way before 9/11 and its just another reason for them to act out. Remember when that guy did a cartoon in the paper and they flipped out then? Fu** them.[/quote]

Oh, I don't think he did, but he surely didn't help it. Basically an idiotic idea internationally hurt American interests and for what? I mean the reasoning behind it makes NO sense to me besides to spread hate.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;730622]Oh, I don't think he did, but he surely didn't help it. Basically an idiotic idea internationally hurt American interests and for what? I mean the reasoning behind it makes NO sense to me besides to spread hate.[/quote]
The only way this hurt American interest was with the people who hate us to start with and there is nothing we are going to do to change their feelings about us anyways. If some now hates us over this then they are just as dumb as the guy burning the koran and if it was not this it would be something else that ticks them off. F*** them anyways.

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

As an American this guy has the "right". It is part of what makes America great!
F R E E D O M.
It does not mean it has to be popular SEE Klan rally, Gay rights parade, Nation of Islam, etc.
In general, if we are to be guided in our ability to govern ourselves based on the "popularity" of our laws or actions with a some....nutjobs worldwide, we will cease to be America. I view that proposition as a disgrace.........
AND he apparently has gotten the attention of the people involved in building the Ground Zero Mosque? Which has cause SO much unrest Nationwide?

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

Obama press conference he stated:

President Obama says the idea that "we would burn the sacred texts of someone else's religion is contrary to what this country stands for." He said he hopes a Florida pastor "prays on it" and refrains from doing it.

Well said.

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[quote=Chico23231;730675]Obama press conference he stated:

President Obama says the idea that "we would burn the sacred texts of someone else's religion is contrary to what this country stands for." He said he hopes a Florida pastor "prays on it" and refrains from doing it.

Well said.[/quote]But it's OK to burn the sacred text of "our" religion. Ironic?

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html"]Military burns unsolicited Bibles sent to Afghanistan - CNN.com[/URL]

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

[quote=Chico23231;730675]Obama press conference he stated:

President Obama says the idea that "we would burn the sacred texts of someone else's religion is contrary to what this country stands for." He said he hopes a Florida pastor "prays on it" and refrains from doing it.

Well said.[/quote]

Agreed. I'm against Islamic extremism as much as anyone, but muslims in general are largely peaceful. To burn their texts is so effing ignorant.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;730684]But it's OK to burn the sacred text of "our" religion. Ironic?

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html"]Military burns unsolicited Bibles sent to Afghanistan - CNN.com[/URL][/quote]

I wouldn't say any of it is ok

Re: DWOC's International Burn a Koran Day
 

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;730684]But it's OK to burn the sacred text of "our" religion. Ironic?

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html"]Military burns unsolicited Bibles sent to Afghanistan - CNN.com[/URL][/quote]

Good interesting article. But the context of comparing the two pretty far off.

Back-woods ignorant redneck pastor is getting this all this press. This guy seriously thinks this is a war on Islam. Laughable of the ignorance of this country and anyone who agrees with what he is doing. Putting our military at risk, including a close friend of mine located outside of Kandahar. Maybe we need to put this guy on a plane and send him over there to preach, cause no sensible American would agree with what this guy is doing. Where is Glenn Beck to give history lessons regarding freedom of religion?